UnOfficial Asus Rampage II Extreme Thread

[cstkl1]

now theres a weird issue
when i was running in my raptor x single
i couldnt use sleep mode for more than 15 mins or so..
if i try to "wake it up" will end up in no video.

only diff now using two veloci in raid 0.
sleep mode now works.
wondering if it was the intel matrix controller software

but only once
that means i can use sleep mode for a infinite time and wake it up
np.
but if do it again after that... it wont..

[christefan]

On my recently installed system, core 3 on a 920 is typically running 3-10 degrees hotter than the other three cores run, there is a variance and it's consistent watching it with RealTemp. I'm currantly running the system at 195 BLCK,Turbo On,Speed Step On, 1.39 cpu,1.33 qpi, dram at 1.65 with 6 gb of Corsair Dominator; I think everything else is on Auto--are there adjustments I should be making to try to balance the cores better? Temps are in the low 50s under an 80-90% load with dual fan air cooling;will get the water going before spring hits with higher ambient temps. Thanks for any input-stephen

[BustaH]

You either have a bad mount or a stuck sensor, nothing in your bios will correct this. try remounting the heatsink fan or waterblock which ever you are using.

Do your temps even out under load? if so, its not so much to worry about.

[crazyea]

It's typical, and not really an indication of either. don't worry about it. you can cause days of stress re-mounting, and be no better off for it.

[tomb18]

I've still got it. I've been to busy to mess with it yet, but it will be going. I can't get that RAM to OC worth a . Anything over 1604 and it just won;t run. If I take the ram out it'll OC up to 4.3GHz. Put the RAM back in even at 1704 or even 1654 and it is not stable. I've tried just about every combination of multi's and BCLCK I can and even loosed the timings down to 9-9-9-24-1T and it won't run worth a damn. It Dominates allright...it dominates at sucking really bad.

Same here....the ram won't go an inch above 1650 for me.
At corsair forums a mod says he can get up to 1900.
I find that hard to believe

[ndiego]

Hello everyone,
This is my first time overclocking my home-built PC and was wondering if someone could direct me if my below overclock is 24/7 safe. I am not going for an extreme o/c, just a healthy boost that is reliable. I have run Prime-95 for about 15 minutes and used the below settings for a week now and feels/plays stable. Temps seem to hover around mid-70's Celsius on load, and mid-40's on idle. FYI, i have added comments on the settings for which I think changes can be made:

AI overclock - manual
OC from CPU level up - auto
OC from Memory level up - auto
CPU Ratio setting - auto

CPU configuration
CPU Ratio Setting - auto
C1E Support - disable
Hardware prefetcher - enable
Adjacent Cache line prefetcher - enable
Intel Virtualization tech - disabled
CPU TM Function - disabled
Execute Disabled bit - disabled
Intel HT Technology - disabled
Active Processor Cores - all
A20M - enable
Intel Speedstep tech - disabled
Intel Turbo Mode tech - disabled
Intel C-STATE tech - disabled

BCLK frequency - 180 (based on temps, does it seem like this can go higher?)
PCIE frequency - 100
DRAM frequency - DDR3 1440MHz
UCLK frequency - 2880MHz
QPI frequency - auto

Dram timing control
1st information - Insert Timings Here in 8-8-8-24 -X-X-X
2nd information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX -X-X-X
3rd information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX-X-X-X

EPU II phase control - full phase
Load-line calibration - enable
CPU differential amplitude - Auto
Extreme OV - disabled

Current voltage
Cpu voltage - 1.4V in BIOS (1.392V in CPU-Z) [is this to high for safe 24/7?]
CPU PLL voltage - auto (does this need to be set to something besides auto?)
QPI-Dram voltage - auto (does this need to be set to something besides auto?)

IOH voltage - auto (does this need to be set to something besides auto?)
IOH PCIE voltage - auto
ICH voltage- auto (does this need to be set to something besides auto?)
ICH PCIE voltage - auto

Current voltage X.xxx v, X.xxx v, X.xxx v ,X.xxx v
DRAM Bus voltage - 1.65v
DRAM REF voltage - auto

Debug mode - string
Keyboard TweakIt control - disabled or enable

CPU spread spectrum - disabled or enable
PCIE spectrum - disabled or enable
CPU clock skew - auto or XXXX ps
IOH clock skew - auto or XXXX ps

Thanks in advance for everyone's help.

