How does it overclock compared to the 940BE.
I've seen some pics showing it overclocking to 4.0 under 1.55 volts.
Yet some show it needing 1.5 volt for 3.6 and that being around the maximum.
Also how does it perform for gaming is it better worse or on par with an overclocked q6600?
Some reviews show it slower at all resolutions compared to essentially all intel processors. Yet other's show it winning in minimum framerates and faster at higher resolutions.
I have been impressed with my 920, with 1 multi lower on the NB than whats in the picture It is game stable.
EDIT: oops no NB in pic but it is at 2560.
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Yea but... intel runs super pie better.
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I may be blind, but what Volts is your CPU running, and is your HTT bus stable at that 24/7?! on an Asrock no less? I m thinking of getting a gigabyte gx ds4, and really only want to push my proc to 3.7-3.8 stable on air, and have been weighing the merits of a 940 vs 920 given that... This is leaning to 920 it seems. How hot do your mosfets get with that htt / nb?I have been impressed with my 920, with 1 multi lower on the NB than whats in the picture It is game stable.
EDIT: oops no NB in pic but it is at 2560.
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CPU is at 1.5 there but I have since found that 1.45 works. My HT bus has been tested stable on my board to 302mhz and the HTT has givin me no problems at all.
The AsRock board is actualy a very good board. I put Ramsinks on the fets and they stay cool to the touch when running prime.
Unless your wanting to do allot of extreme overclocking/benching and need the flexability of the BE, the 920 will clock to the same avarage 24/7 OC that the 940 will. Its a good alternative.
Also the AsRock board is 1 of the only 2 board that I know of that has working ACC with PhII and it helps with lower volts.
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So it overclocks just as good as 940 with similar voltage.
Guess it must not take much power if you can stress test it with only ramsinks on the mosfets...Matter in fact that's one of my worries blowing mosfets or the northbridge since most amd motherboards don't have good board cooling yet.
you can see here from the IES utility that when clocked to around the average useres OC with high volts it drawes less than 80w on the 4 cpu phases when loaded %100.
Copper Ramsinks on Fets.
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What did you have the northbridge and hypertransport at for that?
I would think a 2,200-2,400 hypertransport with 2,400-2,800 northbridge would put more stress on the Nb and mosfet heatsinks. Not sure if it'd draw alot more power bumping the nb volts up some.
NB@ 2560 and HT@ 2000. I dont have anyway to measure the 5th NB phase but surely it would not be as much as the 4 cpu phases. The mosfets realy do stay rather cool to the touch.
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So given that the Asrock does so well , do you think the GA-MA790GP-DS4H would handle those HTT clocks just as easily as it comes with cooling on the the mosfets etc? what was the other board that works well with ACC for phII ? Cant seem to find your board on the egg (canadian anyways :P )
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I am running a 920 on 3.5 (1.45v) 24/7. Runs way smoother then my previous 9750+ @ 2.8ghz. Max clock i could get was 3.8ghz.
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What temps are you getting on your 24/7? and how much voltage did you have to push through to get 3.8?
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I have seen allot of good things from that Gigabyte board but I have never used it. I have both of Gigabytes 790FX boards and they are great. The other board with working ACC with PHII is a DFI board.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
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When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
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24/7 temp tops at 48 i think. 1.55v was used to get it at 3.8.
What cooler did you use to get that 48 celcius?
Scythe ninja with 2 fans on it. In a CM690 case.
My 920 will hit 3.7 on my cheapo scythe katana ii but its not stable due to how hot it gets. At 3.5 with 1.51v, the katana ii can barely keep it cool when idle. As soon as its taxed it spikes to 55-58 c and after 5 minutes its above 60c. For now, I have it running at 3.2 on all stock volts. It idles at 35-38c and full load is around 50c. Once I get my water setup in a couple months I'm planning to run 3.6-3.7 24/7. The thought of using a $60 heatsink with a loud high RPM 120mm fan(s) is not something I'm willing to do. I kinda built my rig for quietness (see rig in sig). Water FTW. I think the 920 is a huge bargain and people are overlooking it simply because it doesn't have an unlocked multiplier. I absolutely have no regrets about going with the 920.
Here is a 3.2GHz (all stock volts) run with my GTX at 720mhz.
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Seems like you guys are getting pretty decent clocks, but being out of the AMD loop since my FX-57 I m wondering will there be a higher chance of board failure pushing the htt to 260-265 for 24/7. Seems like phenom II's sweet spot is about 3.7ghz ish Temp Wise for Good aircooling, so would a black edition be a better choice for longevity of the mobo? My goal is 3.7ghz, 2400nb with 8gb of 1066 5-5-5-12. realistic on a 920? I know its chip dependant, but i m looking to cool it with a ocz vendetta 2, and going to have an antec 900 with 2 104cfm fans on the heatsink.. :P
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realy I dont see any diffrence. I havent raised the voltage on anything at all other then the CPU itself so I dont think the high HT is a issue. Everything stays cool on the board tho I did add heatsinks as you see.
The one thing I am noticing is that It looks like in general that the 940 has been binned for its NB speeds. The 920's NB seem to take allot more volts to be stable then the 940's.
I only chose the 920 as there is more tweaking involved than just upping the multi's and not very many people were going with the 920.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Awesome info
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Im running my NB at 2560mhz 24/7 at the same voltage as CPU core....1.45v. after about 2200 the default volts are not stable. If i clock the core above 3.75 then the NB becomes unstable at this setting.Awesome info
Last edited by G0ldBr1ck; 02-03-2009 at 05:21 PM.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
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