Attention Dead Micron D9 Owners

[LennyRhys]

I'm still not sure whether or not my memory is "fixed" - first boot this morning resulted in a long beep with C1 code which is a memory error, then my mobo went to safe mode (800mhz 5-5-5-15) so I had to manually set it to 950mhz 4-3-4-10 again. It's working fine now but I'm dubious about my most recent kit. Perhaps the freezer can make it better for a while, but if the previous owner had this kit at 2.5v for extended benching sessions, that's a bit of a death sentence. Still waiting to hear from him.

[LennyRhys]

It's not quite as bad as I expected, but still a bit unnerving - the previous owner ran the memory at 960MHz 4-4-4-12 with 2.3v for over a year. I'm thinking he just didn't need all that voltage for that speed, seeing that in my system his memory can do 960MHz 4-3-4-10 on under 2.2v. If I get any more trouble from it, it's going back in the freezer for 24 hours. After that, I'm gonna hope for the best.

[rjlewis86]

What about chlling it to a lower temp ? Dice ? LN2 ?

[S_G]

How did I miss this thread? *scurries off to throw his dead Ballistix in a freezer*

[chew*]

Experiment 1.

MY WR 2600 pro's memory crapped out in my friends rig at stock volts stock clocks due to lack of ventilation ( dust blocking the heatsink) cores still clock fine ram won't clock at all, lost 125mhz.

Removed heatsink, heated up to normal operating temps via a Hairdryer, Placed in zip lock and tossed in freezer....We shall see what happens....Doing 1 at a time...

It's uses quimonda 2.5's ddr2....

[[XC] Oj101]

I've heard 200C for 20 mins. I'm glad I didn't need to bake mine, but the hair dryer on full blast made them very hot, far too hot to touch.

I had my success at 180'c but 200'c should be just as good. Bare in mind that anything over about 50'c is hot to the touch, so your RAM probably didn't get very hot. I reckon the cold did it for you

[LennyRhys]

Absolutely - and it took only four hours. After hearing that the previous owner had them at 2.3v for 14 months, I'm not in the least bit bothered taking them to 2.175v, which up till now I've been wary of. Just below 2.2v allows me 4-3-3-10 at 950MHz, which is perfect for me.

This thread should earn you some sort of honour on the forum lol. Many thanks.

[xdrift0rx]

one quick question before i do this, do you do it with your headspreaders on or off????????? i dont know how important that is. (heating them up that is)

[zsamz_]

Absolutely - and it took only four hours. After hearing that the previous owner had them at 2.3v for 14 months, I'm not in the least bit bothered taking them to 2.175v, which up till now I've been wary of. Just below 2.2v allows me 4-3-3-10 at 950MHz, which is perfect for me.

This thread should earn you some sort of honour on the forum lol. Many thanks.

just dont forget your 680i is infamous for killing d9
dont set ram drive level to strong

[xdrift0rx]

well i just tried this with my mushkin and it saved it. i can run up to 548mhz (i could do that before) and this is just a run @ the fastest speeds i can do it with..when i run it @ 487mhz the speeds are only in the 8000's across the board.



thank you for the fix! i think i'll stick with my black Pi though because they like running @ the same speeds at 4-4-4-10 1T! good to have an extra set around though as backup.

[l33t p1mp]

Ooh, this is bookmarked! I know mine will fail soon, they have been running for almost a year at 2.2 volts.

[Ubermann]

*UPDATE!!!*

I took them out after 20min and as steady as i am today i dropped them on the floor again just ones they came out from oven LOL!
I used one of those hmm pressure things you use when you glue wood and such, BMF with other words.
BUT 1 stick is running again!!! LOL!!!!
Have done it again with the other one and put it in the freezer with pressure still applied.
Will test it soon..
The stick that lost all chips will be tried also but aligning it to correct posistion on the PCB before i put it to oven will be VERY difficult i guess.
Thanks whoever posted the info about the oven trick! I will come sleep with you next week.
*END UPDATE*

Wtf is wrong with todays RAM ??
I been off from computing some years but to make a short story even shorter:
I dropped one RAM to the floor and picked it up, but the heatspreader fell off and took all chips with it.
Then i got 2 ballistix D9 and waited until yesterday to try them on.
They have both been working before and i tried to take a peak at the chips but the glue seemed strong and i didnt wanna bend the heatspreader to much.
Put them into comp and the refuse to start.
So i took a closer look and noticed that 1 chip is loose on both of them, so i guess that little peak i took killed them ?!
Not fully loose but you can see the chip moving a little when bending on the heatspreader.
Im not nice to hardware but i never ruin them either well at least until now.

Never seen this before..is it so very bad quality on them today ?
The stick that lost every chip has somewhat like 50/50 hit on what lost the connection some from the chips and some from the PCB.
I clamped them now under a little pressure and have them in oven, will check if i can reconnect the solderpoints.

