"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Leeghoofd]

Tweak ya NB GTL !

[PortCitySlim]

Tweak ya NB GTL !

Thanks, what is a good range to try for 1.34-1.40v NB? I think my board might be damaged or dying, nothing I can do to get OCCT RAM test to pass above 460FSB. I have revision A2 board and am thinking about getting a new one hopefully revision A3 or getting a UD3P but I am not sure if my cooler will fit the UD3P. My Q9650 is running 4.2ghz at 1.34vcore but my damn board won't pass the RAM/NB test, and I am pretty sure my ram is fine since it was passing before with my Q6700.

Also, does anyone know if I should be using Performance mode, I really would like to know the differences between Optimized and Performance.

[Hoss331]

I always used optimized. What settings are you using for 4.2?

[PortCitySlim]

I always used optimized. What settings are you using for 4.2?

9x467 with loadline, Small FTT stable but not OCCT RAM stable at...

CPUV: 1.34375
PLL: 1.54
CPU GTL: AUTO (Both)
RAM: 1.94
FSB/VTT: 1.36
NB: 1.40
NB GTL: AUTO
SB: AUTO

[Cloud76]

New BIOS release:

P5Q Deluxe 1805:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5Q_Deluxe/

also
P5Q-E 1901:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5Q-E/

[Martin.v.r]

Hooa nice whit new bios.

[RBS]

Changelog of 1805 -> Update the thermal diode checking rule of CPU temperature.

Have anyone tested it?

[Martin.v.r]

yes

[mozis]

Any difference between previous BIOSes (1406/1702) and this one (1805)?

After short test, i didnt notice any when switched to it from 1406 (same settings)

Temps/voltages reported by software were the same. Maybe that change is just for some specific CPUs or should be tested more in-depth.

[Martin.v.r]

low volt set to the cpu

to 3Dmark06 whit Q6700 400X10 4GHZ watercooling
BIOS 1702 VCORE 1.52
BIOS 1805 VCORE 1.47

[RBS]

That sounds good, I will test it tonight. What about temperatures with same Vcore?

[vrdublu]

Tweak ya NB GTL !

Leeghoodfd you are the man, the NB GTL was exactly what was holding me back as far as FSB overclocking was concerned. The NB is high compared to what I have seen here but it needs it. The only thing that worries me is the FSB Termination Voltage which had to be bumped up also because I was getting random reboot's. Now I find myself struggling to keep the CPU stable at 4.2 and up, haven't tried lower. I had it up to 4.35 GHZ stable at 1.35625 bios for weeks, when I up the fsb no matter what volatge I throw at it it crashes after a few minutes in Orthos or OCCT. The funny thing is I can boot into Windows at almost any voltage I want, surf the intermet and play a bit of css. Any ideas where to go from here ?? I will try to mess with the CPU GTL's but that's alot of work currently I set them at .635-.675 as a starting point. Here is the bios as we speak.

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 533
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1068
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.38125V - Have had 4.5 ghz stable at 1.35625 @ 458 fsb, can't seem to get her stable at lower clock with higherr voltage now at higher fsb
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto - Had this on .635
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto - Had this on .675
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60 - Increased performance
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30 - Had this on 1.26 for the longest time then it started crashing, changed to 1.3 and stabilized everything. Is this more for the Ram or CPU ???
DRAM Voltage: 1.92 - 2.11 Real
NB Voltage: 1.36-1.40 - Nothing below this value is stable at the given fsb. Memory an NB are completely stable under Vistas mem checker.
NB GTL Reference: .605
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance Level - Whats does this do ????

[s1Lv3r]

is 600 fsb possible with p5q dlx & e8500 E0. my 24/7 setting 446x9.5=~4.23 i want it 600x7 but which settings or not? thanx a lot

[Hoss331]

9x467 with loadline, Small FTT stable but not OCCT RAM stable at...

CPUV: 1.34375
PLL: 1.54
CPU GTL: AUTO (Both)
RAM: 1.94
FSB/VTT: 1.36
NB: 1.40
NB GTL: AUTO
SB: AUTO

Try this, on the cpu gtls try the .645 first then work up.

