** Official ** Gigabyte UD3 P45 Series -- EP45-UD3 / EP45-UD3R / EP45-UD3P

[SimpleTECH]

so how did you keep the hs on the mofsets on when taking off the NB off

does the heatpipe come off

Yes the heatpipe comes off very easily. All you have to do is gently twist it as you're dismounting the northbridge heatsink. It bends easily, so be somewhat gentle.

[DOM.]

Yes the heatpipe comes off very easily. All you have to do is gently twist it as you're dismounting the northbridge heatsink. It bends easily, so be somewhat gentle.

alright thanks

should get it like wed-thursday

[radaja]

505x8 with 8 gigs of ram with decent 24/7 type volts.3hrs 31minutes prime95 blend and still priming.

[xbiusx]

prime stable E8400@4,25ghz under H2O,windows 7,Ocz reaper 4GB pc1066

Sorry to question about this, but the screen from ORTHOS is really 8.5x500? cause ORTHOS have one problem about the multi, it always set 9.5, so my guess is that you were running 473 FSB, and the voltages doesn`t match with 8.5x500...

I`m looking for stability at 500 FSB multi 8.5 and my voltages are very different from yours...

[ChuckM]

Should I try to OC this with just one stick of ram? Also my board came with F6 bios.
Thanks

[clo007]

I hate you people

[radaja]

clo007,dude i feel your pain.you've probally had by far the worst luck with this board.and i can empathize with on this issue(i had sort of the same luck with my MIIF).i really wish you could have a fully functioning board so you could have the same fun and successes as most user are having.i gave up on the MIIF because of my experience with it and even though i have a new fully functioning one now,i wont use it ,or keep it. mainly because,"frankly" i already have a far superior board in the UD3P.so i guess what im getting at is dont give up on this board just yet,it is worth trying to get one that works.i've been keeping track of your problems for the most part,but is there any way you can do another RMA?if not maybe you can find a used or open box for cheap.i mean it is simply worth trying to get one that works.they are that good.any ways,sorry to hear its still a no go for your board.

[clo007]

I returned the rev 1.1 for a refund and I am stuck with this rev 1.0. I may pull the trigger first on the UD3P. I just wish Gigabyte tech support was more helpful. Here is the chat log with them:

Question - 710351
From : Chris
Sent : 1/27/2009 08:46
Question : I have 2 of the same motherboard, a rev 1.0 and a rev 1.1 with the exact same issue. NO matter what I do, or what kind of ram or size of the modules, I can only run 1 stick.
If I try to install both sticks, my computer just power cycles, never getting to the bios screen. As soon as I pull a stick out and run 1 stick, it boots up perfectly. With one stick i can even OC my Q9550 to 471x8.5 on stock voltage.
I have 5 different sets of ram I have tried:
GSkill Pi 2x2gig ddr2-8800 5-5-5-15 1.8-1.9v
GSkill Black Pi 2x2gig ddr2-6400 4-4-4-12 1.8-1.9v
GSkill 2x1gig ddr2-6400 2BHZs 4-4-4-12 2.1v
Crucial Ballistixs 2x1gig ddr2-6400 double sided modules 4-4-4-12
Crucial Ballistixs 2x1gig ddr2-6400 single sided modules 4-4-4-12 2.2v

All 5 sets pas memtest. All 5 sets do the same thing. 1 stick in it runs fine. both sticks in, it power cycles.
I also have found out other people are having the same issues. You can visit http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...205132&page=61 and www.tweaktown.com to see others with the same issues.

Answer : Do not perform any overclocking and leave all setting at default, are there any issue operating with more than one module at default setting?
We are unable to guarantee any results off from overclocking


From : Chris
Sent : 1/31/2009 23:10
Question : At default clocks it does not run on two modules. I thought it could be my power supply but it is not. I ahve been reading on the xtremesystem forums and tweaktown forums that others are having the exact same issue. I have a rev 1.0 and 1.1 boards with the exact same issue.

Answer : You had also tried lowering the spec of the memory as well?
Try testing with value ram instead of high performance memory also


Question - 712506
From : Chris
Sent : 2/1/2009 06:18
Question : I have lowered my GSkill 8800s to 800mhz speeds and nothing worked. I switched out to my 800mhz ram and it doesnt work.
You are now suggesting I go buy value ram to try and see if it will run on a motherboard made to handles DDR1333?

