Now this I like and just have one question: I have one MCR320. Can this be used and just add the "new" rad to it or is this something we need to buy both rads,etc?
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Now this I like and just have one question: I have one MCR320. Can this be used and just add the "new" rad to it or is this something we need to buy both rads,etc?
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You can just add it to the one you have
ooooh..You can just add it to the one you have
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Sandwiches are fun, even primitive ones
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Is it possible to use those variable SLi/crossfire fittings to link the 2 radiators together? I am thinking of getting one of this to go with my MCR320. Then use 38mm fans and connect rads in such a way that they are in series instead of parallel.
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I suppose not everyone has seen mine so here are the pics:
zip ties work wonderfully to hold the 2 fan housings together, they are each screwed into their respective rads
I use 38mm SanAces and cutout 25mm yate loon housings as shrouds for the push side rad
That's just just a rad sandwich, that's a rad party sub.
Sandwiched rads are a great idea on how to improve performance without a lot of cost involved. I'm glad to see swiftech picking up on it and making it happen.
So where do we get these short fittings to stack them? Need the second MCR320 for my core i7 build soon.
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For someone clever enough, even these new rads can be run in series with the proper fittings if your super anal about things like that.
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does anyone know where online I can get one of the stackable rads in Canada? ive spent the weekend looking and emailed a few places asking them of availability, but cant find any...
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hey are you calling me anal???For someone clever enough, even these new rads can be run in series with the proper fittings if your super anal about things like that.
Indeed.For someone clever enough, even these new rads can be run in series with the proper fittings if your super anal about things like that.
Will be interesting to see the various difference between parallel and series (both inline flow and opposing flow). Probably minimal, but would still be interesting
AFAIK, retailers don't have these just yet. Give them a little more time.
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Yeah, I'm not expecting much difference either.Indeed.
Will be interesting to see the various difference between parallel and series (both inline flow and opposing flow). Probably minimal, but would still be interesting
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A quick note for people wanting to sandwich:
19mm Yate Loons being cored out make perfect shrouds to use with 38mm fans and the fan screws included with the rads, though the screws take some effort to force 'into' the 38mm fan (San Aces, Ultra Kazes, Panaflos all seem to be good to go though).
heres my temps with the stack and mosfets and CPU in the loop. my cpu needs a lapping.
I forgot that I never told you guys what Kind of temps I was getting
mind you this is with a low ambient of about 12c (guess), but all the same this triple rad sandwich performs AMAZING and the denkis are @ 70% atm
(I raised my voltage in this screeny to make the temps more believable
Temps are not bad but you also stated in the original post that your ambient temperature was about 12C so ideally adding about 10C to those temps would be more of a typical room temp, which is still good.
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This seems like a great news because it adds choice and flexibility to the water cooling solutions.
On the other hand, the engineer in me is wondering about the flow paths, rates, pressure drops and flow characteristics of a sandwich setup...
I mean, I've toyed around with graphs and I just can't seem to justify a parallel flow design for such a large pressure drop vs going sandwich-series. This could become a big enough problem for users with multi-rads setups that are looking to add an extra block for example (ie, I own 2x mcr120-qp and 1x mcr220, 1 cpu block and 1 gpu block with a mcp665 pump and a micro-res v1 in a tj-09).
I've already bought an all-swiftech wc loop and I'd be interested in adding a fullcover 4870x2 to my current 4870+q9650 loop, that is why I consider this strange scenario :P
Anyway, any chance that you could release some more technical info so that I could do some back-of-the-envelope calculations? Better yet, a test setup running a single mcr220 vs a stack? That would be awesome because if I get that 4870x2, I'd be interested in adding an extra 220-stack
Is the stackable rad compatible with other wc rads ? (magicool, feser, etc)
Release date ?
Oh man I can't wait to see how this performs as my current build is probably going to see an upgrade to the GPU to a 4870x2 and it would eliminate the need for me to have an external radbox :O
Since I don't feel like reading through 10000x pages, do we need our own fittings if gabe doesn't include any? Like would I need say 4x compression fittings and then a bit of tubing between them correct? Also, this may sound stupid as I never explored rad sandwiching but how would you mount the fans? I'm assuming you don't screw them in to both sides so.....
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He is going to be including a set of 4 fittings with the new rads so no further purchase is needed. The first half of this thread was figuring out if they were to be included or not.
Any testing yet? I'm doing a new build, and going back and forth between an MCR240 stack against the RX240. Same price...
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Any chance Skinnee will be getting a sample to test?
I would really love to see some numbers on this thing stacked.
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I suppose not everyone has seen mine so here are the pics:
zip ties work wonderfully to hold the 2 fan housings together, they are each screwed into their respective rads
I use 38mm SanAces and cutout 25mm yate loon housings as shrouds for the push side rad
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on a much more serious note, what you have is what we call a parallel air with a serial coolant setup. can you measure the water-temp delta switching from parallel/serial to parallel/parallel, it shouldn't be too difficult to do. in other words, leave your fans as they are, but just switch the coolant so it flows parallel..
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