Real Power Consumption - 4870 X2 & GTX295 out of Spec!

[STEvil]

No, I would say pure electric cars. Hybrid cars and cars like the volt is just a joke. There is a plan here in Denmark to have 100000(From TV news) pure electric cars running in 2011 together with an american organization and the biggest power company here. I´m not sure how many cars there are here. Something around 1 or 1½million.

http://www.betterplace.com/press-roo...oduce-environm
http://earth2tech.com/2009/01/27/bet...c-car-project/
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009...-place-do.html

The key would be standardlized batteries. Cars will have a 160km(100miles) range on a charge. And charging stations would simply swap battery. Its faster than putting fuel on your car today. You can ofcourse also charge it at home.

And how is the electricity generated.

Will the current installed electrical grid supply the demand?

[Sparky]

And how is the electricity generated.

Will the current installed electrical grid supply the demand?

That's the big issue right now. A bunch of all-electric cars would put an enormous strain on the power grid.

[dieqast]

And how is the electricity generated.

Will the current installed electrical grid supply the demand?

Just wait, electricity will be rendered from...

[Nanometer]

Just wait, electricity will be rendered from...

hahaha that pretty much explains it all.. stuff like this gets ridiculous...

[Shintai]

And how is the electricity generated.

Will the current installed electrical grid supply the demand?

Mainly windmills at night. And then there is hydropower from norway aswell at night. Both are "uncontrolled" and thereby having large excess capacities at night and with windmills also when its very windy.

Its calculated that 700 windmills can keep the entire danish carpark running on electricity. Even making gas into electricity is a large plant would be more efficient that out in the car

But again, we also burn biofuel for CO2 neutrality. So its a win/win.

[Slay0r]

Mainly windmills at night. And then there is hydropower from norway aswell at night. Both are "uncontrolled" and thereby having large excess capacities at night and with windmills also when its very windy.

Its calculated that 700 windmills can keep the entire danish carpark running on electricity. Even making gas into electricity is a large plant would be more efficient that out in the car

But again, we also burn biofuel for CO2 neutrality. So its a win/win.

I'm sorry but the electric/hybrid car market is a big joke. Mainly because the arabs won't let an actual substitute for gas on the market, because that means less money for them. This may sound very childish and/or unlikely but you just have to look at the amount of good ideas for "clean" energy that get thrown in the bin for unclear reasons.

Look at what we have now. electric cheapo cars that won't even do 100mph and that will run out of battery charge in less than 100miles. Or that failure of the hybrid prius, which gets its ass spanked by the newer 1.3/1.4l diesels in terms of mpg and performance. The market REALLY does want you to overlook the green cars as of now.

Back on topic, I'm sure the cards weren't designed to run a very heavy stress test. If you game/render/work on them and they overheat, then that's another matter. AND if they draw double than what they're advertised to draw, then you have the right to complain. I mean, just look at how big the stock gfx cooling solutions are getting.. Soon we'll need a case with its own airflow just for the card itself. The problem is that both NV and AMD will not back down on their specs/anything, since we still buy them no matter what they draw, because they're the best of their league..

[Shintai]

I'm sorry but the electric/hybrid car market is a big joke. Mainly because the arabs won't let an actual substitute for gas on the market, because that means less money for them. This may sound very childish and/or unlikely but you just have to look at the amount of good ideas for "clean" energy that get thrown in the bin for unclear reasons.

Look at what we have now. electric cheapo cars that won't even do 100mph and that will run out of battery charge in less than 100miles. Or that failure of the hybrid prius, which gets its ass spanked by the newer 1.3/1.4l diesels in terms of mpg and performance. The market REALLY does want you to overlook the green cars as of now.

Back on topic, I'm sure the cards weren't designed to run a very heavy stress test. If you game/render/work on them and they overheat, then that's another matter. AND if they draw double than what they're advertised to draw, then you have the right to complain. I mean, just look at how big the stock gfx cooling solutions are getting.. Soon we'll need a case with its own airflow just for the card itself. The problem is that both NV and AMD will not back down on their specs/anything, since we still buy them no matter what they draw, because they're the best of their league..

First fo all. Arabs have nothing to say. This is something the entire country is geared towards. Secondly I think you failed to understand the concept of the bettery changing stations. Its no different than putting gas on your car. Its just faster with the battery change.

And hybrids was always a joke. Same reason the Volt is an utter disaster (But thats just how GM works and why they can never be saved). Pure electric is the way. Plus a gas/diesel engine is so horrible in efficiency that you can get twice the power by putting the fuel into a powerplant, convert it to electricty and then charge a battery and use it in a car.

In terms of the power consumption. Furmark is not really a power virus. And even if, can the GPUs throttle when they overheat? The answer is no.

Its seen ebfore, atleast with older nVidia cards that drivers+game pushed the GPUs beyond their limits. And there is artificial limits in both nVidia and AMD drivers to keep games running within the power profile.

[Slay0r]

First fo all. Arabs have nothing to say. This is something the entire country is geared towards. Secondly I think you failed to understand the concept of the bettery changing stations. Its no different than putting gas on your car. Its just faster with the battery change.

Well.. My thought was generalized to the world as a whole, I wasn't referring to one country, not yours so to speak, since I frankly don't know what goes on over there in particular because I'm not documented enough! I can just take your word for it. As for the battery changing thing, I replied down below.

And hybrids was always a joke. Same reason the Volt is an utter disaster (But thats just how GM works and why they can never be saved). Pure electric is the way. Plus a gas/diesel engine is so horrible in efficiency that you can get twice the power by putting the fuel into a powerplant, convert it to electricty and then charge a battery and use it in a car.

While to an extent we may agree here, I'd rather have a not so efficient diesel that can do 1000miles with one tank of fuel rather than have to stop every tenth of that to swap batteries!

In terms of the power consumption. Furmark is not really a power virus. And even if, can the GPUs throttle when they overheat? The answer is no.

Its seen ebfore, atleast with older nVidia cards that drivers+game pushed the GPUs beyond their limits. And there is artificial limits in both nVidia and AMD drivers to keep games running within the power profile.

I don't know enough about power castration within the driver to elaborate a proper comment on this, but it doesn't sound completely true. If it was the case, overclocking would give gains until the power profile maximum is reached, then start being useless. Is this the case or I'm misunderstanding your reasoning?

[Shintai]

I don't know enough about power castration within the driver to elaborate a proper comment on this, but it doesn't sound completely true. If it was the case, overclocking would give gains until the power profile maximum is reached, then start being useless. Is this the case or I'm misunderstanding your reasoning?

Misunderstood it. Power profiling would not have any effect on overclocking.

To put it short. 9 work, 1 idle. If you does it 10 times per second or 1billion times per second doesnt change the power profile.