Below are my system specs:
Intel Core i7 940 2.93GHz (o/c @3.96Ghz)
COOLER MASTER V8 CPU Cooler
ASUS Rampage II Extreme (v. 1104 BIOS)
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 - Two cards not running in SLI (I have a 3 monitor setup)
CORSAIR 1000HX 1000 watt PSU
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM (1600Mhz)
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB
Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit

[dejanh]

Same here....the ram won't go an inch above 1650 for me.
At corsair forums a mod says he can get up to 1900.
I find that hard to believe

I have overclocked mine to 1950MHz max completly stable from stock 1600MHz. I don't work for Corsair. So yes, it is possible, but I doubt ever set of sticks will do this.

My most pressing thing now is this stupid cold boot thing I have going on again...maybe I will really have to try a different PSU.

[posershadow]

ndiego, i'd say the vcore looks a little high. all i7s aren't created equally so there is no way i can tell what your chip needs, but i run 1.3875v in the bios at 208bclk which is like 4.3ghz, ht off, and i'm 20 runs of linx stable. that'll be your biggest influence on the temperature, if you can minimize that voltage down, you can push your bclk farther. from my experience, leaving the rest of the voltages on auto is fine. when you really start to push the bclk past 200 is when need to start tinkering with the qpi voltage.

[applescript]

Hi people,

I seem to have serious problems with my rig. I have OCed my 920 to ~4GHz (192*21). Passed Linx, OCCT, Prime95 and Orthos.
Also passed Memtest8+ V2.11 and HD Tune says all my HDDs have no bad sector/errors. Yet I am facing a similar BSOD always.
It reads PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA and sometimes it comes with disk.sys. My memory and hard drive have no problem
as shown by the tests mentioned previously. My OC also cannot be a factor as this problem has been persistent even before I
OCed my CPU. My memory has not been OCed and I AM RUNNING wIN xp X64.

aNY SOLUTIONS?

[cx-ray]

It could be a driver problem. You can find info to trace the culprit here: http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?id=335

[cx-ray]

Same here....the ram won't go an inch above 1650 for me.
At corsair forums a mod says he can get up to 1900.
I find that hard to believe

Luck of the draw...however I found that all the Corsair kits I got over the years were binned very tightly. Now I just buy the good stuff so I can keep voltages low and maintain tight timings slightly below the max speed....got tired of blowing up DDR2 every few months.

[ndiego]

ndiego, i'd say the vcore looks a little high. all i7s aren't created equally so there is no way i can tell what your chip needs, but i run 1.3875v in the bios at 208bclk which is like 4.3ghz, ht off, and i'm 20 runs of linx stable. that'll be your biggest influence on the temperature, if you can minimize that voltage down, you can push your bclk farther. from my experience, leaving the rest of the voltages on auto is fine. when you really start to push the bclk past 200 is when need to start tinkering with the qpi voltage.

posershadow - thanks for the tips. I'll try reducing the vCore down a bit and slowly increasing the blck to 200. Are you running on a 940? Just trying to get some more guidance; for your 208 blck are all your other volatages (besides vcore) on auto as well; just asking as you stated that its ok unless you go over blck of 200.

Also, forgive the noobie question, but what is "linx"?

Thanks again!

[Ellipsys]

CPU configuration
CPU Ratio Setting - auto
C1E Support - disable (?)
Hardware prefetcher - enable
Adjacent Cache line prefetcher - enable
Intel Virtualization tech - disabled (?)
CPU TM Function - disabled (?)
Execute Disabled bit - disabled (?)
Intel HT Technology - disabled
Active Processor Cores - all
A20M - enable
Intel Speedstep tech - disabled (?)
Intel Turbo Mode tech - disabled (?)
Intel C-STATE tech - disabled (?)

Could anyone go into detail which of these need to be set at what? Can any of them be left on (aside from HT, which we know can be done with varying success. I plan to stay 4.0 or below, so I'm going to try with it on)?

[dejanh]

Hi people,

I seem to have serious problems with my rig. I have OCed my 920 to ~4GHz (192*21). Passed Linx, OCCT, Prime95 and Orthos.
Also passed Memtest8+ V2.11 and HD Tune says all my HDDs have no bad sector/errors. Yet I am facing a similar BSOD always.
It reads PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA and sometimes it comes with disk.sys. My memory and hard drive have no problem
as shown by the tests mentioned previously. My OC also cannot be a factor as this problem has been persistent even before I
OCed my CPU. My memory has not been OCed and I AM RUNNING wIN xp X64.

aNY SOLUTIONS?

