X48 Rampage Formula Preview.

[greg.m]

Is this with BIOS 0802 that you are using LLC?
I didn't try it with LLC enabled anymore since BIOS 0601. I don't really care that it doesn't work. For what I know it did work flawless with my Pentium D 840@4.2GHz on my board.
I should give it a try again with BIOS 0802. It seems that a lot of you guys are doing very well with LLC enabled and BIOS 0802. If that works now for me, well than ASUS did at least fix something that I've been asking for a long time. If it doesn't work it must be something else that makes my system crash with it enabled.

I hope they fix the DRAM Clock Skews in an other BIOS release and finally add tREF and perhaps do something about the CPU GTL Voltage Reference.

No its with 0701. I went back to see how it would work with the new machines. But really give it a look because it might me a mobo fault from the beginning. Im telling you that because ive seen a lot - construction - differencies between the old and the new.


The changes that i have made to my system are new rampage and new qx9650 - i had the same before - thats all. Os is the same i had, vista 64. With my old rampage and qx9650 and with 0701 i had exactly the same problem as you.

By the way what about cpu gtl ref?

[dro]

hi guys

im planning to get myself this board
does it fit xigmatek Achilles S1284C cpu cooler?
and another thing i couldnt find on the net is
is this board compatible with the "fusion block" found on maximus extreme?

sorry for my poor english

[mikeyakame]

Here is something interesting with the new rampage(shipped with bios 0401) and QX9650.
Now with LLC enabled i dont get blue screens under idle anymore!
Before, with the old mobo(shipped with bios 0219) whatever i was doing i couldnt fix that problem.
After that i have come to the conclusion that the first rampage was the problem and i think that it has to do with the mfrdate. The old one was one of the very first made rampages and i think that thatswhy it had some faults.
I know that A-Grey has the same problem and ithink that its a good reason to rma that mobo. Its something unexcusable, a new top mobo for which someone pays a lot to has such a problem

Here is a scrnsht with my system @ idle for more than 8 hours without having any problem at all!:

Whats the motherboard revision ID? Screenshot the chipset ID tab in CPU-Z.

[Alien Grey]

No its with 0701. I went back to see how it would work with the new machines. But really give it a look because it might me a mobo fault from the beginning. Im telling you that because ive seen a lot - construction - differencies between the old and the new.


The changes that i have made to my system are new rampage and new qx9650 - i had the same before - thats all. Os is the same i had, vista 64. With my old rampage and qx9650 and with 0701 i had exactly the same problem as you.

By the way what about cpu gtl ref?

It's more than just a BSOD with the CPU idling. Don't know what is wrong with LLC on my board and like I said I don't really care if it works or not. I'm not going to RMA the board for that.

For the CPU GTL Voltage Reference, smaller increments and independent control and also smaller increments for FSB Termination Voltage.

Edit:

And of course keep out the General from messing with my system.

[mikeyakame]

It's more than just a BSOD with the CPU idling. Don't know what is wrong with LLC on my board and like I said I don't really care if it works or not. I'm not going to RMA the board for that.

For the CPU GTL Voltage Reference, smaller increments and independent control and also smaller increments for FSB Termination Voltage.

Vtt smaller increments would be much much appreciated. I've got 0.002 or 0.005v increments on this DFI board. It's magic.

[Alien Grey]

Vtt smaller increments would be much much appreciated. I've got 0.002 or 0.005v increments on this DFI board. It's magic.

And when the vtt fluctuates with 0.02 volt and poor GTL settings there isn't much fun anymore.

[mikeyakame]

And when the vtt fluctuates with 0.02 volt and poor GTL settings there isn't much fun anymore.

Neh its like beating yourself over the head with a rock for a headache, at first the headache goes away, then after a while the pain from the rock just makes the whole exercise pointless

[greg.m]

Whats the motherboard revision ID? Screenshot the chipset ID tab in CPU-Z.

I can take - later - some photos direct from the motherboard.
Here is a scrnsht:

[Alien Grey]

I can take - later - some photos direct from the motherboard.
Here is a scrnsht:

You can read the revision on the board it's just under RAMPAGE FORMULA.
Mine is revision 1.0G, PCB made in CHINA.

You can see where it's made in the top left corner of the board.

[greg.m]

You can read the revision on the board it's just under RAMPAGE FORMULA.
Mine is revision 1.0G, PCB made in CHINA.

You can see where it's made in the top left corner of the board.

Here comes some real stufffff

[Alien Grey]

By the way what about cpu gtl ref?

Since you did ask it I will tell you.

