**Unified** DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R-M2RS / Phenom /Data Base Thread**

[Smartidiot89]

ya thats a tough one, since your locked upward. please load optimised defaults, try lowering your multiplier and ram divider, clock up a bit, lower your HT, and then try again on the NB..

good luck

No, I have no problems actually clocking the NB. I could easily run 280 HTT x 9 NB = 2520mhz.

What I've said all along is, NB volt = impossible to raise, thus I can't get stable above 2100mhz, and booting isn't possible above 2200mhz.

[pershoot]

No, I have no problems actually clocking the NB. I could easily run 280 HTT x 9 NB = 2520mhz.

What I've said all along is, NB volt = impossible to raise, thus I can't get stable above 2100mhz, and booting isn't possible above 2200mhz.

yea... that's what im trying to assist you in honing down can you please try again? do a clean reflash of let's say 1/16 beta, nice cmos clear, and then try again?

[Rammsteiner]

Although Ive a very old BIOS (from April/may '08), it does seem to have a bit of ripple. Sometimes Vcore goes 0.01V up But, still have to flash to the latest beta, maybe that's better.

[Oese]

mmh the thing is bugging on me again...

yesterday, suddenly the 3,6g @ 1,3625v became unstable. so i lowered to 3,5g @ stock. But the pwm's were'nt hot as last time!

Today, a few minutes ago, the 3,5ghz started to become unstable, and i was kicked to desktop with the same cracking sound and screen corruption... I let the pc cool down and did a restart, now even the 3,6ghz are working again, that is not throwing a bsod at me after 1 test of prime as it was the case yesterday. Also the pwm temps went now down from a middleish 55°C to 46°C at full load...

i'm about to believe that its either my psu or, more likely as these things have been reported earlier, the bios. I will go back to the 12/26 now as it seems stable and see what that behaves like...

watch out! this is kinda scary indeed....

only problem with the 12/26 is you are not able to edjust nb-fid setting when using cnq :/

but.. can it be? 15w lower in idle and 50w lower under prime stress just because of the nb now running 1,8ghz instead of 2,6ghz @ 1,3v?

[bldegle2]

Oese,

It ain't yer imagination, when my unit goes on the fritz, the PWM temps hold steady @50*c+ at idle and when stressing the system will crash hard, when normally it would be 36*c....usually, after one of these sequences. I have to shut down for 10/15 minutes, clear the CMOS, then upon restart the PWM is usually back to normal, you can't just restart when the sequence happens as something is 'locking' the PWM to higher temps (like volts out of control)......I doubt seriously a proper bios would correct this problem, it is a board quirk, pure and simple...............

It is strange, happens when pushing the clock harder and stressing the rig hard.....and the board takes awhile sometimes to 'come back' to the clock that worked before, fiddling a bit here and there is what I have to do to get it all back sometimes, other times the CMOS reloaded works.....

NEVER happened with a single or dual core, and I skipped the Phenom 1 craze, but it only happens with a 940 on the board, HMMMM????

laterzzzzz..................

[Oese]

i dont believe its the board itself. i never had that happen with the phenom 1 and the biosses belonging to it, 05/05 or 03/07. NEVER. and the pI things had a much higher power draw...

but yeah i thought of your posts when writing this. had them in mind since you posted here and in dfi club. and it kinda fits to what brother esau experienced... i will observe the system with the 12/26 bios, which seemed to be completely stable yesterday evening after flashing and an hour of prime...

[mcmeat51]

Hi guys,

as Ive said before, my Phenom 9950 is limited to an OC of about 3Ghz which I think is pretty poor considering I have a decent WC system and RAM.

What is the bets bios out for OCing the 9950?

also what is the best way to flash, i normally use the windows thingy, but is that not as good?

should i do more than one reflash at a time to 'make sure' if u see what I mean.

cheers

Matt

[Rammsteiner]

Since both my DFI SB750 boards ed up now, Im back on the M2R.

Im running an old BIOS, somewhere from April/May '08 IIRC, but Im kind of lost which BIOS I should flash to;

Ive read from BE's post that latest normal BIOS 01-12-08 kills onboard LAN in Vista. Im running a wireless USB adapter, so actually this might be a good BIOS?

