"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[YMAA]

It is an E0. Now, I am running BIOS 1702 but instead of the stock Asus BIOSes I'm using a modded BIOS from Ket, got them from here.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ght=modded+p5q

My GTLrefs are set to .63 and .67, NB GTL at 6.3, VTT at 1.26v and vNB at 1.30v. PLL is at 1.5v.
RAM settings are going to vary as I'm running 4GB of Mushkin, but I have Static Read Control disabled, DRAM Read Training and OC Charger are set to Auto.
Common Performance Level is set to 10, doesn't want to POST with it lower than that above 500FSB.
All Pull-ins disabled, all clock skews set to Auto.

Keep in mind that I'm on water so my vCore requirement is already a little lower. Wolfdales don't seem to respond to GTL tweaking until much higher speeds so you can pretty much leave them alone.

My advice is to find a CPU speed you want, then try to match the RAM to it. I have Mushkin Ascent 1066 RAM but I run them at 1000 for the time being because 4.25GHz is a happy CPU speed at the moment. Running lower speeds can often help you run tighter timings, which can also help with speed. I'm not familiar with Dominators, so I can't really help you there.

Good luck!

[CoY_82]

thanks bro! my dominators doesnt want timings that are too tight, however, they do run up to 1200+ without further tweaking and high vdimm... tested to be stable at 2.1~2.2vdimm for ddr1200 5-5-5-15 2t with all other subtimings set at auto...

update:
prime95 blend just failed 2hrs 22mins... i guess i'll have to up the vnb and check if the length of time before an error is detected will be longer than 2hrs 22mins...

settings as follows: 1.337ish vcore 1.32 idle 1.328 load llc enabled, 8.5x500, strap 333 1:1 ddr 1001, vnb 1.3, fsb term 1.3, pll 1.52, vdimm 2.1 all others in auto...

@leeghoofd

thanks for the tips, hope i'd be able to run it around 8.5x500 with the 5:6 strap with ddr1200 =)

[nigelke]

Where do you live mate ?

Belguim

[Leeghoofd]

Belguim

I knew that :p, where exactly ?

[nigelke]

I knew that :p, where exactly ?

oost-vlaanderen Zulte

also if i switch the bios chips on the motherboard whats the worst thing that could happen?

[Leeghoofd]

That you loose ya current settings, that's all mate, my last board had 0803 on the 2nd chip which was one of my fav biosses for this board. You are living nearby then (30mins drive)

[nigelke]

That you loose ya current settings, that's all mate, my last board had 0803 on the 2nd chip which was one of my fav biosses for this board. You are living nearby then (30mins drive)

oh thats all i can live with that, after all these bootlocks an cmos clearen i am getting used to the fact that i have to redo everything

Hmm yeah thats close indeed

[xaver]

anyone tried 2001 bios?
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...ELUXE-2001.zip

[nigelke]

another bios O.o
P5Q Deluxe BIOS 2001
Fix system may get unstable when enable "power saving mode" in EPU-6 by using certain CPUs.

intresting ^^

O and the bios swap went perfectly now i need to test if i can overclock again

[Leeghoofd]

don't flash immediately Nigel !! use the old bios for that

[nigelke]

don't flash immediately Nigel !! use the old bios for that

i aint flashing
the one i have is working at the moment
and before i change annything i wil show it here because i do not want another bios corupt.

[jdmR]

finally after so many different settings! i stuck with 1406, its been stable for about 5 hours now, will continue but i think its stable :]

[Big Lar]

@jdmR, Nice job. 1406 is a keeper for sure, 0803 was decent as well too.

Larry

[Dark-Energy]

I think I've posted my issue many many times over the past 2-3 months (even made a topic) and I haven't really gotten any further than where I was before. I have a P5Q Pro (I know it's a deluxe thread) with an E8400, G.Skill DRR2-1000 memory and 4850. I've been experiencing the weirdest kind of phenomenons with this board, more than I've ever experienced myself. This board is extremely frustrating. My goal is to hit 450FSB, so I can achieve a nice mild 4GHZ for 24/7, but I just can't get there no matter what. I've found that symptoms occur more often, which scale only when the FSB is increased. Ram speeds and timings don't change a thing, and the issues still occur when bringing the multi down to 6x to rule out the CPU. I have also ran Prime 95 on all 3 stress settings for 1-2 hours with no errors. In fact, I have never gotten any errors once before. The actual components aren't having any trouble, but something else is. For instance, Increasing stuff like VTT and NB will help the symptoms fade, but doesn't get rid of them. I've tinkered with all of the settings and tried different combinations, and even kets bios, older bioses, and this new 2002 bios.

