Official DFI LanParty UT X38-T2R(and LT) Discussion/Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

[zsamz_]

Oh, so you think it's not the board but my unproper hands?
It makes me hope

To be honest I didn't try any GTL or other tweaks. Only voltages were changed from default settings, all other was in auto. Ok, I'll try GTL and other things.

You know, I have one more problem - with the memory.
I have quite good 4x1Gb sticks with D9GMH, 8-layer PCB. But they want to run 1200 only with 2.3v, and even at this voltage they are not fully stable.
Also as I know many of them (CSX) may run 1200 fully stable only at 2.1v.
But here I've tried alot different timings and other memory settings. No progress.
What may you recommend to check at first?

I gonna check these DIMMs on P5Q-E too, but only net week.

gtls on auto you lucky if you can do 505fsb

i can do 500fsb 4x1 d9gmh memory @ 1200 2.05v
the right gtl setting helps using less voltage
like i said u need to learn the board
if you want easy use your p5q

[rioja]

zsamz, reading this thread i've found your answer from march '08

my cpu dose that too i cant get it past 500mhz but i know that it can since i got it used from sniipe_dogg and he had it at 540 posting when i asked before he shipped it, over 500 is just missing something i need to put in

no man missin nothin its the damn board lol

i wanna just see 1 just 1 of those geniuses from dfi get past 560

i just tested my cpu on my p35 and i booted straight into windows @ 575

and nb is undervolting by 0.04 better chek yours with dmm

so here you agree that the problem of passing 500 is exist.
and it could be simply board failure regardless settings itself.
correct?

[zsamz_]

so here you agree that the problem of passing 500 is exist.
and it could be simply board failure regardless settings itself.
correct?

even my son can do 540fsb on the board
the only problem with the board is after 550fsb
i can boot to windows @ 550 100% stable

[deadman'sclick]

but are u talking single channel zsamz lol

[zanzabar]

its all about gtl, i could post to 530 but not get to windows.

[zsamz_]

but are u talking single channel zsamz lol

i never do single channel unless i'm testin bad stix
ive done 510fsb with 4 sticks stable
max was around 520 with 4 stix
i havent used my x38 in a long while only cause my ut p35 is faster
i was gonna sell my x38 but i kept it for when i go crossfire

[kitfit1]

zsamz is correct. If you want to go faster you will be better off with a P35. If you you want to go even faster still, then get a UT-P45.

A look at the 4.7ghz link in my sig, and you will see 4 sticks of ram running at 563 fsb 24/7 stable.

The ONLY real reason for sticking with the X38/X48 platform, is if you must have 2x16 Pcie lanes. Even then the P45 will run Xfire at 2x8 Pcie lanes, not much of a loss to be honest.

[rioja]

The ONLY real reason for sticking with the X38/X48 platform, is if you must have 2x16 Pcie lanes. Even then the P45 will run Xfire at 2x8 Pcie lanes, not much of a loss to be honest.

I would say that the only real reason for having x38 is that some ppl have it already, and cannot afford for some reasons to change it.
What a hell, previous p35 was good, look at screen
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/447022.png
next p45 is even better
but this crappy board with its 500 fsb wall seems to be one of the worst dfi mobo
not talking about issues like incompability with 3870x2
enthusiast segment heh

[Shiranui Gen-An]

The Rampage Extreme and DK T2RSB+ prove that the X48 chipset can clock past 500 FSB, it just seems that the LT/UT X48 is weak in that area.

[S_G]

I did past 500 FSB on my LT X38 just fine, though I got rid of it a few months back. Have they changed the BIOS or something?

[zsamz_]

I would say that the only real reason for having x38 is that some ppl have it already, and cannot afford for some reasons to change it.
What a hell, previous p35 was good, look at screen
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/447022.png
next p45 is even better
but this crappy board with its 500 fsb wall seems to be one of the worst dfi mobo
not talking about issues like incompability with 3870x2
enthusiast segment heh

even if you run a p35 or p45 you gonna have the same problem
dfi boards need manual selection of gtl settings after 500fsb
the dfi x38 is a good board i bet you any $ i can take your board to 540fsb in 10 minutes
the problem is the utp35 and the ut-p45 are perfection

[rioja]

dfi boards need manual selection of gtl settings after 500fsb
the dfi x38 is a good board i bet you any $ i can take your board to 540fsb in 10 minutes

with multiplier x6, max fsb i was able to get into the bios is 525
max fsb i was able to run super pi is 515, not fully stable though



what voltages on PLL, NB, VTT are required to run 520 and higher (with 4x1gb ram)?

well, i agree that the fsb limit on this board is near 530-540, but will be it fully stable at high multiplier 9 or 10?
and will be mobo voltages safe for running 24/7?