Ive read mixed results from both 16-01 and 21-01. Also what exactly might be killing the PhII's on this board? Ive noticed a 0.01V ripple on the very old BIOS, but well, it's not like this doesnt happen on any other board ever

So what BIOS guys? Im lost now and just wished DFI released a serious solid one, but we all have our wishes and always something/someone doing the opposite

[Oese]

i'd say try the 12/26.. i've had problems with 01/21 lately...

[panzerchaos47]

Looks my 790FX-M2RS died after a BSOD about interrupt from secondary processor has not receive but for some reason this happen couple of times on W7 so I don't know if that's the cause. After BSOD the motherboard wouldn't post. Fans, DVD drive and lights on the motherboard work. I already check RAM, GPU and CPU (I use a working Athlon X2 5000+ BE to test if it's the CPU)

Currently got RMA# just wondering if I can drive there to give the motherboard since DFI place is one hour away.

[Oese]

bad... i think bios is corrupt...

[mcmeat51]

yes but wats best bios for Phenom I? I dont care about onboard lan in vista as I too use a wireless usb dongle.

[Brother Esau]

Although Ive a very old BIOS (from April/may '08), it does seem to have a bit of ripple. Sometimes Vcore goes 0.01V up But, still have to flash to the latest beta, maybe that's better.

Whats the matter Ramm don't believe whats been said about current bios situation? 2 Phenom 940 BE that went debunked on low voltage says different My carrying on is legitimate and real not some plot to discredit D.F.I

[Russ_64]

Man, you guys scare me ........ my P2 rig is rock solid at stock (spec in sig). I have been running Folding on CPU (SMP on 2 cores) and GPUs (on 2 cores) 24/7 under Windows 7 64bit Beta for 2 weeks.

I am about to start OC and now I am worried about the stuff I am reading above, so what are the DO's and DON'Ts with DFI beta BIOS.......

Advice on what to raise, multi's on CPU / NB / HT and/or safe voltages would be real nice

[Oese]

yes but wats best bios for Phenom I? I dont care about onboard lan in vista as I too use a wireless usb dongle.

for p1 i would recommend 03/07 bios or 05/05 beta. Thats what i used for months without any issue...

@ russ_62: if you are not much into cnq, use 12/26 beta. It seems to be the best bios for P2 so far for stability...

about the dos and donts (with 01/16 and 01/21): still under development you can do anything (i did^^) but perhaps there is some residual risk...

[Rammsteiner]

Whats the matter Ramm don't believe whats been said about current bios situation? 2 Phenom 940 BE that went debunked on low voltage says different My carrying on is legitimate and real not some plot to discredit D.F.I

No, you should read better I think.

I know M2R has some weird issues, that's why Im asking which BIOS I should pick to play on the safe side.

Both the SB750 boards died now, I got to use something

Also you said low voltage? Since at stock I did have ripple, last night I did a quick check at 1.47Vcore and it was rock solid with the same BIOS Although stock Vcore was set at AUTO and not fixed

But, I do believe you, I agreed more than not with you about DFI's mess right now. On the otherhand, one issue does not automatically guarantee all boards will suffer from this. Ive had tons of issues with this board yet while you didnt

[Ass_Itch]

what about new beta bios? when will it be?

[Brother Esau]

At this point I have no clue what to recommend

On a Brighter Note D.F.I has contacted me personally again and look forward to collaboration between myself one other person and D.F.I to get this mess sorted out with AMD Bios need to get the official response from D.F.I with my initial proposal for Board and Bios request and collaboration with D.F.I Bios Team.

Hopefully if it all goes well (It Should) and they send the Motherboard Requests to me Oese is my selected chosen Person for aiding and assisting me with this request to D.F.I inc

[Rammsteiner]

Whoa lol, BIOS's are weird

Flashed to 26/12, and it restarts everytime after a few minutes of OCCT. However the PWM do get hot, they might be hitting 85C maybe, triggering a restart

Ill try and put a fan on those MOSFETs, some ghetto modding with tie-wraps might get the job done

I found some modded BIOS's on Rebel Haven forum, but they're mainly for the M2RS, the M2R ones haven't been updated for a long time

BE, I hope you get those DFI people to get some stuff done then, although it seems like you and Oese will have to do the most things anyway But it would become time they release a final and good stable BIOS.

