C2D E8700 is here

[Leeghoofd]

I hope they release this CPU soon, so E8600 prices will drop...

[Rob94hawk]

What ever happened to this?!!? I was really hoping intel would produce this cpu.

[Kabauterman]

there would be no E8700 CPU!

It makes no sense to für intel to produce a new (Mid/High-End) DualCore CPU because AMD makes Quads for the same prices.
So I think Intel will works hard on i7 and i5 but Core 2 Duo are on its end...

[shoehorned]

It's not about pricing, but the extra half multiplier that can make all the difference to breaking the 7ghz wall. When has any intel extreme processors made any sense in terms of pricing?

[Rob94hawk]

there would be no E8700 CPU!

It makes no sense to für intel to produce a new (Mid/High-End) DualCore CPU because AMD makes Quads for the same prices.
So I think Intel will works hard on i7 and i5 but Core 2 Duo are on its end...

I beg to differ. Yes the i7 is new and better but that doesn't mean I'm going to shell out another $1000+ for a new system when my socket 775 system is only a year old. It would be more cost efficient to upgrade the cpu and gpu in the long run. Plus intel would make more money if they actually made a cpu that doesn't suck and is overpriced like the QX9770.

[Viss]

It's not about pricing, but the extra half multiplier that can make all the difference to breaking the 7ghz wall. When has any intel extreme processors made any sense in terms of pricing?

Its not multi thats holding E86 from reaching 7ghz.

[Leeghoofd]

We got plenty of CPU's to fullfill all the needs required for high end S775 rigs... why add one more ? focus is on I5 now... and QX9770 doesn't suck mate, it's a nice CPU with unlocked multi, if you got the cooling to tame it... think your reasoning needs some tinkering... do you really think they only make big bucks out of the extreme cpu's ? Also even if they bring out E8700, most users will still buy the E85 and E8600 CPU's as they are better priced and as Loc.o pointed out will clock as good and surely as high...

Good luck Loc.o at the Giga contest mate

[Movieman]

I talked to a guy yesterday that is "in the know" and according to him he had heard discussion of a E8700 but it is not on the Intel roadmap at this time.

[Vozer]

I talked to a guy yesterday that is "in the know" and according to him he had heard discussion of a E8700 but it is not on the Intel roadmap at this time.

Could I ask you one more question, Movieman? Did he say anything about the Q7500?

[Movieman]

Could I ask you one more question, Movieman? Did he say anything about the Q7500?

I didn't ask to be honest, just asked on the E8700..

[tool_462]

There are *a few* Q7500 chips floating around. They don't recognize as Q7500, but they do have 2MB cache and a 13x multi (One had a 11.5x for some reason) but I am currently unemployed so they were not bought when they should have been

[gojirasan]

I have an E8400 and an E8600. The E8400 clocks significantly higher. So I'm not so sure about this "binning" that Intel is supposedly doing for the higher rated SKUs. After all the only binning they need to be doing is down at the 3Ghz end of things. Up at 4Ghz+ that may not count for much. It certainly hasn't in my case. In my case the 3.33Ghz rating didn't buy me anything at all compared to 3Ghz, and it's not hard to imagine why. An E8700 would just be a waste of money IMHO.

[RPGWiZaRD]

I have an E8400 and an E8600. The E8400 clocks significantly higher. So I'm not so sure about this "binning" that Intel is supposedly doing for the higher rated SKUs. After all the only binning they need to be doing is down at the 3Ghz end of things. Up at 4Ghz+ that may not count for much. It certainly hasn't in my case. In my case the 3.33Ghz rating didn't buy me anything at all compared to 3Ghz, and it's not hard to imagine why. An E8700 would just be a waste of money IMHO.

Well of course every samples are different, some E8400 might be better than some E8600 BUT the only proper way to compare is by comparing the average overclock results of bunch of E8400, E8500, E8600 etc so we can get some average overclock results. Take 100 E8400 vs 100 E8600, I'm pretty sure E8600 will give higher average overclock result. Overclocking results always depend heavily on the sample you get.

[initialised]

I think the Quads are still too expensive, so getting a cheap, but still powerful enough Dual Core now, knowing one can upgrade to a Quad later when the prices come down, has its merits.

Why buy an E8700 over a Q9550?
E8600 = £230
Q9550 = £230
i7 920 = £240

If you want cheap and powerful you have to look lower down the range and there are still price equivalent quads:
E8200 = £130
Q8200 = £140
E8400 = £145
Q6600 = £150

Prices from Scan

Now that mainstream games (L4D, GTA-IV) are starting to respond to quad core and muti-gpu configurations are becoming more affordable and show additional gains with quads the benefit of a highly overcloccked dual core against a moderately overclocked quad are diminishing.

[zsamz_]

I have an E8400 and an E8600. The E8400 clocks significantly higher. So I'm not so sure about this "binning" that Intel is supposedly doing for the higher rated SKUs. After all the only binning they need to be doing is down at the 3Ghz end of things. Up at 4Ghz+ that may not count for much. It certainly hasn't in my case. In my case the 3.33Ghz rating didn't buy me anything at all compared to 3Ghz, and it's not hard to imagine why. An E8700 would just be a waste of money IMHO.

are you runnin you 4.6 24/7
if you not gonna run an e8700 4.7 then that be a waste
economy mode i run 4.0 24/6 i run 4.6

[mrcape]

Bring it out already. Either that or a release a new batch of e8600 that can do better than the 822a435 under ln. I bought too many of these mofos and they were all mediocre while all the euros got the damn 435s.

1366 is boring lol, I want one for work.

Edit - (I'm sure I'll be praising i7 all around as soon as I've settled my score with c2d.)

[Pedropc]

Any news of the E8700? Finally come? A greeting.

[mrcape]

I bet $20 it pops up in April. They would sell like hot cakes to all of us who aren't biting on i7.

[grimREEFER]

Expensive duals by far.

lol, so this bench is accurate for within .4 fps?
i think you're supposed to conclude it's gpu limited above an athlon x2

the corei7 920@ stock would still beat the e8600@5ghz in anything coded decently for the cpu.

[Rob94hawk]

I bet $20 it pops up in April. They would sell like hot cakes to all of us who aren't biting on i7.

Yes please. I would like a reason to replace my 6750 that doesn't like to overclock past 3.2Ghz.

I would like a 1600Mhz FSB to go with it too.

I know, wishfull thinking.

[quintus]

bump

[mrcape]

lol I gave up hope on this. Still google it once a week though. It's a boring time for OC!

[G0ldBr1ck]

lol I gave up hope on this. Still google it once a week though. It's a boring time for OC!

Get you a cheap AMD Phenom II rig, It will give you plenty of OC fun in the mean while. They are a blast to tweak on.

Just a thought so no flames please

[jaredpace]

Seems like E8600 or E8700 would be fun to clock with. I've had an E8400 at ~475-550mhz FSB, but limits by the multi don't let me go above ~4.5ghz.

I always wanted to do 450 x 10 or 460 x 10 for 24/7 use, but had to settle with 472 x 9 at around 4300mhz. An extra multi would have been great for that stupid SLI chipset, hell even an extra 1.5 - hahah.

[Vivi]

lol I gave up hope on this. Still google it once a week though. It's a boring time for OC!

not for me , my E8600 is probly what the average E8700 would reach ahah