OCZ to come out with new VERTEX SSD,S equiped with 64MB OF CACHE starting at $129

**swiftex** · 02-17-2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Griff805

For a fair comparison to the "Skunkworx" ATTO benchmark- Here's my new X25-M on an ICH10R, running Windows 7 at the time of the benchmark. I've put the queue up to 10, to match. Settings are all exactly like theirs. This should show you a more fair comparison...

Yes, the intel's write max is slower, but it hit it's max throughput, actually more than it's spec'd max write throughput at only 2k transfers. And notice the almost 280MB/s reads at 256k-

So, both are fast drives- However, it will be interesting to see the Vertex after release. It looks like it's going to come down to a small price difference, and whether the write throughput on larger files is important to you or not.

2x 60gb v2 jmicron............

what's your point?

**Griff805** · 02-17-2009, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by swiftex

2x 60gb v2 jmicron............

what's your point?

My point was that you can setup ATTO to make a drive look better-

What's yours?

**swiftex** · 02-17-2009, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Griff805

My point was that you can setup ATTO to make a drive look better-

What's yours?

moot at best......point made

**HDCHOPPER** · 02-17-2009, 09:46 PM

hopefully ... Tony can get vertex released with firmware 10 or 9.5 for us overclockers lol

**headala** · 02-18-2009, 12:55 PM

Here's PC Perspectives' new review of the Vertex 120:
http://pcper.com/article.php?aid=670

Outperforms Intel's in most test, and better cost/GB to boot! Curiously, they don't list a 30GB version.

**Griff805** · 02-18-2009, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by headala

Here's PC Perspectives' new review of the Vertex 120:
http://pcper.com/article.php?aid=670

Outperforms Intel's in most test, and better cost/GB to boot! Curiously, they don't list a 30GB version.

Lol, did you actually read the whole biased review?

**lowfat** · 02-18-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Griff805

Lol, did you actually read the whole biased review?

did you even read the review?

Obviously not.

**DYM** · 02-19-2009, 12:08 AM

I fail at posting preview news!

Already posted

**lowfat** · 02-19-2009, 09:11 AM

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=51364

A poll has been added to show on how they should configure the firmware on Vertex.

**headala** · 02-19-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Griff805

Lol, did you actually read the whole biased review?

Could you please post what you see as discrepancies with other non-biased reviews? I would like to learn from your wisdom.

**Griff805** · 02-19-2009, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by headala

Could you please post what you see as discrepancies with other non-biased reviews? I would like to learn from your wisdom.

If you can't see the bias in that review, then there's no point in wasting my time talking to you...

Doesn't really matter anyway, I'm happy with my drives.

**Miwo** · 02-19-2009, 12:36 PM

personally I think that by the time the Firmware has been decided for Vertex and it will be in retail channels, Summit will be so close who will even care about Vertex?
Should have been out at the same time of Apex launch

looking at the poll, low b/w but high IOPs is winning by a fair margin

**One_Hertz** · 02-19-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Miwo

looking at the poll, low b/w but high IOPs is winning by a fair margin

People are starting to understand something it seems. Good news for all of us. Manufacturers design SSDs to sell to the average consumer and if the average person knows that it is not about the sequential rates, hopefully SSDs will evolve to something that is actually fast and not "fast" in hdtach/hdtune/etc.

**headala** · 02-19-2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Griff805

If you can't see the bias in that review, then there's no point in wasting my time talking to you...

Doesn't really matter anyway, I'm happy with my drives.

That's exactly what I thought you would say.

I really don't think you ever even read it; you just made an incendiary remark and then refuse to back it up.

It doesn't matter to me if the review is biased or not, it's not a personal thing to me. I simply would like to know what there is about it that is biased. Simple question.

**TimoneX** · 02-19-2009, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

People are starting to understand something it seems. Good news for all of us. Manufacturers design SSDs to sell to the average consumer and if the average person knows that it is not about the sequential rates, hopefully SSDs will evolve to something that is actually fast and not "fast" in hdtach/hdtune/etc.