Anyways, the symptoms range from Random Bsods, restarts, lockups, and soft crashes to desktop. But no errors in Prime 95 and memtest, weird? The higher FSB, the more gradually they happen. When I play TF2 and CSS, when it shows the packet loss and choke by typing in net_graph 3, I get a choke of about 50-70. Backing off the FSB to 400 was the only thing that did anything, but I was still getting about 30-40. At stock speeds, there's no choke. So the network card can't handle the packets?

To give you a visual problem of when this happens, 450 fsb looks like this no matter what voltages I use http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6581/wtfn.png

And at 430 everything returns to normal, but I still will get lockups and on the rare occasion, programs that fail. It could be the PSU, or maybe a failing HDD, but I don't know for sure. I was told that the clock skews are most likely the problem, but Auto/normal/100-500 does nothing, so there must be some setting that is being increased linear to the FSB, and I have not found it yet. Could any of you possibly know at all what could be causing this? I just wish this were a simple problem with stress test errors and it just being a matter of tinkering with voltages, but I guess it's not It could just be a messed up board that's been causing me grief this whole time, and I really don't want to RMA as I could just put it in my old case with an E4400, and buy a UD3P, as I heard it was really good, but money is kinda tight, so I thought I should just give it one last shot. Thanks.

[YMAA]

Have you tried increasing southbridge voltage? What happens if you set it to 451 or 449FSB? What power supply are you using?

[Dark-Energy]

I've been using Auto/1.2 usually so I tried increasing it to 1.3 and 1.4, did nothing. I then tried 449FSB and couldn't get into vista but 444 I was able to, but really, really unstable, CCC errored on startup and the bootup sound was off. My mouse was also at the top left side of the screen when it got to the desktop (vs being in the center as always).

Arg!

Edit: Oh I also have an the OCZ GameXstream 600 watt BTW, sorry I forgot to say that

[jdmR]

as for your choke, how are your rates set?

[Dark-Energy]

I don't know, I think it's cl_cmdrate and updaterate 66 or 100 or something, and i think rate is 30000, but regardless of that it only happens above 400 fsb which I find is really odd.

[Aquai]

Don't know if anyone can please help me but see my thread;

Asus P5Q Problem

[Dark-Energy]

Nevermind, i'm just gonna fork out $150 on a UD3P instead cause I can always just put the P5Q in my older system with an E4400. I actually wanted to get a UD3R or P but I had problems with past Gigabyte boards so I choose not to cause of that. I should've read some reviews before anything. Guess ignorance can cost money sometimes

[jdmR]

a little update on mine. passed 8 hours of prime blend on the same settings. ran ibt on max stress and failed instantly. used 1/2 stress and it passed 10 loops. dunno whats up

[Leeghoofd]

IBT is more cpu based then prime blend... if the CPU surivives eg 2 hours of Prime Custom test (20 -20K) then you are fine... IBT stresses far too hard then any day to day app... if you want to increase Vcore be my guest... just try the setup with ya daily applications... if you get crashes, tweak the CPU GTL's and Vcore...

[jdmR]

no crashes at all. screw it im declaring stable. lmao

[Leeghoofd]

That's the spirit ! I see no point in tweaking any further if you don't have any issue at all with ya daily apps... my rigs usually are on 24/7 and when I'm not on it they fold at 100% ( CPU and GPU at 70%) haven't had any bad WU's yet... yet IBT tends to cap out sometimes...

[lexus232]

hi! Need help in ocing my e8400 to 8.5x500. Im using this settings:


It passes 1h hour Orthos Blend, 1h Orthos Small ffts, 1h OCCT and 15 linx rounds. Seems like everything is good, but in games, like GTA4, system crashes sometimes - voice freezing and picture distorting, only reset helps in this situation. I think the issue is coming from NB or FSB, but i dont know what to do. I dont want to rise my vNB anymore because its already too high. What you guys can advice?
p.s. im using 1805 bios.