Answer - 712506
Answer : The chipset can support up to 1333fsb, whether if your memory is fully stable at that particular spec we cannot determine. If you feel the issue is within the board you may send in for us to further examine through the below website


Question - 713893
From : Chris
Sent : 2/4/2009 09:49
Question : If I mail my board to you, are you going to try it with some ram that I have? Or are you going to use some value ram?
I want to know this because I want to see if you can duplicate the issues I am having with my high performance ram and see if there is a solution you can figure out. Since I don't plan to use some value ram, I want to know before i waste my time and money to ship the board to you, that ya'll will look into this ram issue with some ram that is comparable to the one's I own.

Answer - 713893
Answer : We will test with the memory which we have on our lab, we do not have all memory on the market to test with. Since we do not have your memory we are unable to verified your memory


From : Chris
Sent : 2/10/2009 10:22
Question : Are you looking into this issue, as many people are having the same issue as me? Also, any idea of a updated bios or possible beta bios I could try out?

Answer - 716872
Answer : This is not an known issue, since we do not have your memory we cannot determine the stability of your memory which you are using. Do try testing at an lower frequency first to see if it'll improve on stability


Question - 717434
From : Chris
Sent : 2/11/2009 08:24
Question : I have tried running it at 667mhz and it still will not run with 2 sticks of ram. I am capable of getting two sticks to run in single channel mode by using memory slots 1 and 2.

Answer : If you feel that the issue is the board you may send in for further examination. Refer to the below link to submit your rma request
http://rma.gigabyte-usa.com

[radaja]

i just read it from the top down to the bottom and thought to myself, "what the #$#@" are these support guys braindead.then when i got to the bottom i see the statement to start at the bottom,makes more sense now. well here is a good priced UD3P.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-E45UD3P

[OC Nub]

Is there anyone with a UD3R, Q9550, and running 2x2gigs of ram successfully? IF so, could you please post your settings. thanks.

Running G.Skill F2-8500CL5D 2x2gb. Put them in yesterday and doing fine at 1130mhz 5:6devider 471x8.5. Would be glad to post a Palate of my settings for you if someone can tell me how lol. Also ran 2x2gb of mushkin pc28000's no issues other than the ram wouldn't oc.


EDIT: Sorry man i didnt see the ud3r, thought you were on the ud3p.

[clo007]

lol, ok updated chat log to read top to bottom.

I am pissed that they say it is not a known issue but everyday i go to tweaktown there is a new thread about someones UD3P or UD3R not running in dual channel, boot cycling, etc!!!

Thanks for the the link. I was actually on newegg about to buy the UD3P. Has a rebate to make a bit cheaper then the ewiz one. I may get another PSU too, probably the 620HX.


OC nub, thanks but I am looking for people with the UD3R boards.

[Touche]

Sorry if I missed it...have you tried several BIOS versions and another power supply?

[clo007]

Tried f4, f5, f6 all with same results. I have a rev1.0 now and returned the rev 1.1 after it had the same issues. I don't have another PSU. I have talked to alot of people and they say my PSU should be fine. It is over 2 yrs old now, but I can still overclock the hell out of this mobo, proc, and ram(well one stick). I don't see how adding one more stick would make the PSU fail. I am hesitating to buy another PSu just b/c that's another $150 out of pocket if it is not the issue. I am thinking of buying a UD3P this time, and see what happens. IF it fails again, then it will have to be the PSu. At least if I get the UD3P and it doesn't work right, I can return it for a refund again.

[radaja]

513x8 ddr1026 pl9 8GB of ram,4hrs prime 95 blend stable.had to raise some voltages(cpu vcore-1.375 and vtt-1.36 and mch-1.40)to get it stable.

the everest scores are a little low.wondering has any one tried messing with the pull-ins and ups?i want to give it a try but not sure on how to go about it.is there any thing i should know or should i just start advancing them one by one?could use some advice.thanks.

[BuGjAE]

I play a lot to use all my ram kit install in this board total 8 GIG differnce spec as my Sig . found some
weird issue when I reduce Mch Dram Ref to lowest I got more stable. and I try MCH dram Ref set at default (0.9) It's become very unstable for me when I try around 540. Before this result I try a lot to get
540 -545 -550 with all that I can try no hope to success. I 'm not sure how far my RAM can go. Have to test it a lot....next I 'll play with Ch A and Ch B Reference Volt........May be some one can try out this weird stuff.
Note: I back to F4 Bios just only feel It can success easier more than other.

