Quote Originally Posted by k|ngp|n View Post
40k Vantage has been done on a retail chip Sampsa. Honestly until that is done....there is nothing really to say there about ES this or that.

Lets not derail again same as fuggers/mike guave's thread, I understand what you mean Andre as it seems like those guys took alot more heat than in this thread, which is basically same thing. This is what you mean right?
All of this whats an "official" and what isn't a wor** reco** stuff is getting old . How do the scores get in the HOF? If they dont let video cards on the orb before launch, I don't get why the same doesn't apply to pre-release cpu's, especially when they are game changers This goes for all hardware. Futuremark is really dissapointing sometimes, but I guess if it's their benchmark and they set the precedent by allowing this stuff on the HOF, that's how it goes.
The game has definitely changed. Big companies have entered this scene and there is no way back. There is no overclocking federation or anything to make "official rules" regarding equipment being used like in professional sports to make competition fair for everyone (for example Formula 1 etc).

In case of 3DMark if Futuremark's ORB accepts the score and it is being displayed in Hall of Fame.. the score is legit. No matter if CPU is engineering sample or not even released yet. With unreleased graphics cards the system seems to work better mostly because drivers need to be validated.

Nowadays it is nearly impossible to make WR in latest 3DMarks (05,06&Vantage) with retail chip since CPU is playing such a big role in these benchmarks. You need to have access to engineering samples or test several retail chips to find a good one. I think we all agree on this.

Just my 2 cents. I won't continue on this topic anymore and I'll continue to focus getting higher 3DMark results with all platforms AMD/Intel/ATI/NVIDIA.