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Exactly how much slower? Is this using the same RAM and Motherboard? If so, I would assume its due to more cache efficiency with the 720 being divided just 3 times instead of 4 with the 955.Originally Posted by ecat
Ryzen 3800X @ 4.4Ghz
MSI X570 Unify
32GB G.Skill 3600Mhz CL14
Sapphire Nitro Vega 64
OCZ Gold 850W ZX Series
Thermaltake LV10
Hey Chew, what's the BIOS version you're using on the Gigabyte mobo?
From the screenies it looks like "T1", but the Gigabyte website only has "F1"...
The reason I'm asking is, mine with F3 is behaving stangely.
Normal v-core is listed as 0.975V and when I boot to windows the cores seem to run @ 800MHz...
Next AOD won't recognise the CPU as an AMD and won't start at all + the Gigabyte Easy Tune thingy won't start at all...
What gives?
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PhII 955BE, GA-MA790FX-UD5P, 2x2GB Firestix, HD 4870X2, 2x500GB RAID-0, Corsair 850TX
the bios is reading the pstates wrongHey Chew, what's the BIOS version you're using on the Gigabyte mobo?
From the screenies it looks like "T1", but the Gigabyte website only has "F1"...
The reason I'm asking is, mine with F3 is behaving stangely.
Normal v-core is listed as 0.975V and when I boot to windows the cores seem to run @ 800MHz...
Next AOD won't recognise the CPU as an AMD and won't start at all + the Gigabyte Easy Tune thingy won't start at all...
What gives?
On the ddr II version I was using the Test 1 bios.....only bios I ever received from gigabyte......I gave them the go ahead to release a few weeks after I reviewed it.......It would not be released as T1 however........It would be released as F for final ( and a number ) My guess is it was already released prior to me testing it.....As F1Hey Chew, what's the BIOS version you're using on the Gigabyte mobo?
From the screenies it looks like "T1", but the Gigabyte website only has "F1"...
The reason I'm asking is, mine with F3 is behaving stangely.
Normal v-core is listed as 0.975V and when I boot to windows the cores seem to run @ 800MHz...
Next AOD won't recognise the CPU as an AMD and won't start at all + the Gigabyte Easy Tune thingy won't start at all...
What gives?
On the ddr III board I used a f5d which isn't ready yet for ram clocking, I spent 3 days tweaking that ram and did not have another 3 days to spend on ram when I recieved F3L public.......all other results and LN2 results I did on F3L (public) however......
I can't leak bios's nor would you want me to.......We managed to kill an MSI and cpu on an early bios ( under extreme conditions *LN2*) ...........I managed to kill 2 hd's on a couple bios's with gigabyte right after a flash.........Never got out of bios, never made it to windows.....and almost took out a 3rd ( brand new velociraptor )
I've been using an old version of K10 stat and 2.14 AOD all along......it works so I have no reason to change.....if its not broken don't fix it..
Last edited by chew*; 04-28-2009 at 11:02 AM.
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To make me fret, or make me frown.
I had strings but now I'm free.
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Stand easy, I retract my statement. The difference I was seeing was a little less than 1 second and looks to be due to the monitoring sw I'm running
$10.00 off code at the Egg for AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
Code: AMD4231 making it 235.00
CPU: i5 2500K @4.5ghz/1.30v
CPU Cooler: Phantek
Mobo:Gigabyte P67-UD5-B3
MEM: Gskill RipjawsX @2164
PSU: Seasonic X1050
Graphics: SLI MSI gtx560 TFII/OC Edition
Monitor:27"HP 2710m x2
Drives: 2x PlextorM3 Pro 256gb SSD Raid0 /Ocz Vertex2 80gb SSD
VisionTek 120gb SSD/Kingston HyperX 240gb SSD/Verbatim 240gb SSD
Case: mod Rocketfish
OS's: Win 7x64 SP1
Mouse:Mionix Naos 5000
KB: Max Keyboard Nighthawk x8 Cherry browns w/ red leds
No go with whatever BIOS I try....
Could somebody be so nice as to post the default M.I.T. values for this CPU so I can take it from there? (MIT just says default=normal, not default=x.xxV...)
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease...??
EDIT: I just noticed that Chew's T1 BIOS actually has the same release date as the official F3 release...I wonder if there is an F4 coming soon...