[radaja]

very nice BuGjAE.that is impressive for 8gigs. also thanks for the info on the dram/ref-voltage,im going to mess with this and other things in the bios and see if there are way to gain more stability and maybe squeeze out some more performance with the memory scores.i'll post back my findings.again great job there on that OC

[Ghostleader]

@BuGjAE

Nice everest score

I suppose you need that high MCH core volt, but man that´s high, what´s your temp on that MCH?

I have just below 50C with original heatsink/heatpipe (TIM replaced) at 1,34 with my Q9650@500 4,0GHz and 4x2 ram@1000 555 15.

[BuGjAE]

I think vMCH 1.60 is not high temp with this Board I see only 44 C in ET6 even when full load orthos (may be cause a 2OZ feature???I think),I know it's quiet high but I don't know exeactly what vMCH
should hold 8 GIG PL9 stable ,I 'll down it later.
But I'm confident about MCH/DRAM Reference go lowest It's help me a lot.

[turbotrey]

I have 4 sets of 2x1 DDR2 and none of them work in dual channel.

[radaja]

BuGjAE and Ghostleader,the system temp reading you see in ET6 is not the NB temperature. it seems that the system temp sensor is located near the SB heatsink.i dont think you can tell what the NB temps are unless your on WC and have sensors hooked up.

[EliTE22]

ok here a template for 4GHz and 4.5GHz for now still working on a better 4.6 and 4.7, there really touchy
4GHz real voltage is 1.232v idle and 1.184v load

******Gigabyte EP45 UD3 Template*******


[B]4.00GHz[/B]
Robust Graphics Booster [auto]
CPU Clock Ratio [8x]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [+0.5]

**********Clock Chip Control***************

CPU Host Clock Control [enable]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) [471]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) [100]
C.I.A 2 [disable]

*********Advanced Clock Control**********

CPU Clock Drive [800mv]
PCI Express Clock Drive [800mv]
CPU Clock Skew [0ps]
MCH Clock Skew [0ps]

*******DRAM Performance Control********
[B]ram is set low cause my ram sucks:D[/B]
Performance Enhance [turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) [auto]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch [auto]
System Memory Multipler [2.00B]
Memory Frequency [942]
DRAM Timing Selectable [manual]

CAS Latency Time [5]
tRCD [5]
tRP [5]
tRAS [15]

*******Advanced Timing Control***********
didnt touch ram timings auto
tRRD []
tWTR []
tWR []
tRFC []
tRTP []
Command Rate (cmd) []


***********Motherboard Voltage Control*******

Load-Line Calibration [disabled]
CPU Vcore [1.275V] 
CPU Termination [1.24V]
CPU PLL [1.57V]
CPU Reference [0.825V]

MCH Core [1.34V] 
MCH Reference [0.825v]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [0.950V]
ICH I/O [1.570V]
ICH Core [1.100V]

DRAM Voltage [2.120V]
DRAM Termination [auto]
Channel A Ref [auto]
Channel B Ref [auto]

Channel Timing Settings    [B]didnt change[/B]

Static tRead Value []
tRD Phase0 Adjustment []
tRD Phase1 Adjustment []
tRD Phase2 Adjustment []
tRD Phase3 Adjustment []

tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) []
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) []
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) []
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) []

Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control []
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control []
DDR Write Training []

Channel Driving Settings

Drive Strength Profile []
Data Driving Pull Up Level []
cmd Driving Pull Up Level []
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level []
clk Driving Pull Up Level []

Data Driving Pull Down Level []
cmd Driving Pull Down Level []
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level []
clk Driving Pull Down Level []

*****************Advanced BIOS Features*********

CPU Multithreading []
Limit CPUID Max to 3 []
No-Execute memory Protect []
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE) [disable]
C2/C2E State Support [disable]
C4/C4E State Support [disable]
CPU Thermal Monitor [enable]
CPU EIST Function [disable]
Virtualization Technology [enable] 

[/QUOTE]

4.5GHz real voltage is 1.408v idle and load LLC enabled

******Gigabyte EP45 UD3 Template*******

4.5GHz

Robust Graphics Booster [auto]
CPU Clock Ratio [8x]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [+0.5]