I dont mind unstable beta's, but after 1.5 years... there should be a BIOS without crap. They better get it fixed before this board might pop and/or they release an AM3 based UT board cause I wont buy it if this stuff keeps on going

With one stupid fix to read temps correctly they manage to kill the whole Voltage table (as an example how retarded those stacking BIOS's are becoming).

Im wondering if that BIOS chip its self ain't bugged/faulty like hell?

[Rammsteiner]

Oese,

It ain't yer imagination, when my unit goes on the fritz, the PWM temps hold steady @50*c+ at idle and when stressing the system will crash hard, when normally it would be 36*c....usually, after one of these sequences. I have to shut down for 10/15 minutes, clear the CMOS, then upon restart the PWM is usually back to normal, you can't just restart when the sequence happens as something is 'locking' the PWM to higher temps (like volts out of control)......I doubt seriously a proper bios would correct this problem, it is a board quirk, pure and simple...............

It is strange, happens when pushing the clock harder and stressing the rig hard.....and the board takes awhile sometimes to 'come back' to the clock that worked before, fiddling a bit here and there is what I have to do to get it all back sometimes, other times the CMOS reloaded works.....

NEVER happened with a single or dual core, and I skipped the Phenom 1 craze, but it only happens with a 940 on the board, HMMMM????

laterzzzzz..................

Hmmm, Ive had at some point an A64 6400+ which had something look like degarding. However this might have been caused by a DIMM slot failure on another board, maybe it sort of made the IMC degrade. Ain't impossible since once I put in a DIMM inccorectly (yes I know, was in a hurry), and the IMC refused to work with 4 DIMMs since and even didnt want to read specific modules.

[SAB]

Ok after long hard testing of 1/16 and 1/21 Beta bios.
I'm convinced that they are bugged big time.
Way unstable, I too could overclock easier with those bios.
But it would become unstable all of a sudden,unable to even run at stock speeds some times.
Even after I flashed back to 12/26 Bios it showed the same signs of instability. Thought maybe I fried my CPU like Esau,but things are stable again....lol for now.

[Smartidiot89]

NEW BETA BIOS OUT FOR:
LANPARTY JR 790GX-M2RS
LANPARTY DK 790GX-M2RS
LANPARTY DK 790FXB-M2RSH

Branded as "2009-02-13"

I am off to work so can't test this But I am hoping to get some results from you people of how the new BIOSes are working.

Wonder why there is no beta bios for "LANPARTY DK 790FXB-M2RS", isn't that same-same compared to M2RSH or did I miss something?

Also, if changing the NB voltage works correctly YOU MUST REPORT AND I LUV YOU LONG TIME!

[Oese]

it seems really like all these p2 biosses are wrecked. just today when i was reading here the comp rebooted at his former stable idle setting... more weird, 0,8v was now 0,864v without reason. i will now flash 03/07 official and look whether that good old one is stable with p2... although ddr1066 setting is not working for me on that bios...

dammit... something must be done about it really..

[Russ_64]

NEW BETA BIOS OUT FOR:
LANPARTY JR 790GX-M2RS
LANPARTY DK 790GX-M2RS
LANPARTY DK 790FXB-M2RSH

Branded as "2009-02-13"

Nope - only for the GX - no new beta for the FXB

[bldegle2]

after all this time, and still no 'perfect' or 'close to perfect' bios, it may well be that there is NO REAL SOLUTION to the problem.....

I am of the opinion there is some component on the board that just goes wacko under huge stress (read, clocking and volting), and there is no bios that can control defective or squirrely parts....

Again, the AMD side of the fence gremlins just won't go away......and it ain't just DFI, krap, all the other palyers have their own little quirks, some won't run 4 sticks of ram @1066 with a Phenom with any guarantee, then why put four slots on the board???? so it will look purdy (I know, run them @800)???? this has been going on FOREVER......as much as I like AMD, it is second tier electronics at best....

beat the horse to death or go horse tryin' to fix it, LOL...

and the beat goes on...

laterzzzzz......................