EDIT2: Here's the values so far. Please, correct them in case they're wrong.
CPU Clock Ratio: x16 (3200 MHz)
CPU Northbridge Freq.: x10 (2000 MHz)
CPU Freq.: 200 MHz
PCIe Clock: 100 MHz
HT Link Freq.: x10 (2000 MHz)
Memory settings skipped
DDR 2 Voltage: 1.8 V ??? (seeing that CCR VTT is 0.9V)
SB/HT Voltage: ??? (Available settings are: Normal, +0.1, +0.2, +0.3)
NB/PCIe/PLL Voltage: ??? (Available settings are: Normal, +0.1, +0.2, +0.3)
CPU PLL Voltage: 2.5V (as given by the BIOS)
DDR VTT: 0.9V (as given by the BIOS)
NB Voltage: 1.1V (as given by the BIOS)
CPU VID: 1.35V ??? (According to Chew's screenies, though CPUZ in some cases says 1.45V...?)
Last edited by mcbalaban; 04-29-2009 at 12:29 AM.
PhII 955BE, GA-MA790FX-UD5P, 2x2GB Firestix, HD 4870X2, 2x500GB RAID-0, Corsair 850TX
Nice... for people in the US that is
Code: AMD4231 making it 235.00
didn't know where else to ask this but anyone running a
0911 week 955?
Do you know whose fault is that? CPU or motherboard/BIOS?
PhII 955BE, GA-MA790FX-UD5P, 2x2GB Firestix, HD 4870X2, 2x500GB RAID-0, Corsair 850TX
Make sure when you flash you disconect power after the flash, remove battery, and jump clear cmos...........I only trust the clr cmos button for clring my settings.....on the same bios...No go with whatever BIOS I try....
Could somebody be so nice as to post the default M.I.T. values for this CPU so I can take it from there? (MIT just says default=normal, not default=x.xxV...)
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease...??
EDIT: I just noticed that Chew's T1 BIOS actually has the same release date as the official F3 release...
EDIT2: Here's the values so far. Please, correct them in case they're wrong.
CPU Clock Ratio: x16 (3200 MHz)
CPU Northbridge Freq.: x10 (2000 MHz)
CPU Freq.: 200 MHz
PCIe Clock: 100 MHz
HT Link Freq.: x10 (2000 MHz)
Memory settings skipped
DDR 2 Voltage: 1.8 V ??? (seeing that CCR VTT is 0.9V)
SB/HT Voltage: ??? (Available settings are: Normal, +0.1, +0.2, +0.3)
NB/PCIe/PLL Voltage: ??? (Available settings are: Normal, +0.1, +0.2, +0.3)
CPU PLL Voltage: 2.5V (as given by the BIOS)
DDR VTT: 0.9V (as given by the BIOS)
NB Voltage: 1.1V (as given by the BIOS)
CPU VID: 1.35V ??? (According to Chew's screenies, though CPUZ in some cases says 1.45V...?)
F3 is most likely T1 if the release dates are the same.....
Come to think of it I now remember I had the same problem......with the shipped bios........I am going to email gigabyte and have them remove a few unsafe things and get the T1 out........please be patient not sure how soon they will get back to me........
Last edited by chew*; 04-29-2009 at 05:59 AM.
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Thanks, mate!
In the mean time, I'll keep fighting with the BIOS at hand...
I'll keep you all posted.
PhII 955BE, GA-MA790FX-UD5P, 2x2GB Firestix, HD 4870X2, 2x500GB RAID-0, Corsair 850TX
Now I'm totally puzzled...
The BIOS says 0.975V, AOD says 0.975V, but the Black Box HW monitor and OCCP say 1.35V - and it actually IS 1.35V!
Right now I'm testing stability @ 3.2GHz and the "so called" 0.975V, and so far it's looking good with the core temperature at 45 degrees.
The problem is, AOD (version 3.0) isn't displaying nearly half of the needed options, so if I do any serious overclocking, I'll have to reboot every time...
EDIT: Seems to be stable @3.6G with "1V" (1.375V according to OCCP). Temps are 49 degrees.
Last edited by mcbalaban; 04-29-2009 at 07:37 AM.
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Chew. Are you able to get the 790x version of the board to test? I would like someone like you to test that board and get bios updates for it.