CPUV: 1.34375
PLL: 1.54
CPU GTL: .645 - .655 (Both)
RAM: 1.94
FSB/VTT: 1.36
NB: 1.36
NB GTL: .665

[vrdublu]

is 600 fsb possible with p5q dlx & e8500 E0. my 24/7 setting 446x9.5=~4.23 i want it 600x7 but which settings or not? thanx a lot

I would say "yes it is possible", but not without alot of trial and error. The NB and Cpu voltage and FSB term. is very picky and the slighest error on your part will hang the comp. I have a board that seems to need alot of NB volts to be stable, although I got her stable now theres something still off. I am still tweaking.

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 533
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1068
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.35625V I think this is rock solid, still testing.
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .635 Seems to be working ok right now.
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .675 Still testing with the Gtl's.
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.62 - This allowed the Cpu to breathe.
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30 - Not sure if this is this more for the Ram or CPU, but 1.30V seems to be required (atm).
DRAM Voltage: 1.92 -
NB Voltage: 1.36-1.40 - Currently 1.40V Ran the heavy duty mem checker again in Vista (4 passes), seems ok. 1.36 also seemed ok then started crashing.
NB GTL Reference: .605 - Without this I couldn't even boot into Windows at anything above 465 fsb.
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance Level - Maybe someone can enlighten me as to what this does ???

I am currently using the latest 1805 bios and found that the voltages are all over the place, either that or I need to change the batteries on my multi meter. If anyone can enlighten me on the FSB Termination voltage and CPU margin enhacement Level I would appreciate it.

[PortCitySlim]

Try this, on the cpu gtls try the .645 first then work up.

CPUV: 1.34375
PLL: 1.54
CPU GTL: .645 - .655 (Both)
RAM: 1.94
FSB/VTT: 1.36
NB: 1.36
NB GTL: .665

Thanks, I tried close to that a few days ago, I am getting my UD3P tomorrow so now it is kind of a moot point. Maybe Ill try this exact settings one more time to see for sure if my board really is jacked.

[pra]

New BIOS release:

P5Q Deluxe 1805:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5Q_Deluxe/

also
P5Q-E 1901:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5Q-E/

Hi, I have ASUS P5Q Deluxe and I have read that ASUS advice that the new Bios 1805 will fix the termal sensors of the motherboard. I have already flashed my Bios with new one but I still have a problem with my Core 3 and Core 4 on my Q9550. The promblem is: it doesn`t matter if my PC is overclocked or default all the programs which indicates the CPU temp shows that the 3rd and the 4th cores have 39C and the temp doesn`t move down.

Thank you in advance!

Pls give me advice: do I need to wait for another Bios, do I need to change my CPU or do I need to change the motherboard?

[Cloud76]

Sorry, I can't say where could be the problem...
Core 3 and 4 are fixed at 39°C, but I see strange temperatures also with cores 1 and 2; The first core show the same min and max temp of 34°C while the second core is much more fresh with a min/max of 18/23°C.
My opinion is that the BIOS is not the problem, but it's only my opinion, my perplexity is more related to the CPU, perhaps the thermal diode is malfunctioning...
Hope someone cuold give more help.

[omiez]

Sorry, I can't say where could be the problem...
Core 3 and 4 are fixed at 39°C, but I see strange temperatures also with cores 1 and 2; The first core show the same min and max temp of 34°C while the second core is much more fresh with a min/max of 18/23°C.
My opinion is that the BIOS is not the problem, but it's only my opinion, my perplexity is more related to the CPU, perhaps the thermal diode is malfunctioning...
Hope someone cuold give more help.

Just Google for "Stuck Sensors" and you will see.

[Cloud76]

Yes, the usual problem of the sensors, I knew...
It is time that Intel adjust this matter, it is since 45nm processor came out that we hear this story of the bugged sensors.

Ciao

[Martin.v.r]

Q9650 VID:1.250 L844B809 4.410ghz bios 1805

[Darkman Returns]

Martin,

Impressive clock. An improvement with BIOS 1805 indeed!

What cooling do you have there?

Phil

[Martin.v.r]

watercooling 4.6GHZ
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=517297
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10165129

ned 1 there can test the FSB volt set ned xtream volt set 1.56
voltset to the fsb
4.4GHZ volt to fsb 1.36v
4.5GHZ fsb ..........1.52v
4.6GHZ fsb ..........1.56v

[xaver]

bios 1805 seem to work great.
now i can drop vcore for one-two steps down and get rock stable 4ghz oc with max temp 1-2'c lower
still testing, but definitely 1805 is much better then 1702

cant wait for ket's mBios version.

[omiez]

I confirm that with the new Bios lower VCore.

Same Clocks as before on My Rig 1 Step Vcore Less !