Too big for SS?

**sdumper** · 02-09-2009, 01:58 PM

My 1HP Copeland Compressors arrived are they too big for a SS?

**[XC] gomeler** · 02-09-2009, 01:59 PM

Lol I hope that isn't a serious question

Those things are monsters

**sdumper** · 02-09-2009, 02:02 PM

LOL they really are very big compressors

**quintus** · 02-09-2009, 02:13 PM

Ideal for autocascade with r23 in final stage, nehalem killerrrrrrrrrrrrr

**teyber** · 02-09-2009, 03:58 PM

give it a shot dude!

**[XC] gomeler** · 02-09-2009, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by quintus

Ideal for autocascade with r23 in final stage, nehalem killerrrrrrrrrrrrr

R23? Why aim so low? R600/R290/R1150 would be my gas of choice

Perhaps after my attempt at the Stage 1 autocascade I'll have to try with one of these babies.

**EliTE22** · 02-09-2009, 05:12 PM

too big, no way

, u ever see drewmeister ss 1hp

, would make sweet cascades, maybe r1150/r14

**aenigma** · 02-09-2009, 06:06 PM

Oooh nice looks like the compressor in my autocascade. It's a Copeland RF41C5E-CAA-250 I believe.

Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

R23? Why aim so low? R600/R290/R1150 would be my gas of choice

Perhaps after my attempt at the Stage 1 autocascade I'll have to try with one of these babies.

Tell me about it, I would love to use R1150 in mine. Actually, I would love to add something like R14 to the mix and add another HX if I am going to dream! I just can't get anything good around here.

**s0lid** · 02-09-2009, 10:43 PM

14x 1HP compressors

Time to fire up the torch and start brazing some neat autocascade from one of em

**quintus** · 02-10-2009, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

R23? Why aim so low? R600/R290/R1150 would be my gas of choice

Perhaps after my attempt at the Stage 1 autocascade I'll have to try with one of these babies.

You mean why aim so high in the capacity of the autocascade

r23 is higher temp(-82C if i remember well) and much higher mass than etylene.

http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/E...a.asp?GasID=66

350watt super overcloked nehalem at -60c or lower ...

**sdumper** · 02-10-2009, 05:56 AM

You know whats weird...they shipped me these on a pallet (weight 625 lbs) for $150.00 half way across the country in less than 4 days. They arrived in perfect condition with just a cardboard top covering them.

I'm assuming I could also ship an SS or Cascade across the country for this price or lower just as fast and treated even better if I mark it as fragile.
Let me get the name of the shipping company off my receipt and Ill give you guys the name and number tonight in case you need to ship something.

**[XC] gomeler** · 02-10-2009, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by quintus

You mean why aim so high in the capacity of the autocascade

r23 is higher temp(-82C if i remember well) and much higher mass than etylene.

http://encyclopedia.airliquide.com/E...a.asp?GasID=66

350watt super overcloked nehalem at -60c or lower ...

350 watt is ungodly oversized. I'd rather have 225w @ -80C(with R1150)

Originally Posted by sdumper

You know whats weird...they shipped me these on a pallet (weight 625 lbs) for $150.00 half way across the country in less than 4 days. They arrived in perfect condition with just a cardboard top covering them.

I'm assuming I could also ship an SS or Cascade across the country for this price or lower just as fast and treated even better if I mark it as fragile.
Let me get the name of the shipping company off my receipt and Ill give you guys the name and number tonight in case you need to ship something.

Please do, I'll have to ship my cascade soon and I'd like to ship it on a pallet.

**s0lid** · 02-10-2009, 08:19 AM

Just an my opinnion for gasses:
R290/R744/R14 blend, will this even work?

**[XC] gomeler** · 02-10-2009, 08:34 AM

Why even include R744 and risk dry ice issues? Just use R600/R170/R14. My basic understanding of autocascades makes me think this should work. A non-combustible blend would be R123/R23/R14. Just a guess, but I'm pretty sure I've similar blends before.

**Moc** · 02-10-2009, 08:39 AM

sdumper has build one single stage and you advice him to build a autocascade...

**s0lid** · 02-10-2009, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

Why even include R744 and risk dry ice issues? Just use R600/R170/R14. My basic understanding of autocascades makes me think this should work. A non-combustible blend would be R123/R23/R14. Just a guess, but I'm pretty sure I've similar blends before.

Oh yea the Dry ice, didn't remember that is made from co2.

R600, yea should be cheap :]
Btw are those R170 and R14 expensive, as generally?

POE should work as oil perfectly...

Sdumper, those are 115V machines right?

**sdumper** · 02-10-2009, 10:01 AM

Yes they are 115v...

**[XC] gomeler** · 02-10-2009, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Moc

sdumper has build one single stage and you advice him to build a autocascade...

I'm not advising him to. I'm saying these would be suitable candidates.

Originally Posted by s0lid

Oh yea the Dry ice, didn't remember that is made from co2.

R600, yea should be cheap :]
Btw are those R170 and R14 expensive, as generally?

POE should work as oil perfectly...

Sdumper, those are 115V machines right?

All hydrocarbons for me are dirt cheap compared to "legit" refrigerations. R600/R290/R170/R1150 all cost a fraction of what R123/R22/R23/R14 cost and I never have issues with "I'm sorry but these are for industrial applications at this time due to low supply" as I got with R14(apparently it's used in the semiconductor industry).

**sdumper** · 02-10-2009, 11:52 AM

Road map for me is another SS, A few repairs of two broken SS units I have sitting and gathering dust, a simple cascade and then ill figure out what my limits are and what I might do next.
This is a hobby for me and nothing more serious

**sdumper** · 02-10-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by sdumper

You know whats weird...they shipped me these on a pallet (weight 625 lbs) for $150.00 half way across the country in less than 4 days. They arrived in perfect condition with just a cardboard top covering them.

I'm assuming I could also ship an SS or Cascade across the country for this price or lower just as fast and treated even better if I mark it as fragile.
Let me get the name of the shipping company off my receipt and Ill give you guys the name and number tonight in case you need to ship something.

As promised:

www.estes-express.com

770-919-2181

**jcool** · 02-10-2009, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

350 watt is ungodly oversized. I'd rather have 225w @ -80C(with R1150)

Did you try Nehalem yet?

225W will get you absolutely nowhere. Hell, 225W wouldn't have been enough for my old Q6600. 300W is easy with i7 at around 4,5Ghz fully loaded (/w HT)

**teyber** · 02-10-2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by jcool

Did you try Nehalem yet?

225W will get you absolutely nowhere. Hell, 225W wouldn't have been enough for my old Q6600. 300W is easy with i7 at around 4,5Ghz fully loaded (/w HT)

im not sure what "watts" you mean by, when a builder talks watts he is talking watts from a cartridge heater not the calculated heat loads from computers

im just curious as to that type of watts your refering to, Not trying to discredit you at all

the best north and south american builder in my eyes, drewmeister, told me to tune for "230w for a heavily oc'd q6600"

**jcool** · 02-11-2009, 04:46 AM

Oh okay lol. I was talking about heat output from the CPU, didn't know you guys calculated differently. Good thing I don't build phase units myself ain't it

So how does this translate to actual numbers then? If you say you tune for 230W, how much heat can the CPU generate before the unit collapses?

**Big SturL** · 02-11-2009, 04:51 AM

They are talking about the heat output from a CPU.

**jcool** · 02-11-2009, 04:57 AM

Well then 230W ain't nearly enough. I don't know a lot about phase building, but I do know my unit is tuned for 280W and I can collapse it rather easily with the i7 running prime at very high speeds and >1,5V Vcore.

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