Just zeroing out the drive doesn't work IMO. I tried KillDisk and DBAN. And did 2 zeroes and both did not help. The only thing that worked was HDDerase which AFAIK doesn't zero out since it takes a few seconds to complete.Originally Posted by audienceofone
Well, all I know is that Intel SSD Engineers state: "The Intel SSD datasheet claims 5 years minimum useful life and what they mean is regardless of your usage, your drive will function for the full duration. You might get far more than 5 years if you aren’t quite so rough with it."
So this business about hurting the SSD drive, I don't think they are as sensitive as people are saying they are. At least not the intels.
I'm not worried about the longterm life of the drive. My reasoning is that once I'm finished benchmarking etc I'll have it set up with less writes than any average user, and there will be something better along in a couple of years. I expect that defrag tools will catch up reasonably quickly on SSD and we'll have tools inside Windows to reclaim lost performance. A second 60GB drive will be added soonish,
The drive does what it's supposed to though, it's fast and silent.
In the HDDErase read me it states "Secure erase overwrites all user data areas with binary zeroes" It also says it can take hours on a HDD, but with SDD as you say it takes seconds.
Last edited by Ao1; 03-15-2009 at 09:13 AM. Reason: HDDerase read me attached
Agreed, a storm in a tea cup. Same thing with degradation, but I think it was necessary to look into it to put statements being made about Intel drives being crippled into context. It's somewhat ironic that it has transpired that it's the same issue with the Vertex.
Last edited by Ao1; 03-15-2009 at 09:10 AM.
It takes like 20+ minutes to do it with any other program which doesn't make sense.
No! LolSo no need to lend you my Intel crutches?
Was just trying to balance out the thread as it became a bit too anti Vertex from Intel users, of course I know the X25's are good drives.
No! Lol
Was just trying to balance out the thread as it became a bit too anti Vertex from Intel users, of course I know the X25's are good drives.
I'm not anti Vertex. I was hacked off with OCZ for the Core and the way they handled it. IMO I was a beta tester for a miss-marketed product and I was not going to trust them again anytime soon after that. Fair play they gave me my money back but I invested a lot of time in it, which for me is more precious than money.
Just my opinion....the Vertex seems to be a very good drive, maybe a little rough round the edges and maybe not a true mainstream product quite yet, but plenty good enough for anyone willing to give it a shot.
Last edited by Ao1; 03-15-2009 at 01:03 PM.
Fair comment. They seem to be going great for me. There also should be another firmware update in 2 or 3 weeks also!
Just my opinion....the Vertex seems to be a very good drive, maybe a little rough round the edges and maybe not a true mainstream product quite yet, but plenty good enough for anyone willing to give it a shot.
For anyone who wants to know! I finally found a decent method to defrag and or restore after new FW update ( Had problems with HDDErase and drive snapshot!)
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=53080
^^^^ Nice post on OCZ. I use Windows image backup...have you tried it? It's one of my favourite features in Windows, but it's only available in Ultimate versions. It takes 10 minutes to create the image and about the same to reinstall. It also compresses' quite well down to about 2/3rds of the data size.
No I haven't, I'm using XP Pro! I guess this feature will be available in windows 7 as well?
I think I will be doing a general upgrade when windows 7 is out, and considering the way SSD's are evolving, possibly a new SSD on the new SATA 3.0 standard, might get an AMD rig who knows?
So my girlfriend might be inheriting my Vertex's for Christmas Lol!
"But then again, do I REALLY need to upgrade?"
DBAN hasn't worked with single pass zeros? Sucks. I like that app. Always use it when selling my used HDDs.
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Yes, windows image is available on Win 7
a year from now, we buy so much faster drives that will drive the shift to get faster as the ssd progress.
I dont worry about limited writes, as the most is read anyhow.
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Is raid0 with 3 drives worth it on a rampage2 extreme or should i just stick with one?
I just received my 3 x vertex 60GB and tomorrow i will receive the adaptec raid card then i will post hdtund , hdtach and atto result
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ICH10R is capped at 660MB/s. So 3 drives will do just fine.
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Depends on what you're going for. Your app load times generally will not be much different between 1-1000 SSD's in your system. As apps don't depend a whole lot on huge throughput (depending on the app), which is all you would gain by adding more drives. If you're wanting 3 for the size, it would be cheaper and you'd get the same performance by getting 1 Vertex for OS, then "cheaper" drives for storage.
ICH10R numbers sure do look good with raid0!
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Last edited by Rhys; 04-23-2009 at 12:57 PM.
Nice benchies!
Is there anything special to do with these drives upon install? special tweaks etc.....?
i was thinking of picking 2 30GB models to use in raid 0 for a boot drive
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I aligned my vertex's before install as I'm on XP. You won't need to do any of the tweaks that people do with the Core or Apex, but some tweaks will assist or prolong the drive even more and are optional.
im not sure what you mean by "aligned"
im using XP also, is there anything you needed to do for XP to see them before you installed the OS? did you have to F6 install 3rd party raid controller etc..
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http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...99&postcount=2
This is what he is referring to. This is the easiest way to understand how to do it.
And if you want to know more about it then read this
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=48309
The 2nd link is rather overwhelming though.
so if we do a windows 7 64 install or a vista 64 install the alignment will be automatic?
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