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA is most commonly a result of failing memory. However, as you have pointed out your memory checks out okay. Well, therein lies the problem. For the last four weeks I have been having issues with memory and it also checks out okay in all the test tools. Some members pointed to the PSU and said to try a different one, but I am having a really hard time accepting this as the source of the issue.

For me, what used to be my stable settings for booting 24/7 (1600MHz, 7-8-7-18-1T timings) no longer are stable, but only at boot. Every cold boot with it fails. Then I changed to 1600, 8-8-8-20-1T and that was fine for about four days, and yesterday I again got the cold boot hang at DET DRAM. I restored the 7-8-7-18-1T settings today, and booted only to lock up once I arrived at the desktop

Now testing the DRAM but so far so good. I am not expecting any errors to show up. I never had them show up before. All test tools always checked out 100% fine.

The longer I own this board the more convinced I am that it has some serious issues with DRAM. Either that, or it's just Corsair that for some reason is deteriorating on it. But, I am not about to go out and spend another $350 on a Mushkin kit to find out (always used them as I never had issues with them).

[posershadow]

posershadow - thanks for the tips. I'll try reducing the vCore down a bit and slowly increasing the blck to 200. Are you running on a 940? Just trying to get some more guidance; for your 208 blck are all your other volatages (besides vcore) on auto as well; just asking as you stated that its ok unless you go over blck of 200.

Also, forgive the noobie question, but what is "linx"?

Thanks again!

Linx is a stress test you'll find in the forum here. Yeah, at 208x21, with everything on auto except vcore, I got it stable in linx. I am under water though, so that definitely is a major difference we are going to have. I'm using a 920 by the way.

[Relic27777]

poserhadow, what did you set vcore to? And is that a 24/7 stable clock that you're using?

[RamGuy239]

I've got a really odd problem since I flashed to 1104!

I have been running 19x 200BLCK @ 1603MHz, 6-7-6-20-1N with HT enabled on 1.32V and 1.65V on RAM for ages now.
Suddenly after the flash my system wont boot at all?

So then I try to trick with my settings, and it seems like I have to make the RAM run 7-7-7-20-1N @ 1603MHz for the system to boot?
Okay, fine.. I was going to boot BIOS01 which got the 1001 and just forget about this new crappy BIOS!

But what happens? My old BIOS setup wont boot with 1001 any more either?
What the hell is going on?

And now, whatever what I try to lock my DRAM Timing to my BIOS just recognize 2040MB of RAM?
I can set the speed to 1603MHz, but even when trying to set the timing to 7-7-7-24, or 8-8-8-24, or even 9-9-9-28 it will but, but just recognize 2GiB RAM?

What's that all about? Not being able to lock my DRAM Timing at all? Auto DRAM Timing = 6GiB RAM, Locked settings = 2GiB RAM???!

[posershadow]

poserhadow, what did you set vcore to? And is that a 24/7 stable clock that you're using?

1.3875, yes.

[dejanh]

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA is most commonly a result of failing memory. However, as you have pointed out your memory checks out okay. Well, therein lies the problem. For the last four weeks I have been having issues with memory and it also checks out okay in all the test tools. Some members pointed to the PSU and said to try a different one, but I am having a really hard time accepting this as the source of the issue.

For me, what used to be my stable settings for booting 24/7 (1600MHz, 7-8-7-18-1T timings) no longer are stable, but only at boot. Every cold boot with it fails. Then I changed to 1600, 8-8-8-20-1T and that was fine for about four days, and yesterday I again got the cold boot hang at DET DRAM. I restored the 7-8-7-18-1T settings today, and booted only to lock up once I arrived at the desktop

Now testing the DRAM but so far so good. I am not expecting any errors to show up. I never had them show up before. All test tools always checked out 100% fine.

The longer I own this board the more convinced I am that it has some serious issues with DRAM. Either that, or it's just Corsair that for some reason is deteriorating on it. But, I am not about to go out and spend another $350 on a Mushkin kit to find out (always used them as I never had issues with them).

I've got a really odd problem since I flashed to 1104!

I have been running 19x 200BLCK @ 1603MHz, 6-7-6-20-1N with HT enabled on 1.32V and 1.65V on RAM for ages now.
Suddenly after the flash my system wont boot at all?

So then I try to trick with my settings, and it seems like I have to make the RAM run 7-7-7-20-1N @ 1603MHz for the system to boot?
Okay, fine.. I was going to boot BIOS01 which got the 1001 and just forget about this new crappy BIOS!

But what happens? My old BIOS setup wont boot with 1001 any more either?
What the hell is going on?

