UnOfficial Asus Rampage II Extreme Thread

[jcniest5]

With the latest 1104 BIOS, I can't get my system to run stable with the same OC setting as I can with 1001. Please explain to me how to make a change to this "new" TDP thing that Asus supposedly fixed on this latest BIOS?

[electricl]

Im posting this again in hope to get some help.










Hey guys I was wondering if somebody could help me get my oc stable with HT on.
So far I cant runt HT on at the settings below and I dont know how much more I can raise vcore without the temps getting too high.
I can run 3800MHz HT on@1.352v but that seems a bit too high. Any help would be appreciated. Im on latest BIOS. Settings below are Prime, Linx and pcmark/3Dmark vantage stable.



AI overclock - manual
OC from CPU level up - auto
OC from Memory level up - auto
CPU Ratio setting - auto

CPU configuration
CPU Ratio Setting - auto
C1E Support - disable
Hardware prefetcher - enable
Adjacent Cache line prefetcher - enable
Intel Virtualization tech - disabled
CPU TM Function - disabled
Execute Disabled bit - disabled
Intel HT Technology - disabled
Active Processor Cores - all
A20M - enable
Intel Speedstep tech - enabled
Intel Turbo Mode tech - enabled
Intel C-STATE tech - disabled

BCLK frequency - 191
PCIE frequency - 110
DRAM frequency - DDR3 1528MHz
UCLK frequency - 3056MHz
QPI frequency - auto

Dram timing control
1st iformation - Insert Timings Here in 9-9-9-24 -X-X-Xformat
2nd information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX -X-X-Xformat
3rd information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX-X-X-X format

EPU II phase control - full phase
Load-line calibration - enable
CPU differential amplitude - 800mV
Extreme OV - disabled

Current voltage
Cpu voltage - 1.328V in windows 1.35000v BIOS
CPU PLL voltage - auto
QPI-Dram voltage - 1.37500v BIOS 1.356v win

Current voltage 1.131v - 1.508v - 1.111v - 1.508v
IOH voltage - 1.39v
IOH PCIE voltage - auto
ICH voltage- 1.15316 BIOS 1.15v win
ICH PCIE voltage - auto

Current voltage X.xxx v, X.xxx v, X.xxx v ,X.xxx v
DRAM Bus voltage - 1.64356 v BIOS 1.640 Win
DRAM REF voltage - auto

Debug mode - string
Keyboard TeakIt comtrol - disabled or enable

CPU spread spectrum - disabled or enable
PCIE spectrum - disabled or enable
CPU clock skew - auto or XXXX ps
IOH clock skew - auto or XXXX ps

[BustaH]

I dont think cpu 1.352v is too high on those settings unless your rig is getting very hot, your ioh doesnt need to be as high as it is imo at those clocks.
you could bring that down a bit. Also why have you set CPU differential amplitude - 800mV? dont think that is really needed at these clocks, auto will adjust it as needed.

[dejanh]

@electricl - OCing your PCIE is not a good idea. It can cause system wide corruption. Also, I will say this again...not every chip can run 4GHz with HT on. Some simply cannot. Try 20x200MHz, 1.4V Vcore, 1.35000V QPI/DRAM, and 1.65681V DRAM and see if that is stable.

[scaramonga]

@electricl - OCing your PCIE is not a good idea. It can cause system wide corruption.

Yup.

You can clock PCIE (it can sometimes help the balance), but not by the amount you have (110), maybe 101 or 102, but generally leave as is

[BustaH]

pcie if you need to clock it is best done in windows with setfsb in my experience. doing it in bios can cause havoc with your sata drives, if you go too far with pcie overclocked with setfsb the system will just hang or crash. As a general rule I allways set 101 in bios and then if 3d benching use setfsb.

101 in bios is fine for any game I've ever played. Though I cant comment on if it helps with video editing and such.

[DR3]

Posting this up again. Could anyone give me a response? Thanks!

I have tried several methods to keep the NB cool.
I can not believe ASUS did not think a water block needed.
First I took an old RE alternate cooler and tried it, no difference.
Then I tried a Koolance 122 water block.
Reduced it a little but still not much.
Then went with a larger Koolance 135 block that is designed for a CPU and it did OK.
But, the temps where still not as low as I would like.
So I took an 80W pelter/tec under the 135 block.
This works great!

