Quote Originally Posted by Jokester_wild View Post
I think the majority of the problems comes from peoples incompetence in installing.
at first i thought that too.

til i started warping my cards, and then Cyberdruid shorted his cards, and then theres countless threads of people who shorted or warp there cards.

So unless your calling me and cyberdruid and a few other vets incompetient in fc installing, no... FC cards without standoffs are just flawed in general.

Quote Originally Posted by zlojack View Post
Don't the EKs come with plastic standoffs?
They do, but they give people like shazza and seeker issues in getting them setup correct, and i call that a failed standoff as well.