And now, whatever what I try to lock my DRAM Timing to my BIOS just recognize 2040MB of RAM?
I can set the speed to 1603MHz, but even when trying to set the timing to 7-7-7-24, or 8-8-8-24, or even 9-9-9-28 it will but, but just recognize 2GiB RAM?

What's that all about? Not being able to lock my DRAM Timing at all? Auto DRAM Timing = 6GiB RAM, Locked settings = 2GiB RAM???!

This is right in line with what is happening on my end. I found that I have to constantly readjust my memory timings. Very messed up if you ask me, and same as for you, going back to older BIOS does not restore stability. For me this started with 1001 (first time I encountered DET DRAM hang in months of working fine), and now it is a problem every day.

Anyway, left Memtest HCI running as I said I will using all of the memory. Been about 4 hours and no errors at all. I just stopped it now. Here is the screenshot at 1600MHz, 7-8-7-18-1T, 3600MHz Uncore.

Something is very wrong here, and there is no way in hell that it is the PSU. Maybe a more powerful PSU will make the symptoms disappear but I really doubt that anything gets fixed here. Something else is causing this, and I do not think that this is a small problem either.

EDIT: Can somebody answer this for me please...

What happens when you shut down the system for a longer period of time that does not happen when you just shut the system down for about 1 or 2, or even 3 hours? Keep in mind that no power is removed from the system at this time, nothing is shut down, unplugged, nothing at all changes. However, booting after 8 hours is a no go, but booting after 2-3 hours is always a go...

There in lies the answer to this problem, but I do not know what exactly happens, and therefore I cannot get to the bottom of this...please fill in some info to the best of your knowledge.

[Kanasatake]

This is right in line with what is happening on my end. I found that I have to constantly readjust my memory timings. Very messed up if you ask me, and same as for you, going back to older BIOS does not restore stability. For me this started with 1001 (first time I encountered DET DRAM hang in months of working fine), and now it is a problem every day.

Anyway, left Memtest HCI running as I said I will using all of the memory. Been about 4 hours and no errors at all. I just stopped it now. Here is the screenshot at 1600MHz, 7-8-7-18-1T, 3600MHz Uncore.

Something is very wrong here, and there is no way in hell that it is the PSU. Maybe a more powerful PSU will make the symptoms disappear but I really doubt that anything gets fixed here. Something else is causing this, and I do not think that this is a small problem either.

EDIT: Can somebody answer this for me please...

What happens when you shut down the system for a longer period of time that does not happen when you just shut the system down for about 1 or 2, or even 3 hours? Keep in mind that no power is removed from the system at this time, nothing is shut down, unplugged, nothing at all changes. However, booting after 8 hours is a no go, but booting after 2-3 hours is always a go...

There in lies the answer to this problem, but I do not know what exactly happens, and therefore I cannot get to the bottom of this...please fill in some info to the best of your knowledge.

Could you explain what ta heck is going on with your CPU?

Cheers, JRM/ Hermes

[dejanh]

Could you explain what ta heck is going on with your CPU?

Cheers, JRM/ Hermes

Ok, this has to top my most cryptic replies list. Are you referring to the usage graph, lol?

CPU seems fine to me

[RamGuy239]

The 1104 has indeed REALLY messed something up here..

I'm back to 1001 in both BIOS chips now, but here are a list of problems popping out of nowhere since I updated (and for some reasons they don't disappear after "down-flashing")

- Manually setting the DRAM timings doesn't work whatsoever, I will get the settings I set but when configuring this manually my BIOS just recognize 2-4GiB of my 6GiB of RAM? When running on auto all my 6GiB is recognized? But the second I configure this manually, even if it's the exact same as the dims are rated to it will just recognize 2-4GiB of my total 6GiB RAM?

- Now suddenly my system wont boot with ram setting: 1603MHz, 6-7-6-20-1N which has worked flawlessly for me since December? On BIOS 1001 and 0805 / 0804 it did pass memtest86+ over 10x times with these settings, but no suddenly with 1104 it won't post at all? Forcing me to run 7-7-7-20-1N to get it to boot?

- This is perhaps the most annoying and worst part of it all, the BIOS wont enter RAID mode! I select RAID, it reboots, it still says RAID in the BIOS but the system does not run raid? My RAID set-ups are recognized as separate disks, the CTRL+I thing for setting up RAID array never shows while booting, and of course my system don't manage to boot as my operative system is on a raid array. Would try to re-configure the array, but how can I do that when the CTRL+I never shows upon boot?