I'm running into an old BIOS bug again with BIOS 0802. It's impossible to get it stable at FSB 466MHz with this BIOS. I'm using 1.34V in the BIOS (1.23v-1.25v real) for FSB Termination Voltage an CPU GTL 0.63X and NB GTL 0.67X. Like that it fails in Prime95 Large FFT's, no matter what NB or memory voltage I use. The only solution is one step higher FSB Termination Voltage 1.36V in the BIOS (1.25v-1.26v real). Problem fixed.
The problem is fixed for the Large FFT's but now I have problems with Small FFT's. The step higher FSB Termination Voltage seems to be to high for the CPU GTL Voltage Reference. Using the CPU GTL 0.62X doens't work it makes it complete unstable.
So, what can I do?
Well... nothing, just hope that ASUS finally decide to implement independent CPU GTL Voltage Reference settings in the BIOS with usable multipliers.

[dro]

Guys

i jes tested out this board
but my NB & SB are sky high...around 60'C ish on stock E8400 idle
and it would jump to 70'c ish if i push my proc to 4.0ghz (445x9)

at first i thot it was due to the contact point
but when i touched the chipset heatsink with my fingers
damn they were HOT~ ***almost burned my fingertips hot***
so that rules out the contact surface issue

any suggestion guys?

[mikeyakame]

Guys

i jes tested out this board
but my NB & SB are sky high...around 60'C ish on stock E8400 idle
and it would jump to 70'c ish if i push my proc to 4.0ghz (445x9)

at first i thot it was due to the contact point
but when i touched the chipset heatsink with my fingers
damn they were HOT~ ***almost burned my fingertips hot***
so that rules out the contact surface issue

any suggestion guys?

Lower your nb voltage, dont use Auto settings to start with. And get some damn air flow around your northbridge.

[Roger_D25]

I was going to suggest the same thing but assumed the NB/SB voltage must have been checked after seeing high temps? With that said make sure to go into your BIOS and manually set the CPU PLL/NB/SB/VTT/and 1.5v SB. The "Auto" settings as mikeyakame mentioned already doesn't always "choose" the correct voltage for a given setting.

[dro]

will try that out
i have yet to put a fan on the chipset
but i did turn my table fan to blow directly to the system
hahaha

anyhow...being a new user to this 75 page thread
i know that its tough to remove the chipset heatsink from the NB
but will the thermal paste loosen up if i heat it up by stressing the chipset?

[MJR]

Rampage Formula BIOS 802, Intel Q9550 C1 @ 4.01Ghz, Mushkin Ascent 4x2Gb XP2-8500 (996619) cooled with a ZEROThrem FZ120 in a Antec P180 case. I didn`t had much time to stress it to the limit. I hope I have some time for some IntelBurnTest tomorrow.

Idle - 43 grade
Fulload (Prime95) - 65-68grade

ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS 0802 Template 

*Extreme Tweaker* 
Ai Overclock Tuner               [Manual] 
CPU Ratio Setting                [08.5] 
FSB Strap to North Bridge        [333Mhz] 
FSB Frequency                    [470] 
PCIE Frequency                   [100] 

DRAM Frequency                   [DDR2-941MHz] 
DRAM Command Rate                [2N] 
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal A       [Greyed Out] 
DRAM CMD Skew on Channal B       [Greyed Out] 
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal A       [Advance 300ps] 
DRAM CLK Skew on Channal B       [Advance 300ps] 

DRAM Timing Control              [Manual] 
 1st Information 
  CAS# Latency                   [5] 
  RAS# to CAS# Delay             [5] 
  RAS# PRE Time                  [5] 
  RAS# ACT Time                  [15] 
  RAS# to RAS# Delay             [3] 
  REF Cycle Time                 [50] 
  WRITE Recovery Time            [6] 
  READ to PRE Time               [3] 
 2nd Information 
  READ to WRITE Delay (S/D)      [8] 
  WRITE to READ Delay (S)        [3] 
  WRITE to READ Delay (D)        [5] 
  READ to READ Delay (S)         [4] 
  READ to READ Delay (D)         [6] 
  WRITE to WRITE Delay (S)       [4] 
  WRITE to WRITE Dealy (D)       [6] 
 3rd Information 
  WRITE to PRE Delay             [14] 
  READ to PRE Delay              [5] 
  PRE to PRE Delay               [1] 
  ALL PRE to ACT Delay           [6] 
  ALL PRE to REF Delay           [6] 

DRAM Static Read Control         [Enabled] 
Ai Clock Twister                 [Light] 
Ai Transation Booster            [Manual] 
  Common Performance Booster     [8] 

  Pull-In of CHA PH1             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHA PH2             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHA PH3             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHA PH4             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHA PH5             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHA PH6             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHB PH1             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHB PH2             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHB PH3             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHB PH4             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHB PH5             [Disabled] 
  Pull-In of CHB PH6             [Disabled] 

