Intel guilty in EU for manipulating the market against AMD?

**duploxxx** · 04-23-2009, 06:46 AM

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...TfXKI&refer=uk

first the Danish government now the EU with much higher fees, not so sure if Intel will have a positive revenue this year......

what will be the influence on the US lawsuit?

**v0dka** · 04-23-2009, 06:53 AM

I think every decision that forces the big players to rethink their cartel like strategies is a good one.

For anyone who doubts wheter Intel really did something wrong, it is no coincidence that Intel is getting in trouble at multiple places. I think the influence on the American case is definately there, but indirectly at best. The case in the US is conerning actions in the US, I presume. The EU and Korea handle their own jurisdiction.

**Mechromancer** · 04-23-2009, 07:26 AM

I really hate that the x86 CPU industry is a pure Oligopoly. It is the definition of the term. Barriers to entry are so high, they're Intel-high (thats high!).

**perkam** · 04-23-2009, 07:47 AM

Please remove the "land" from the title.

EU isn't an island, it is an entire continent.

Hopefully this accountability can come stateside after the free pass corporations have been getting lately.

Perkam

**madcho** · 04-23-2009, 07:53 AM

+1 perkam

**Neuuubeh** · 04-23-2009, 07:58 AM

I do think its totally correct to use "EU land". Land doesnt automatically mean "island". Or "country" or stuff like that. EU land would mean just a piece of land (opposite to sea/ocean?) that territorially belongs to the EU :p. Dunno, sounds fine to me

**Donnie27** · 04-23-2009, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by perkam

Please remove the "land" from the title.

EU isn't an island, it is an entire continent.

Hopefully this accountability can come stateside after the free pass corporations have been getting lately.

Perkam

I just hope ALL rebates become illegal

**lockee** · 04-23-2009, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by duploxxx

what will be the influence on the US lawsuit?

It probably puts some extra pressure on US regulators to put an end to what's been going on. But at the end of the day what happens in the US will be decided by who knows who and what favor they decide to call in. The rule of law is flexible these days, provided you have enough money.

**003** · 04-23-2009, 09:03 AM

What intel did back in the K8 era was wrong... now they are doing nothing wrong.

**jmke** · 04-23-2009, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Neuuubeh

I do think its totally correct to use "EU land". Land doesnt automatically mean "island". Or "country" or stuff like that. EU land would mean just a piece of land (opposite to sea/ocean?) that territorially belongs to the EU :p. Dunno, sounds fine to me

yup, it's perfectly ok to use

**Hornet331** · 04-23-2009, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by perkam

EU isn't an island, it is an entire continent.

Nah its not continent.. Europe =! EU

**Starscream** · 04-23-2009, 09:29 AM

it actualy isnt ok.

Not all of Europe belongs to the EU. The EU is a grp of countrys that are working together in some areas.

In some ways im happy that the EU is taking care of this. mostly cause the EU is known for proper punishment of corporations that break the law.

Im afraid that in other areas of the world where Intel is facing the same charges they will get away with a slap on the wrist.

**Donnie27** · 04-23-2009, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Hornet331

Nah its not continent.. Europe =! EU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia

Eurasia is a large landmass covering about 53,990,000 km² or about 10.6% of the Earth's surface (36.2% of the land area). Often considered a single continent, Eurasia comprises the traditional continents of Europe and Asia (and Eurasia is a portmanteau of the two).

Just depends on who you talk to.

Either way, this is the wrong time to be trying to squeeze large corporations for Back Door tax increases

This does NOTHING but drives up costs for the EU consumers because Intel will simply pass on any fine/s to folks buying their products. Unlike the EU, the Koreans aren't stupid enough to try and pull something like that, hince 25 million dollar fine, Intel does away with rebates there. Yes, it will help AMD as well as they'll finally be able to do in courts, something they couldn't do in the Boardroom, raise prices and or get higher ASP's

Meanwhile, the same old scam of rebate companies ripping off Consumers while paying off not only the US, but the EU as well, will continue

Yes, rebate companies split taxes with the respective governments.

225 euros with 100 euro Rebate, yet you still pay the 10% vat on 225. 22.50 when the tax should have been 10 euros. Who gets the 12.50?

Only some highly delusional or drunk think those folks running the EU are completely honest. One thread you guys say they are, on the thread about TPB, that judge isn't LOL! Talking about having your cake and eating too

**Manicdan** · 04-23-2009, 09:51 AM

im more interested in what intel did, and not the definition of EU

**~~DoubleZero~~** · 04-23-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Donnie27

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia

Eurasia is a large landmass covering about 53,990,000 km² or about 10.6% of the Earth's surface (36.2% of the land area). Often considered a single continent, Eurasia comprises the traditional continents of Europe and Asia (and Eurasia is a portmanteau of the two).

Just depends on who you talk to.

Either way, this is the wrong time to be trying to squeeze large corporations for Back Door tax increases

This does NOTHING but drives up costs for the EU consumers because Intel will simply pass on any fine/s to folks buying their products. Unlike the EU, the Koreans aren't stupid enough to try and pull something like that, hince 25 million dollar fine, Intel does away with rebates there. Yes, it will help AMD as well as they'll finally be able to do in courts, something they couldn't do in the Boardroom, raise prices and or get higher ASP's

Meanwhile, the same old scam of rebate companies ripping off Consumers while paying off not only the US, but the EU as well, will continue

Yes, rebate companies split taxes with the respective governments.

225 euros with 100 euro Rebate, yet you still pay the 10% vat on 225. 22.50 when the tax should have been 10 euros. Who gets the 12.50?

Only some highly delusional or drunk think those folks running the EU are completely honest. One thread you guys say they are, on the thread about TPB, that judge isn't LOL! Talking about having your cake and eating too

Your complete lack of knowledge on everything that you talk about is a gift that keeps on giving. This is from start to end a perfectly absurd post, congrats.

**Donnie27** · 04-23-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by DoubleZero

Your complete lack of knowledge on everything that you talk about is a gift that keeps on giving. This is from start to end a perfectly absurd post, congrats.

Your complete lack of knowledge on everything that you talk about is a gift that keeps on giving. This is from start to end a perfectly absurd post, congrats!

**stangracin2** · 04-23-2009, 11:35 AM

could a mod please clean this up

**Bo_Fox** · 04-23-2009, 11:39 AM

Well, Perkam started it all.. he should've just let the OP look dumb with the title! (just kidding with ya, Perkam)

**Star_Hunter** · 04-23-2009, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by 003

What intel did back in the K8 era was wrong... now they are doing nothing wrong.

Yet AMD is still paying the price for not having that $ available for all those years resulting in their current situation (although bad decisions on their part played an equal role).

**~~ILikeCosmosS~~** · 04-23-2009, 02:35 PM