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Asus Maximus VI Hero Z87.
2x8g G-Skill Ripjawz DDR3-2133.
Powercolor AMD HD7950 boost.
Creative R3C0N 3D.
OCZ Fatality 1000w modular.
Sandisk Extreme 256g SSD.
OCZ Vertex 60gb SSD.
Samsung 1TB F3.
Corsair Carbide 300r.
Phanteks PH-TC14PE.
I dunno, best bet would be sending an email to gigabyte requesting this....
I personally don't like asking for stuff........If they send it to me on there own accord fine but I rarely ask for anything.
Case in point I needed a usable with dual slot vidcards 4X PCI X slot board...I purchased it ( MSI 790FX-GD70 ) even though it really isn't in my budget.
heatware chew*
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To make me fret, or make me frown.
I had strings but now I'm free.
There are no strings on me
Dang I just ordered the 790x and I am worrying about how it is going to OC my sig rig.
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Intel Core I5 4670K haswell.
Asus Maximus VI Hero Z87.
2x8g G-Skill Ripjawz DDR3-2133.
Powercolor AMD HD7950 boost.
Creative R3C0N 3D.
OCZ Fatality 1000w modular.
Sandisk Extreme 256g SSD.
OCZ Vertex 60gb SSD.
Samsung 1TB F3.
Corsair Carbide 300r.
Phanteks PH-TC14PE.
Well try emailing them, worst they can say is no. Be happy to test it for you guys and help get it up to speed......
heatware chew*
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To make me fret, or make me frown.
I had strings but now I'm free.
There are no strings on me
Emailed them. I didnt know your name so I just put chew*
Dragon Fighter
Intel Core I5 4670K haswell.
Asus Maximus VI Hero Z87.
2x8g G-Skill Ripjawz DDR3-2133.
Powercolor AMD HD7950 boost.
Creative R3C0N 3D.
OCZ Fatality 1000w modular.
Sandisk Extreme 256g SSD.
OCZ Vertex 60gb SSD.
Samsung 1TB F3.
Corsair Carbide 300r.
Phanteks PH-TC14PE.
If the 790x board I ordered is a huge pos then I am going to get the 790fx version of it.
Sorry for the double post.
Dragon Fighter
Intel Core I5 4670K haswell.
Asus Maximus VI Hero Z87.
2x8g G-Skill Ripjawz DDR3-2133.
Powercolor AMD HD7950 boost.
Creative R3C0N 3D.
OCZ Fatality 1000w modular.
Sandisk Extreme 256g SSD.
OCZ Vertex 60gb SSD.
Samsung 1TB F3.
Corsair Carbide 300r.
Phanteks PH-TC14PE.
I tend to find the boards with less gimmicks, and less onboard stuff tend to cooperate better and get better results upon release......The more "crap" ( for lack of a better word ) that is onboard means more coding and the potential for more conflicts......
Would love to see a company put out a stripped 8 layer board with really well implemented and beefy PWM's but unfortunately it's a niche market......not realistic in terms of cost versus sales.
I think RD 580 reference was one of the few that fell into that category.
Last edited by chew*; 04-29-2009 at 12:20 PM.
heatware chew*
I've got no strings to hold me down.
To make me fret, or make me frown.
I had strings but now I'm free.
There are no strings on me
Well the 790x doesnt have any gimmiks IIRC. Its just a straight forward board. Hopefully it isnt a POS.
Dragon Fighter
Intel Core I5 4670K haswell.
Asus Maximus VI Hero Z87.
2x8g G-Skill Ripjawz DDR3-2133.
Powercolor AMD HD7950 boost.
Creative R3C0N 3D.
OCZ Fatality 1000w modular.
Sandisk Extreme 256g SSD.
OCZ Vertex 60gb SSD.
Samsung 1TB F3.
Corsair Carbide 300r.
Phanteks PH-TC14PE.
Random observation: Virtualization with Hyper-V is excellent with the Phenom II processors. I ran Cinebench R10 both native and on a virtualized OS running on top of Hyper-V Server 2008. The scores were identical.
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mobo BIOS my chip did the same thing until BIOS1001 on my M4A78T-E and a later BIOS on my crosshair II both read pstates wrong and set the chip to 800mhz .975v
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