I guess you could use something like the Thermalright HR-05/IFX Heatpipe Chipset Cooler and a 80mm fan.



This is a pretty large cooler so I am not sure of the fit.

There are others that may be a better fit like the Thermaltake CL-C0034 Copper Fan & Heatsinks.



Hope that helps.
Me I will stay with my pelter and water block.

[posershadow]

After spending all day working on my uncore speed, I've gotten to this. This board has the oddest voltage issues, especially in the qpi/dram area.
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=508032

[Movieman]

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Puts on mod hat;
Now I've spoken with both of you in PM on this and will say this publically:
I don't give a rats ass what went on at another forum but it isn't coming here!
I hope I've made my point and plainly.
It stops now.
I'm removing the posts both of you made on this subject and getting this thread back on topic.
Thanks for reading.
Dave

[T_Flight]

Roger! Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

I've noticed some...I don;t know how to put it...some unusual voltage issues. I can quite put my finger on it. It like evertime a setting is changed it's like you have to relearn this board all over again. It's almost like you just have to randomly try things that at first don't make any sense, and then they work!

It's like this guy ---> Huh?!? I've caught things like that two or 3 times, and cannot make any deductions from it. It's like everytime yiou change a ratio you have to start changing all kinds of settings to get it stable.

This is a completely different kind of running to me with these CPU's. They are awesome, but learning to get high clocks is proving to be pretty difficult. 3.8GHz was a piece of cake. 4.0GHz took me slightly longer, but was starightforward. 4.2GHz was quite difficult and I had to find the magic QPI/DRAM Vtt, and really raise the vCore to achieve it...not just a bump, but 2 or 3 bumps.

Now, 4.3GHz is proving to be elusive, and I'm concerned about messing with IOH, and MCH voltages and all of that, but it seems like when you hit a wall these are the things that are working for people, but I cannot make heads or tails from all the reports I'm reading. I'm using water cooling so I can't go too insane becasue that takes Xtreme Cooling.

What do you guys think? Think I'm about walled out for the cooling I have, or is there stuff I'm missing?

[DerekT]

Indeed. Thanks for clearing up the mess. On to other things.

This new BIOS allows me a higher stability while running on air. I can now make 4.0Ghz HT on a TRUE Black with less voltage.

I don't give a rats ass what went on at another forum but it isn't coming here!

[jcniest5]

Indeed. Thanks for clearing up the mess. On to other things.

This new BIOS allows me a higher stability while running on air. I can now make 4.0Ghz HT on a TRUE Black with less voltage.

Derek, how did you get a multiplier of 22x on the 920 as reports by Everest?

[OcAddict]

the koolance block is on their webby
for the qpi dram its a addon
but the bits power seems to be one piece block but with a hefty price tag.

I've searched for the blocks, i did find the one from koolance and it's nice! But the one from bits power i didn't find. Checked there site but i did not find any watercooling parts on there Do you have a link please?

@DR3
How did you mount the pelt + wc block, do you have a pic please. I have a 60W pelt laying around here somewhere

[Bootsy]

^^

Pics of the Bitspower block here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=212241.

[jasonelmore]

I've searched for the blocks, i did find the one from koolance and it's nice! But the one from bits power i didn't find. Checked there site but i did not find any watercooling parts on there Do you have a link please?

@DR3
How did you mount the pelt + wc block, do you have a pic please. I have a 60W pelt laying around here somewhere

Performance-PCs.com has a few Rampage II Extreme Blocks. EK and Koolance i think.

Links to: Koolance Full NB/SB/IOH Block and the EK Full Cover NB/SB Block which comes in a Delrin top version and a Acrylic Version. Pick your flavor.

I like the one above the most just for it's looks.. I have no idea on performance numbers.

You almost have to get a full cover block to get any perfomance out of the NorthBridge section. Because even if you remove the Stock NB heatsink, There is still a plate of copper there. That's why I did'nt go ahead and get that fancy swiftech water block that was made for the original Rampage Extreme. The WaterBlock is not getting direct contact with the die.

[Nvidia Ireland]

Hi Guys,

I am new to xtremesystems and to overclocking. Currently my 920 is overclocked to 3.2GHz using the Tune-Up facility in the Bios. I am looking to try and overclock to 3.8GHz to 4.0GHz. Can anyone post their Bios settings so that I can copy? Thanks.

