Asus/NCIX Competiton Entry - dejanh

[Pisklink]

Anyway, check it out - http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...acture=CORSAIR

Too bad, because I recently selled my old Corsair 2Gb 1800Mhz (7-7-7-20-1T @ 2.0v) modules which I used on my old P5E3-Premium board. Maybe you could have used them to reach 2000+ Mhz since they have the D9GTR IC's.

I was doing something today and all of a sudden my system went BSOD. Only change I have made recently is I went from 4.14GHz Uncore at 1.55V QPI/DRAM Voltage to 4.32GHz at 1.6V QPI/DRAM. I guess despite the tests I did something was not stable or deteriorated over a few days...lol

I guess the lesson is like I said before, you cannot be sure that this high Uncore is 100% stable.

Ok, that's clear. I didn't think of the fact that your uncore doesn't have to be 100% stable for this competition. Nonetheless, you were saying that depending on the quality of your IMC and cache that there is a possibility to run a nearly 9:9 ratio?!?

Did anyone ever try this block on their CPU? I was wondering if it is worth potentially picking this up http://swiftnets.com/products/mcw6500-T1.asp to add to my loop. Kind of a general question I guess...I doubt I'd be able to get it in time to try it out for the competition. What do you guys think?

Somebody on the dutch forum I referred to before is building a new comp. with this TEC. However he didn't finished his build yet so no results from him are yet available. I tried to look for his thread again because I'm also not sure if he's applying this TEC on an i7. I will look a bit further for you on that dutch forum.

Finally, what is this competition actually all about? What do you have to perform to win and at which place are you at the moment? What prizes are there to win?

[dejanh]

With bios 1204 the 21 multi seems to do very well. 4200 @ all cores is very cool. Im glad i stayed with the R2E........Almost got me a Bloodrage.

I hope you succeed with your price Dejanh

Yeah, it's not a bad board but it definitely has some quirks. If you have patience to work around them you can get some good results with this board. I am eyeing the EVGA Classified board as well since it is not that far in price from the R2E. I was thinking to pick it up post competition to see how it compares to the R2E. Other than the one measily Vr-Zone preview/review or whatever here http://vr-zone.com/articles/evga-x58....html?doc=6361 there is nothing concrete on it anywhere yet. I figured maybe I'd test it myself

I have to agree that the new ability to select the Turbo multiplier is nice.

[dejanh]

Too bad, because I recently selled my old Corsair 2Gb 1800Mhz (7-7-7-20-1T @ 2.0v) modules which I used on my old P5E3-Premium board. Maybe you could have used them to reach 2000+ Mhz since they have the D9GTR IC's.

Hehe, indeed. Maybe I could have used them There are some people here posting decent clocks on their memory, I think the best one so far is over 1150MHz (2300MHz effective). I have to say though that binning of the ICs makes a lot of difference too. Just because they are D9FGTRs or HCF0s does not mean that they will be clock good. If they are poorely binned then they will be nothing special.

Ok, that's clear. I didn't think of the fact that your uncore doesn't have to be 100% stable for this competition. Nonetheless, you were saying that depending on the quality of your IMC and cache that there is a possibility to run a nearly 9:9 ratio?!?

It is possible to run the Uncore even higher than QPI link speed but yes this will depend on the quality of your chip's IMC and cache, somewhat your motherboard, and it will definitely require voltages beyond those specified as Intel maximums for QPI Voltage (1.35V). I'd say this is not for the faint of heart lol

Somebody on the dutch forum I referred to before is building a new comp. with this TEC. However he didn't finished his build yet so no results from him are yet available. I tried to look for his thread again because I'm also not sure if he's applying this TEC on an i7. I will look a bit further for you on that dutch forum.

Finally, what is this competition actually all about? What do you have to perform to win and at which place are you at the moment? What prizes are there to win?

I'd definitely be interested in following his build. If you know where it is maybe you can point me to it? i7 or not it would be interesting to see what his results are...

In terms of the competition there are four areas where we compete. Check them out here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=219897

I am currently in the 1st place for highest BCLK MHz. The last prize is a monitor awarded to the thread with the most replies so we will see who gets that one (hint, hint, keep posting hehe ). Things are pretty close still I'd say.