One can only hope. I see all those silly HDTach posts and I ask...okay perty picture...but is it fast? Does it clog up when you try to check your email?

**Lu(ky** · 02-19-2009, 02:52 PM

Wow a poll now.. We have been waiting thinking they are ready being firmware fine tuned already and now this poll. Now after this poll it would take atleast a week to fix these then reship out.. GRrrrr No offense but tired of waiting for something that still maybe not pass the Intel SSD and save a buck or two.

**One_Hertz** · 02-19-2009, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Lu(ky

Wow a poll now.. We have been waiting thinking they are ready being firmware fine tuned already and now this poll. Now after this poll it would take atleast a week to fix these then reship out.. GRrrrr No offense but tired of waiting for something that still maybe not pass the Intel SSD and save a buck or two.

It definitely will not pass the Intel SSD for performance, but it will be cheaper.

**Lu(ky** · 02-19-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by One_Hertz

It definitely will not pass the Intel SSD for performance, but it will be cheaper.

I was checking out your reviews you did Hertz good job. I think I will bight the bullet when I get home and buy the 2 Intel E Extremes 32GB

**headala** · 02-19-2009, 06:09 PM

Yeah, the presence of a poll worries me as well; I'm thinking, "shouldn't that have been done back in early December when they were announcing the drive???"

**lowfat** · 02-19-2009, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by headala

Yeah, the presence of a poll worries me as well; I'm thinking, "shouldn't that have been done back in early December when they were announcing the drive???"

But people didn't start complaining about the IOPS till previews of the drive started popping up this past week.

**One_Hertz** · 02-19-2009, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Lu(ky

I was checking out your reviews you did Hertz good job. I think I will bight the bullet when I get home and buy the 2 Intel E Extremes 32GB

Just a quick note: 2x X25-Es in raid 0 was the same performance as 1 for me in all apps. Just in general raid 0 gives little benefit to performance (read the raid sticky if you want to find out why) and in this case it shows even more because single drives are already so fast. I only got two because I needed 64GB of space. If you are fine with 32GB then save your money and get just one; performance is the same.

Another quick note, besides the cache, the adaptec 5405 I have actually SLOWS DOWN the drives versus onboard. You will be perfectly fine with onboard. In fact, I am selling my 5405 and moving to onboard because it is faster in most things and I dont have to deal with 45sec being added to my boot time due to the controller.

Also overall real world write performance degrades about 20% after a lot of use. The only way to get it back is to format the drive. I reformat my array after every month; I have a system set up now that takes an image of my boot array and writes it to one of my storage HDDs then I wipe then I stick the image onto the array again; takes 1.5h-2h overall to do a "refresh".

Sorry for the off topic...

**headala** · 02-19-2009, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by lowfat

But people didn't start complaining about the IOPS till previews of the drive started popping up this past week.

LOL, that's true, thanks for pointing that out.

**Griff805** · 02-19-2009, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by lowfat

But people didn't start complaining about the IOPS till previews of the drive started popping up this past week.

No, people were complaining about IOPS since the Core drives were first released... I know, I was there- They've known about this for a long time. That's why I don't understand why higher IOPS is not a priority for their Vertex drives-

**One_Hertz** · 02-19-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Griff805

No, people were complaining about IOPS since the Core drives were first released... I know, I was there- They've known about this for a long time. That's why I don't understand why higher IOPS is not a priority for their Vertex drives-

It WAS a priority and it was MARKETED as a high IOPS drive but look what happened. They might fix it after all. I mean, I am sure Intel faced the same decision when they designed the X25-M of high seq writes versus high IOPS and they went the IOPS route. Intel isn't filled with idiots last time I checked.

**FoxRacR17** · 02-19-2009, 09:48 PM

Well I dont know what i'm going to get now. I want to get an SSD just as my OS drive, so I imagine I would want a drive with high IOPS right? Does the X25-M fit that need? If it does I may just end up getting that 'cause i'm tired of waiting for the vertex because OCZ is putzing around with the firmware and cant decide what they want to do with the vertex. I, like most people I assume want a drive that opens all my applications super fast and boots my computer super fast.

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