Intel i7 920 @ 3.2GHz
Asus Rampage Extreme 2 Motherboard (Bios 1104)
9GB Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz DDR3 Memory
Quad SLI EVGA GTX 295 Graphics Cards
Lian Li PC-80 Case
CoolIt Domino ALC CPU Cooler
300GB Western Digtal VelociRaptor Hard Drive
250GB Western Digital Hard Drive
250GB Western Digital Hard Drive
Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W
LG Blue-Ray Drive
Samsung DVD Re-Writer

[yup]

I don't understand, what is Turbo mode Limit? Should i enable it or shouldn't i?

[theonlybabyface]

I don't understand, what is Turbo mode Limit? Should i enable it or shouldn't i?

Disable it to remove the TDP limit but leave your multiplier on Auto and enable speedstep and turbo and your good to go.

[waixxx]

Tests the software to make a mistake

[crazyea]

is anyone else experiencing very poor raid performance on this board?

For ex. I had two wd6401aals drives in raid-0 and the performance was good, about 130mb/s average.
Single drive on this board was around 95mb/s average.

Now i went out and added 2 more of the same drives (all model, and firmwares match) to run 4xraid0 + 4x raid5 in a matrix setup. 320gb os raid0 stripe + remainder data raid 5 stripe.

I am getting the exact same performance using 4 drives as i was with 2 in raid 0, and the raid 5 performance is abysmal drooping down to 5mbs throughout the drive.

Extracting rar files with this setup is painfully slow. at least 2x to 3x as long as the raid-0 stripe.
Now, I know raid 5 is not supposed to be as fast, but with 4 drives it shouldn't be this brutal.......

Measured with hd-tune.....

[posershadow]

Tests the software to make a mistake

Try upgrading to everest 5, it fixed all the bugs in the i7 readings with latencies and all.

[andyr(uk)]

Performance-PCs.com has a few Rampage II Extreme Blocks. EK and Koolance i think.

Links to: Koolance Full NB/SB/IOH Block and the EK Full Cover NB/SB Block which comes in a Delrin top version and a Acrylic Version. Pick your flavor.

I like the one above the most just for it's looks.. I have no idea on performance numbers.

You almost have to get a full cover block to get any perfomance out of the NorthBridge section. Because even if you remove the Stock NB heatsink, There is still a plate of copper there. That's why I did'nt go ahead and get that fancy swiftech water block that was made for the original Rampage Extreme. The WaterBlock is not getting direct contact with the die.

Is it easy to remove the stock cooling even after it has run for a while or is it best done from new ?
I am thinking the heatsink compound will get baked

[glenn37216]

This seems to be a good deal on a full coverage block also , I noticed in the linkie above its out of stock...This is from the same people on Ebay my Gpu block came from . Theyre fast dependable Ebay'ers.
Koolance MB-ASR2E (ASUS Rampage II Extreme) [no nozzles

Just ordered one but it will be a week or so before I'm able to get it installed. - Had to order coolent and more tubing .

[dejanh]

Hi Guys,

I am new to xtremesystems and to overclocking. Currently my 920 is overclocked to 3.2GHz using the Tune-Up facility in the Bios. I am looking to try and overclock to 3.8GHz to 4.0GHz. Can anyone post their Bios settings so that I can copy? Thanks.

Intel i7 920 @ 3.2GHz
Asus Rampage Extreme 2 Motherboard (Bios 1104)
9GB Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz DDR3 Memory
Quad SLI EVGA GTX 295 Graphics Cards
Lian Li PC-80 Case
CoolIt Domino ALC CPU Cooler
300GB Western Digtal VelociRaptor Hard Drive
250GB Western Digital Hard Drive
250GB Western Digital Hard Drive
Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W
LG Blue-Ray Drive
Samsung DVD Re-Writer

Try everything on Auto/Defaults except set:

Turbo Power Limit Disabled
19x multiplier
200MHz BCLK
1604MHz DRAM, 8-8-8-24-1T timings
Vcore around 1.25V
QPI/DRAM 1.35000V
DRAM 1.65681V

By the way, how did you manage to get 9GB or DRAM? Surely that must be wrong...

[Nvidia Ireland]

[QUOTE= By the way, how did you manage to get 9GB or DRAM? Surely that must be wrong...[/QUOTE]


No I have 9GB Of RAM (3 x 2GB and 3 x 1GB)