**********Clock Chip Control***************

CPU Host Clock Control [enable]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) [530]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) [100]
C.I.A 2 [disable]

*********Advanced Clock Control**********

CPU Clock Drive [800]
PCI Express Clock Drive [800]
CPU Clock Skew [0ps]
MCH Clock Skew [0ps]

*******DRAM Performance Control********

Performance Enhance [turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) [auto]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch [auto]
System Memory Multipler [2.00B]
Memory Frequency [1060]
DRAM Timing Selectable [manual]

CAS Latency Time [5]
tRCD [5]
tRP [5]
tRAS [15]

*******Advanced Timing Control***********
didnt touch ram timings auto
tRRD []
tWTR []
tWR []
tRFC []
tRTP []
Command Rate (cmd) []


***********Motherboard Voltage Control*******

Load-Line Calibration [enable]
CPU Vcore [1.44375V] 
CPU Termination [1.420V]
CPU PLL [1.610V]
CPU Reference [0.899V]

MCH Core [1..520V] 
MCH Reference [0.939]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [1.140V]
ICH I/O [1.570V]
ICH Core [1.200V]

DRAM Voltage [2.160V]
DRAM Termination [auto]
Channel A Ref [auto]
Channel B Ref [auto]

Channel Timing Settings    [B]didnt change[/B]

Static tRead Value []
tRD Phase0 Adjustment []
tRD Phase1 Adjustment []
tRD Phase2 Adjustment []
tRD Phase3 Adjustment []

tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) []
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) []
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) []
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) []

Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control []
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control []
DDR Write Training []

Channel Driving Settings

Drive Strength Profile []
Data Driving Pull Up Level []
cmd Driving Pull Up Level []
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level []
clk Driving Pull Up Level []

Data Driving Pull Down Level []
cmd Driving Pull Down Level []
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level []
clk Driving Pull Down Level []

*****************Advanced BIOS Features*********

CPU Multithreading []
Limit CPUID Max to 3 []
No-Execute memory Protect []
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE) [disable]
C2/C2E State Support [disable]
C4/C4E State Support [disable]
CPU Thermal Monitor [enable]
CPU EIST Function [disable]
Virtualization Technology [enable] 

[/QUOTE]
just a side note but i was sometimes unable to use the same reference (cpu, mch, mch/dram) voltage based on the order i change the setting's and after reboot would sometime change the reference voltage above is after testing for 100% stable for hours and rebooting multiple times
hope this helps someone
cheers

[NghtShd]

I have 2 of the same motherboard, a rev 1.0 and a rev 1.1 with the exact same issue. NO matter what I do, or what kind of ram or size of the modules, I can only run 1 stick.
If I try to install both sticks, my computer just power cycles, never getting to the bios screen. As soon as I pull a stick out and run 1 stick, it boots up perfectly. With one stick i can even OC my Q9550 to 471x8.5 on stock voltage.
I have 5 different sets of ram I have tried:
GSkill Pi 2x2gig ddr2-8800 5-5-5-15 1.8-1.9v
GSkill Black Pi 2x2gig ddr2-6400 4-4-4-12 1.8-1.9v
GSkill 2x1gig ddr2-6400 2BHZs 4-4-4-12 2.1v
Crucial Ballistixs 2x1gig ddr2-6400 double sided modules 4-4-4-12
Crucial Ballistixs 2x1gig ddr2-6400 single sided modules 4-4-4-12 2.2v

All 5 sets pas memtest. All 5 sets do the same thing. 1 stick in it runs fine. both sticks in, it power cycles.

I'm inclined to think that it's not the board. You've had 2 boards with different revisions and both with the same issue with 5 different sets of RAM. If the board was that picky, one would think this problem would be much more widespread.

There is the fact that you've only used RAM from Crucial and G.Skill and , as I recall, others have had problems with Ballistix sticks, but I believe lots of people are using various G.Skill sets successfully.

[clo007]

I find it odd though that I can't run at stock speeds with 2 sticks of ram, but I can run with 1 stick at over 4ghz with ease. And there are quite a few people over at the tweaktown forums having the same issue as me.

[nugzo]

I currently am using a EK NB/SB 5 chipset block on my northbridge. Helps temps somewhat (I still get 40°C+).

How do you know what your NB temps are? There is no NB temp sensor.

[radaja]

thats what i was wondering?