CPU Voltage                      [1.3000]	real 1.288 
CPU PLL Voltage                  [1.50]		real 1.552
North Bridge Voltage             [1.33]		real 1.2
DRAM Voltage                     [2.00]		real 2.0
FSB Termination Voltage          [1.30]		real 1.32
South Bridge Voltage             [1.05]		real 1.056
SB 1,5V Voltage                  [1.50]		real 1.502
Loadline Calibration             [Enabled] 
CPU GTL Voltage Reference        [0.63x] 
NB GTL Voltage Reference         [0.67x] 
DRAM Controller Voltage REF      [AUTO] 
DRAM Channel A Voltage REF       [AUTO] 
DRAM Channel B Voltage REF       [AUTO] 

CPU LED Selection                [CPU Voltage] 
NB LED Selection                 [North Bridge Voltage] 
SB LED Selection                 [South Bridge Voltage] 
Voltiminder LED                  [Enabled] 

CPU Spread Spectrum              [Disabled] 
PCIE Spred Spectrum              [Disabled] 
CPU Clock Skew                   [Delay 100ps]
NB Clock Skew	                 [Normal]


*Advanced settings* 
CPU Ratio Setting                [08.5] 
C1E Support                      [Disabled] 
CPU TM Function                  [AUTO] 
Vanderpool Technology            [Enabled] 
Execute Disable Bit              [Enabled] 
Max CPUID Value Limit            [Disabled] 
Intel(R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech.    [Disabled]

CPU-Z Validation

Once I get my NB back under water, I'm going to have to try this new bios. Those NB voltages are too good to be true!?!? Is is because of the NB skew? or is that just your board being nice?

[mikeyakame]

will try that out
i have yet to put a fan on the chipset
but i did turn my table fan to blow directly to the system
hahaha

anyhow...being a new user to this 75 page thread
i know that its tough to remove the chipset heatsink from the NB
but will the thermal paste loosen up if i heat it up by stressing the chipset?

Don't know mine came off extremely easily!

If you wriggle it around it should come off quite easily, if you need to apply a little bit of leverage under the outer lip of the heat sink with a "non-magnetic" flat head screwdriver, using the PCIE 16x slot and a bit of foam on top of it for leverage point.

[dro]

will be working on it this coming weekend mikeyakame
thanks for the tip

i was thinking off replacing the whole board's cooling with thermalright heatsink
anybody tried it before?
do you guys think its worth it?

im still finding my way around the AMI bios
i have been playing around with phoenix bios on dfi too much lately :P

[dro]

guys

my my pcprobe suddenly gives me this error
it happened twice..
crazy readings **check out the Vdimm there***

[Earzz]

Hi guys, long time ago that i checked this thread.
What brings me to a question, is it worth trying to get my OC higher with a newer bios or is it not worth the effort?

[mikeyakame]

guys

my my pcprobe suddenly gives me this error
it happened twice..
crazy readings **check out the Vdimm there***

yeah it does it don't worry too much. Use everest readings. They don't show same ridiculous spikes that never happened

PC Probe has always done that. No idea why.

[mikeyakame]

Hi guys, long time ago that i checked this thread.
What brings me to a question, is it worth trying to get my OC higher with a newer bios or is it not worth the effort?

If you need to ask it probably isn't

Me personally I just like playing with new bios' heh.

[DaLiu]

i was thinking off replacing the whole board's cooling with thermalright heatsink
anybody tried it before?
do you guys think its worth it?

It is worthing mate, i had problem with temps on NB, my mobo require quite a lot of voltage on NB for 450 fsb and the temps was quite high, if you want to be stable you need to chill the NB.











Somebody explain me something about this new 0802 bios, so basically if till now with old versions of bios i wasnt able to get a lower voltage on NB on high fsb probably with this new version using the values wroted under ill manage maybe to get lower voltage on NB?


CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.63x]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67x]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
NB Clock Skew [Normal]

[mikeyakame]

It is worthing mate, i had problem with temps on NB, my mobo require quite a lot of voltage on NB for 450 fsb and the temps was quite high, if you want to be stable you need to chill the NB.











Somebody explain me something about this new 0802 bios, so basically if till now with old versions of bios i wasnt able to get a lower voltage on NB on high fsb probably with this new version using the values wroted under ill manage maybe to get lower voltage on NB?


CPU GTL Voltage Reference [0.63x]
NB GTL Voltage Reference [0.67x]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
NB Clock Skew [Normal]

You require less voltage supply to do the task within spec, its when its out of spec you compensate with higher supply.

[Alien Grey]

Vtt smaller increments would be much much appreciated. I've got 0.002 or 0.005v increments on this DFI board. It's magic.

I received an answer on that question from ASUS. It isn't possible to change the vtt increments. It's probably like I thought hardware limitation.