Edit: it would appear that the current highest memory OC is 1184MHz (2368MHz effective). Pretty darn high already! The guy seems to be hitting the same Uncore wall that I was hitting. Even 1MHz higher in his tests results in instant lock-ups or BSODs. I think I really need to do some comparison runs between this board and the new EVGA Classified to see if this is CPU related or board related.

[dejanh]

I've been searching for their X v2.0 kits but they're no where to be found, I only found a japanese page that sells them.

I would definately go for the Elpida chips, I've tried the HCF0 with "old" Patriot Viper 2000 but they were limited to high speed (2100) with very loose timings, maybe the "new" HCF0 chips are better but I doubt it.

Yup, can't find them here either. I have no idea who would be carrying this. I think I know who would be able to special order them but it would (a) take a long time for the order to complete and (b) it would cost a lot more because it is a special order and not a regular stocked item.

If CSX is binning the HCF0 diablos as good as they binned the D9GTR's they will be great



Fugger's HCF0 im pretty sure holds frequency record for i7. HCF0 is like all other ram IC's some batches are better, and depending on how well it is binned it will OC poorly or wonderfully. Luck of the draw unless you can get a pretested kit. But to say all HCF0 are not high speed chips is misleading

That's the thing, I am not sure how well CSX is binning the HCF0 Diablos. Obviously if they are binned very well then they will be very good overclockers. However, not much info is available on Diablos that I managed to find, particularly on the new triple channel HCF0-based kits. There is more info on the older D9GTRs but I think the HCF0s would be much better if they are indeed binned very well.

Are you aware of any solid overclocking reviews of the tri-channel HCF0 Diablos? Not looking for that flaky TweakTown style review where they want to overclock but are too scared to increase the voltage to the DRAM and/or QPI.

[Pisklink]

Other than the one measily Vr-Zone preview/review or whatever here http://vr-zone.com/articles/evga-x58....html?doc=6361 there is nothing concrete on it anywhere yet. I figured maybe I'd test it myself

Damn, that board looks really sweet!!!! It has some awesome innovative features which not only look good but are handy as well. Btw VR-Zone refers to this thread for some results.

I'd definitely be interested in following his build. If you know where it is maybe you can point me to it? i7 or not it would be interesting to see what his results are...

I tried searching the dutch forum for that specific thread but couldn't find it. I will try it again later and if I find it somewhere around the worklog threads, I will surely post a link here.

[Jorlin]

Pretty cool results you achieve with your system
I would in fact be a bit afraid to fry my CPU like this... but it is all about the cooling i guess

Keep up the good work.

[Rodriguez]

If CSX is binning the HCF0 diablos as good as they binned the D9GTR's they will be great



Fugger's HCF0 im pretty sure holds frequency record for i7. HCF0 is like all other ram IC's some batches are better, and depending on how well it is binned it will OC poorly or wonderfully. Luck of the draw unless you can get a pretested kit. But to say all HCF0 are not high speed chips is misleading

What I said is that the HCF0 I tested were HIGH SPEED but loose timings, I was actually saying just the opposite of your post.

same chips used in Corsair 2GB kit 2133Mhz 9-9-9-. HCF0 are definately High Speed but I just don't like the loose timings.

[dejanh]

Damn, that board looks really sweet!!!! It has some awesome innovative features which not only look good but are handy as well. Btw VR-Zone refers to this thread for some results.

Yeah, the board does look very nice but it is pricy as hell here...$640 CAD after taxes. I got my R2E for $420. That's a big difference. I will likely pick up this board post competition and do some testing. I just have no time now. I wonder if it will provide any benefits at all over the R2E, or will it be the same old "it's just another X58 clone" story.

I tried searching the dutch forum for that specific thread but couldn't find it. I will try it again later and if I find it somewhere around the worklog threads, I will surely post a link here.

Thanks. I will check out that site too. Hopefully it is in English

[dejanh]

Pretty cool results you achieve with your system
I would in fact be a bit afraid to fry my CPU like this... but it is all about the cooling i guess

Keep up the good work.