[chew*]

LMFAO my 2600 Pro # 1 is back from the dead, doing 525 ram again NO ARTIFACTS where it would only do 450 yesterday max and with artifacts 400 stable. I just tossed the other one in the freezer.

Today at stock clocks on cpu and less system ram 650 core/525 ram.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9843248

2 days ago when they were screwed and could only do 600core/400 ram paired with a PH 2 @ 4.0gig
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9820519

[LennyRhys]

I've put my Cellshok 8000 C4s back in the freezer. Even though they worked totally fine, I'd have to restart my PC three times to get to desktop, after which I'd have no problems even with heavy stress testing - prime for two hours without a hitch.

Will be taking it out again tomorrow evening, so about 36 hours ice time.

[zsamz_]

I've put my Cellshok 8000 C4s back in the freezer. Even though they worked totally fine, I'd have to restart my PC three times to get to desktop, after which I'd have no problems even with heavy stress testing - prime for two hours without a hitch.

Will be taking it out again tomorrow evening, so about 36 hours ice time.

you should not put them in if they were fine

[sno.lcn]

My Team Xtreem sticks are starting to get a little degraded, guess I'll leave them in the freezer tonight

Wondering if I can just dip them in some LN2 for the same effect?

[[XC] Oj101]

Absolutely - and it took only four hours. After hearing that the previous owner had them at 2.3v for 14 months, I'm not in the least bit bothered taking them to 2.175v, which up till now I've been wary of. Just below 2.2v allows me 4-3-3-10 at 950MHz, which is perfect for me.

This thread should earn you some sort of honour on the forum lol. Many thanks.

Great to hear PM one of the admins if you think I need some sort of honour I'm just glad to help.

one quick question before i do this, do you do it with your headspreaders on or off????????? i dont know how important that is. (heating them up that is)

I left the spreaders on every time

just dont forget your 680i is infamous for killing d9
dont set ram drive level to strong

Drive strengths, I love them Killed a few TCCDs with my NF4 and drive strenghts.

well i just tried this with my mushkin and it saved it. i can run up to 548mhz (i could do that before) and this is just a run @ the fastest speeds i can do it with..when i run it @ 487mhz the speeds are only in the 8000's across the board.

thank you for the fix! i think i'll stick with my black Pi though because they like running @ the same speeds at 4-4-4-10 1T! good to have an extra set around though as backup.

It's my pleasure

Ooh, this is bookmarked! I know mine will fail soon, they have been running for almost a year at 2.2 volts.

2.2v is rather high for 24/7 Remember to report back once you've tried to bring them back from the dead.

LMFAO my 2600 Pro # 1 is back from the dead, doing 525 ram again NO ARTIFACTS where it would only do 450 yesterday max and with artifacts 400 stable. I just tossed the other one in the freezer.

Today at stock clocks on cpu and less system ram 650 core/525 ram.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9843248

2 days ago when they were screwed and could only do 600core/400 ram paired with a PH 2 @ 4.0gig
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9820519

That's the third card

My Team Xtreem sticks are starting to get a little degraded, guess I'll leave them in the freezer tonight

Wondering if I can just dip them in some LN2 for the same effect?

I think the shock of a sudden 200'c drop might not be good for them. Report back

[LennyRhys]

I put my Cell Shocks in the freezer for another 30 hours and unfortunately they still don't like to work first go. They are fine now, but it took me 5 minutes to get my PC up and running. The freezing thing can't have hurt though.

[okorn]

Worked fine with my SuperTalent 1Gb 800Mhz!

Thanxs!

[okorn]

How did you clean the ram after his method?

[LennyRhys]

Clean the ram? I put it in foil, then in the freezer, and when I took it out I gave it a once over with a hair dryer. Good to go.

[Nanometer]

Clean the ram? I put it in foil, then in the freezer, and when I took it out I gave it a once over with a hair dryer. Good to go.

yea, this actually a pretty good method. I typically havent had good results with booting up with freezing d9 chips. however when i heated them up with a heater they were good to go.

[chew*]

Second 2600 pro card is back from the dead for the most part, stuck at 400 ram other day now does 520 ram, used to do 525.......I'm not complaining though

730core/520 ram No tweaks.......
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9863436

43 points away from my current WR and at stock clocks on CPU.

[chew*]

Kudos to OP My 2600's are on fire again. To bad this didn't fix my d9's

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...63&postcount=1

[HDCHOPPER]

I've put my Cellshok 8000 C4s back in the freezer. Even though they worked totally fine, I'd have to restart my PC three times to get to desktop, after which I'd have no problems even with heavy stress testing - prime for two hours without a hitch.

Will be taking it out again tomorrow evening, so about 36 hours ice time.

lol does freezing them alone help mhz ?