[zsamz_]

with multiplier x6, max fsb i was able to get into the bios is 525
max fsb i was able to run super pi is 515, not fully stable though



what voltages on PLL, NB, VTT are required to run 520 and higher (with 4x1gb ram)?

well, i agree that the fsb limit on this board is near 530-540, but will be it fully stable at high multiplier 9 or 10?
and will be mobo voltages safe for running 24/7?

i hope you know how tough it is for a board to run 4 sticks
i couldnt run 4 sticks @ stock on x38-dq6
you need 1.65v nb 1.3v vtt keep pll volts to minimum setting or it will degrade your cpu and use only 333/800 divider
you not gonna go higher than 520 with 4 sticks
and if all your dim slots are not 100% you will only do 510
be smart n use 8-9 multiplier get the max out of your cpu you should be looking to max out your cpu not just the board and watch your temps

[rioja]

i hope you know how tough it is for a board to run 4 sticks
i couldnt run 4 sticks @ stock on x38-dq6
you need 1.65v nb 1.3v vtt keep pll volts to minimum setting or it will degrade your cpu and use only 333/800 divider
you not gonna go higher than 520 with 4 sticks
and if all your dim slots are not 100% you will only do 510
be smart n use 8-9 multiplier get the max out of your cpu you should be looking to max out your cpu not just the board and watch your temps

i cant set high multi or do load testing, coz i'm on stock cooling with cpu box cooler and nb heatsink on pushpins
i gonna make first watercool loop cpu ->nb ->pwm soon

but i try to find out max of this board with a good cpu and 4x1gb
so u say fsb520?

i have an option to change board to this one dfi p35
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=447022
is it worth? all watercool parts are compatible, it can count superpi at 580х9.5 already, and it does not have pci-e 2.0 and has older chip
or leave my x38

[deadman'sclick]

im quite happy to stick with my x38 atm, it did cost me quite a bit with shipping & bank transfure fees etc lol towards £250.

im not just being a tight , i dont see the need for anything else atm. having a 9.5 multi on my cpu with 500+ stable fsb to play with is more then enough for me on my watercooling setup.

the newer bios's hav made the board feel quite different from the pre-45nm coded ones. not just coz the skews etc, just how it handles in genral.

[zsamz_]

i cant set high multi or do load testing, coz i'm on stock cooling with cpu box cooler and nb heatsink on pushpins
i gonna make first watercool loop cpu ->nb ->pwm soon

but i try to find out max of this board with a good cpu and 4x1gb
so u say fsb520?

i have an option to change board to this one dfi p35
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=447022
is it worth? all watercool parts are compatible, it can count superpi at 580х9.5 already, and it does not have pci-e 2.0 and has older chip
or leave my x38

i got both and the p35 is faster
its only worth it if you like me and want that xtra% in memory bandwith
the x38 needs less volts for my cpu n ram but i like the xtra bandwidth
but no way the p35 can match the x38 with 4x1
my gskills 4 gig set can do 1300 so i'm good
if you gonna use 4 stix stay with the x38
edit: when i go crossfire with my 4870 i will switch back to x38 hopefully dfi will have a bios that will like my e8600

[rioja]

do i need an extra cool for south bridge? or strock heatsink would be enough?
it's quite hot by the touch even at default speeds

[Shiranui Gen-An]

i got both and the p35 is faster
its only worth it if you like me and want that xtra% in memory bandwith

Guess what I ordered today? http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-La...ATX-p-338.html

[zanzabar]

the p45 is even faster than the p35 or x38, and u can get it in ddr3 or ddr2

[Shiranui Gen-An]

the p45 is even faster than the p35 or x38, and u can get it in ddr3 or ddr2

For that price, I couldn't pass it up. Besides P35 usually gives better bandwidth than P45 since you can run a lower PL at the same strap/FSB setting. And P45+DDR3=

[zsamz_]

do i need an extra cool for south bridge? or strock heatsink would be enough?
it's quite hot by the touch even at default speeds

change the paste add a fan

Guess what I ordered today? http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-La...ATX-p-338.html

enjoy its a great board
but i would bought a dfi ut p45 if i were you

the p45 is even faster than the p35 or x38, and u can get it in ddr3 or ddr2

the p45 and p35 are equal i'd give a 0.5% edge to the p35 but the p45 will give higher fsb
and only the dfi ut p45 is equal to the ut-p35 the other brands dont come close

[Shiranui Gen-An]

the p45 and p35 are equal i'd give a 0.5% edge to the p35 but the p45 will give higher fsb
and only the dfi ut p45 is equal to the ut-p35 the other brands dont come close

I've been having a lot of fun with "Gigabutt" EP45 UD3P and D9GMH

[zanzabar]

ive been having fun with my blackops and gts, and i now dispise ddr2, i didnt like it initialy and stuck with ddr1 then i should have stayed with my gut and skipped ddr2. the ddr3 isnt much faster its just alot better to work with

[clip]

I'd say ddr2 is still up there, tight timings, fast buses.

[zsamz_]

I've been having a lot of fun with "Gigabutt" EP45 UD3P and D9GMH

you wont get hight clocks with ram but you will know what speed means with dfi