Thanks, I do realize it takes a bit of nerves to push the chip. I always look at the temps first and if they seem okay I go more. However, I must say that there is a point where I become uncomfortable going futher too. I pushed this chip to 1.75V on the core which with load line calibration is actually more like 1.78V. That was as far as I was going to go with my cooling.

What I said is that the HCF0 I tested were HIGH SPEED but loose timings, I was actually saying just the opposite of your post.

same chips used in Corsair 2GB kit 2133Mhz 9-9-9-. HCF0 are definately High Speed but I just don't like the loose timings.

Yeah, I don't think he meant that you were saying they were not high speed in that sense. I think he was more referring to overclocking and their ability to achieve very high speeds that way. Binning of HCF0s will definitely determine whether they can go to 2200MHz or much beyond that. Just a misunderstanding I think.

[Rodriguez]

Thanks, I do realize it takes a bit of nerves to push the chip. I always look at the temps first and if they seem okay I go more. However, I must say that there is a point where I become uncomfortable going futher too. I pushed this chip to 1.75V on the core which with load line calibration is actually more like 1.78V. That was as far as I was going to go with my cooling.



Yeah, I don't think he meant that you were saying they were not high speed in that sense. I think he was more referring to overclocking and their ability to achieve very high speeds that way. Binning of HCF0s will definitely determine whether they can go to 2200MHz or much beyond that. Just a misunderstanding I think.

Yup, maybe I misunderstood

[Pisklink]

Yeah, the board does look very nice but it is pricy as hell here...$640 CAD after taxes. I got my R2E for $420. That's a big difference. I will likely pick up this board post competition and do some testing. I just have no time now. I wonder if it will provide any benefits at all over the R2E, or will it be the same old "it's just another X58 clone" story.

WOW , that's a real fortune indeed. Didn't realize it would be that expensive. You would suggest that the extra features regarding the electrical circuit would provide extra stability to the added components. However there will always be some component that's the bottleneck. A very good mobo with a bad CPU or RAM doesn't guarantee high OC's ofcourse.

Thanks. I will check out that site too. Hopefully it is in English

I'm affraid it's not, so I will take a look at it again for you.

[dMITIj]

hello again

So i got my rig to 3800Mhz and i have run some bench's on 4Ghz but i think ill stay with the 3800Mhz for now, but i got one problem and thats is i can't seem to get my memory to default settings 7,7,7:24 i can only get 9,9,9:24 any ideas?

[dejanh]

God @#$% site and it's no backup feature. Bah! I lost over 12 posts in this thread, most by other people including my BIOS and verification images. Now I have to repost them again after I manage to dig them up somewhere. I have no words to express my anger!!!!

!@##$

And this contest needs to be wrapped up, and prizes need to be awarded to the people that earned them. Not cool at all...

I know that I lost posts by Leeghoofd, HEADALA, Chicken Patty, posershadow, and at least a few other people...

[posershadow]

Man, I wish they'd wrap this contest up. Nobody is saying anything which is scary.

[dejanh]

Got to post up my BIOS screens again and my verification image. Here we go again...this is the order...bclk, max clock with ht on, max clock with ht off, dram clock, mobo verification image with name...

Edit: Bah! I can't post up my screens. The upload form is not working! Got to host externally...







Oh and by the way, here is an update from FUGGER re: contest state...

I was told to give teh contest another week and the data drive we were on failed again.

I switched back to the original SSD's and I will try to recover the data.

I will end the contest soon...snip...

[Pisklink]

What are the results of the contest? Did you win anything Dejanh or is the contest still going on? If so, what's your current position?

[dejanh]

What are the results of the contest? Did you win anything Dejanh or is the contest still going on? If so, what's your current position?

I won the monitor. You can see the results here...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=223120

Unfortunately, I did not have time/resources to pursue any further prizes. I had highest BCLK too for a while, but posershadow rightfully won that category with a very impressive > 231MHz BCLK

Good contest overall. Waiting to get my prize now. Thanks for all your support, and thanks you everyone else as well!