You can buy these on newegg now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...n=4770&x=0&y=0
You can buy these on newegg now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...n=4770&x=0&y=0
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I wish they hadn't junked the better looking better performing stock cooler AND raised the price $10 which is 10% for this segment.
If it goes down after release or a little later that won't be bad but it's gonna be butting heads with 4830/4850 a little on price at this point.
God those coolers look hideous to me....do they even have ram cooling on? or mosfet cooling?
What's the deal with the coolers anyway? Is this just the first batch that AMD wanted to get out the door? I've seen other pics with much better looking hardware on there.
The price increase is likely Newegg's typical +$10 on release markup
No paper launch. Initial batch will be with these coolers-Originally Posted by oohms
I can't wait for these cards
Already figured out a voltmod (the controller looks VERY moddable
I'm just hoping this won't be a paper launch, and that they sell the reference design with the reference sink here. Shame about the mounting holes though.
Suppose to have a $20MIR once AIBs get their own designs out.
Yep.
Other than the other cooler exhausting air out the back of the case what is so good about it? We don't know how it performs.
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Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
NewEgg's marked up price does make the cards value suck. They have a 4830 for $86 and a 4850 for $119
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
There was a link to a thread with pictures from a guy who got the old heat sink. You could just tell. Sad thing is the white outline for the better cooler is still on the pcb
It IS efficient for THEM (mm^2). It WILL be efficent for us later on. (4750 + DDR3 // Mobility Radeon 4830).
The GPUs themselve use less power than ever. (though the Furmark load test conducted by Expreview that power usage doesn't overflow TDP this time round) It's just that they're unfortunately saddled with standard-voltaged GDDR5 (easily overclockable back to spec 1250Mhz) instead of nVidia's favorite high speed GDDR3.
But fine, since you consider having 9600M GT (9500/8600GT) performance the pinnacle of what a notebook can have and no further improvments are needed, so RV740 is pointless.
You seem to have big issues with ATI making new chips for predominantly different (OEM, Mobile) markets with desktop as a secondary target while having literally zero issues with nVidia making new, overlapping SKUs. Whatever, your personal vendettas are up to you.
p/s: I don't agree that the 4770 is the perfect chip especially with current market conditions or the pricing on it. I don't like the fact that the stupid GDDR5 memory controller retrain/flicker issue still persists. But at least ATI is doing something instead of just shipping their restickered SKUs to reviewers ASAP before launch day so they can get hits. Ultimately it's still up to the product itself.
Last edited by Macadamia; 04-27-2009 at 07:55 PM.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-ra...d-4770-review/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...r5-review.html
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18202
http://hothardware.com/Articles/ATI-...4770-40nm-GPU/
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=826
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=700
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4770/
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/d...on-hd4770.html
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha.../hd4770launch/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...4770,2281.html
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...00-GT/Reviews/
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=295&Itemid=72
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2346048,00.asp
Last edited by onethreehill; 04-27-2009 at 09:09 PM.
Looks like a lot of site got the old cooler. Hope for us yet, or is ATI merely pulling an Nvidia with launch samples?
It looks like 99.9% of the people who got official ATI samples received slightly different cards from what will be available at launch and thereafter.
Radeon HD4770 Crossfire VS. HD4890
http://www.expreview.com/review/2009...9d12291_3.html
...
Very nice!
Boo ATI, they actually had the guts to pull this
Probably explains why the samples are delayed, the cooler probably wasn't punctual- not that OEMs are gonna use it anyway if it costs more now and it (possibly) sucks more.
Is it worth it selling my 4850 for one of these? Or should I just keep it?
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From TPU:
We asked AMD to clarify why there was a discrepancy between our cooler and the one we saw on the leaked images and it seems that AIBs were given a choice which cooler to use. All AIBs went for the cheaper one, so initially there will be no HD 4770s on store shelves that use the same cooler as our review sample.damnThe HD 4770 supports CrossFire configurations with two cards. I did confirm with AMD that there is no support for CrossFire triple or quad. It wouldn't make sense on such a product anyway.
Q9550 || DFI P45 Jr || 4x 2G generic ram || 4870X2 || Aerocool M40 case || 3TB storage
Funny how the cheaper one also seems to cool a good bit better...
10W shaved with 800 -> 450.
OMG, i think i'm going to have a baby! I'm a man btw. Those crossfire results is looking GOOD! I'm so getting two of these!
Onetreehill: Your the man! Thanks for all the info & links every 3 seconds
Looks like we are comparing a HD4770 to a 260-216 now
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That makes me sad. I had high hopes for CFX HD4770 benching @ 1+ GHz
i expected better core clocks too -.-That makes me sad. I had high hopes for CFX HD4770 benching @ 1+ GHz
The final overclocks of our card are 825 MHz core (10% overclock) and 1120 MHz Memory (38% overclock). ... The actual 3D performance gained is 16.8%.
on stock cooler
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4770/31.html
Weaker performance with the 'big' cooler probably has something to do with the smaller, slow spinning fan. At the same time the 'big' cooler also has that giant ramsink and should get better avg. memory overclocks. Maybe board partners will be able to offer the "small" cooler with a better memory cooling implementation?
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