I have no idea what the hell happened when updating to this BIOS, it all seemed to go as normal, I got BIOS 1104.. The second I figured it didn't work with my BIOS set-up, as I mentioned I had to "downgrade" my RAM settings to get it to post I re-flashed down to 1001 again, but it apparently didn't solve anything? All these awkward issues after the 1104 BIOS flash persists even after flashing back? Making my system useless and not bootable as my operative system is on a raid array that doesn't work as the RAID function is screwed.

[dejanh]

The 1104 has indeed REALLY messed something up here..

I'm back to 1001 in both BIOS chips now, but here are a list of problems popping out of nowhere since I updated (and for some reasons they don't disappear after "down-flashing")

- Manually setting the DRAM timings doesn't work whatsoever, I will get the settings I set but when configuring this manually my BIOS just recognize 2-4GiB of my 6GiB of RAM? When running on auto all my 6GiB is recognized? But the second I configure this manually, even if it's the exact same as the dims are rated to it will just recognize 2-4GiB of my total 6GiB RAM?

- Now suddenly my system wont boot with ram setting: 1603MHz, 6-7-6-20-1N which has worked flawlessly for me since December? On BIOS 1001 and 0805 / 0804 it did pass memtest86+ over 10x times with these settings, but no suddenly with 1104 it won't post at all? Forcing me to run 7-7-7-20-1N to get it to boot?

- This is perhaps the most annoying and worst part of it all, the BIOS wont enter RAID mode! I select RAID, it reboots, it still says RAID in the BIOS but the system does not run raid? My RAID set-ups are recognized as separate disks, the CTRL+I thing for setting up RAID array never shows while booting, and of course my system don't manage to boot as my operative system is on a raid array. Would try to re-configure the array, but how can I do that when the CTRL+I never shows upon boot?


I have no idea what the hell happened when updating to this BIOS, it all seemed to go as normal, I got BIOS 1104.. The second I figured it didn't work with my BIOS set-up, as I mentioned I had to "downgrade" my RAM settings to get it to post I re-flashed down to 1001 again, but it apparently didn't solve anything? All these awkward issues after the 1104 BIOS flash persists even after flashing back? Making my system useless and not bootable as my operative system is on a raid array that doesn't work as the RAID function is screwed.

Try this for kicks if you want...

Downgrade to a BIOS prior to 1001 and take apart your whole system including removing the CPU. Then reassemble it again and see if it runs better...also, make sure that somewhere along the way some CPU pins did not bend.

I know it sounds completly stupid, but so is the problem. I'm at my wits end in terms of what is going on so really, anything at this point is a viable possibilty

I posted the following in Asus forums earlier in relation to experiencing boot problems only at cold boot after long periods of time powered down (I quote)...

Indeed, I can now shut down my system over and over again, even leave it off for a few hours, and still turn it back on just fine. You know what that indicates? I'll tell you...

1. Issue with the board circuits that cause them to have a better connection when warm then when cold (explains the lengthy delay required before system will exhibit cold boot problems).
2. Issue with the board capacitors.
3. Issue with the battery in that there is a problem with the connection to the board resulting in the inability to boot after all of the capacitors have been completly discharged.
4. Faulty PSU (unlikely) or board circuitry (more likely) that causes an unrealistic power draw at cold boot on the power supply. This indeed seems like the most feasable to me as it would explain why high power and amperage single-rail PSUs tend to not exhibit cold boot problems where as all other PSUs (basically 85%+ of them in the market) will exhibit some problems.

[fm13]

hello all
first let introduce my self, i'm from indonesian & i'm very newbie for OC i7 & Rampage 2 Extreme

last week i had overclock my i7 test it to 3D Mark 06 but i'm very upset about temp in 4.2ghz reach 90'C (Vcore 1.5975v) with HT : on ...

i have a question for it
1. that is normal temp for i7@4.2Ghz with HT : on ?
2. what's the different with HT : on & HT : off to the perform of CPU ??

now i run i7 920 @3.8Ghz Vcore 1.3v with HT : on

my CPU :
i7 920 + Thermalright 120 Extreme + Nidec
Rampage II Extreme
OCZ 3Gb Kit PC 1866
Zotac 9800GTX+
Corsair TX750 watt

i'm sorry if my english is worse

thx

[crazyea]

those load temps at that speed and voltage is to be expected. you do seem to have pretty good idle temps for those volts though. what is your ambient temp??

HT has a minimal impact on performance, so if you want you can disable it and drop your load temps a bit.