Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[Xello]

Most of people using F4j or F4m

I am using F5E... with no problems and suposedly fix the sleep mode thing

So you can resume from sleep mode without HT enabled?

[kpablo]

I don't know... is something i have read it before in one of the post... i have to test it yet.

[JWMc]

So you can resume from sleep mode without HT enabled?

I just disabled HT to test this for you with BIOS F5e on my UD5 @ 21x180 and it worked. I waited 10 seconds after the fans stopped to click the mouse and trigger the resume.

[Pyr0]

yes, sleep mode on the UD5 with the F5e BIOS works fine with HT disabled (stopped working with F5f and F5g tho )

but Xello wanted to know if the F5e BIOS for the EX-58 Extreme board (different BIOS) worked in the same way

[burningrave101]

yes, sleep mode on the UD5 with the F5e BIOS works fine with HT disabled (stopped working with F5f and F5g tho )

but Xello wanted to know if the F5e BIOS for the EX-58 Extreme board (different BIOS) worked in the same way

I saw someone over at Tweaktown post a thread stating that on the UD5 the S3 sleep mode didn't work for them till they enabled HT because they had HT disabled before. Maybe they just had it backwards though.

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/resu...-solved-29606/

[JWMc]

yes, sleep mode on the UD5 with the F5e BIOS works fine with HT disabled (stopped working with F5f and F5g tho )

but Xello wanted to know if the F5e BIOS for the EX-58 Extreme board (different BIOS) worked in the same way

Well with any luck the Extreme and UD5 F5e BIOSes are the same in this regard.

[Pyr0]

i'd hope so too, but it may not as the F5e for the Extreme was posted by Stasio at the same time as the F5g for the UD5

people reported that the F5e for the Extreme fixed the double cold boot that happens
the UD5, F5g BIOS seemed to fix the same problem, but i did not use it for very long because i could not resume from sleep with HT disabled

[tipes]

i'd hope so too, but it may not as the F5e for the Extreme was posted by Stasio at the same time as the F5g for the UD5

people reported that the F5e for the Extreme fixed the double cold boot that happens
the UD5, F5g BIOS seemed to fix the same problem, but i did not use it for very long because i could not resume from sleep with HT disabled

Strange thing is that I could not resume from sleep mode with either F5f or g with HT on !!! so reverted to F5e which seems ok.

Mark

[JWMc]

i'd hope so too, but it may not as the F5e for the Extreme was posted by Stasio at the same time as the F5g for the UD5

people reported that the F5e for the Extreme fixed the double cold boot that happens
the UD5, F5g BIOS seemed to fix the same problem, but i did not use it for very long because i could not resume from sleep with HT disabled

Interesting, thanks for that info! I just had a hunch that Gigabyte uses a common codebase for their X58 BIOSes and it simply has compile targets for each board. They most likely only provide board specific binaries when they have made enough changes that need to be tested.

[icecold316]

So you can resume from sleep mode without HT enabled?

I am still on F4R Bios, for me going into sleep mode takes 2 secs and resuming takes 4 secs to be precise. My LED reads dC after resuming though, no clue what that means.

Is there any advantage of moving from F4R to F5e like reduced voltage to achieve stability . Then I may think of trying it out.

[hlonipha]

man my setup does not like anything without the turbo on wtf. I can prime at 3929 for hours but can't event boot at 3700 if I turn the turbo off. any ideas ????

[Hondacity]

is that at stock speed and v?
what is your cpu temp at stock speed and v?

its my motherboard temps...using everest....

i just wanna know what your motherboard temps are...i'm using a sapphire water block on my norhtbridge...

when i start to prime the temperature jums to 42ish from 29ish

[SteveRo]

using everest and prime95 my motherboard temps idle at 31C and loads to about 42C

anybody for comparison?

Good morning,

I am currently 2.5 hrs into priming at 25x172 HT on
cpu v 1.5625 (in bios), 1.52v (cpuz, load)
qpi v 1.335
mem v 1.64

everest says mobo temp is 49.
I have slow fans running over the mobo, no NB water block and no huge fin thingy

[hlonipha]

Ok got the board to boot up with turbo disable 20x multi with a bios reset but up to 190, nothing past that. any advice? maybe is the bios I'm using F5G. Can anyone post links to the F4N F4R bios for the UD5 please?

Thanks

[Xello]

I saw someone over at Tweaktown post a thread stating that on the UD5 the S3 sleep mode didn't work for them till they enabled HT because they had HT disabled before. Maybe they just had it backwards though.

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/resu...-solved-29606/

Yeah that's right, you couldn't resume from sleep if you have don't have HT on.

I'll flash f5e and try this myself

[icecold316]

Can anyone with Dominator Memory and UD5 tell me if they have latency at 4, after resuming from Sleep ??? My memory latency drops to 4 after resuming from Sleep mode always.

[Pyr0]

Can anyone with Dominator Memory and UD5 tell me if they have latency at 4, after resuming from Sleep ??? My memory latency drops to 4 after resuming from Sleep mode always.

yes it happens here too, nothing to really worry about (it's not really running cas4), it's just a false reading

you can prove this to yourself by running benchmarks before and after - there is no performance improvement

[Hondacity]

Good morning,

I am currently 2.5 hrs into priming at 25x172 HT on
cpu v 1.5625 (in bios), 1.52v (cpuz, load)
qpi v 1.335
mem v 1.64

everest says mobo temp is 49.
I have slow fans running over the mobo, no NB water block and no huge fin thingy

thanks i now i know my temps aren't that uselful lol, i know you bench way higher

thanks again

[rob[GL]]

So, I posted this in my own thread in another section of the forum, but nobody seems to be able to help me... So I'll try posting here.

I just purchased an EX58-DS4 mainboard and the build went very smoothly... I'm running bios F4... I booted into Windows, installed all the drivers off the CD, and my onboard ethernet went CRAZY!

on/off/on/off/on/off/on/off

I am worried there is something wrong with my board?

I went into BIOS and there's an option called "GREEN NIC" or something like that... Which according to the description in the bios, says it's for power saving and it will automatically disable the onboard NIC. Well... when that option is turned OFF the onboard NIC goes haywire... But if I enable that option, it seems to work.

But I don't want the nic to ever automatically turn off.

Anyone have ANY info on this at all?

Should I just go get another board and see if it behaves the same way?

-rob

[Xello]

So, I posted this in my own thread in another section of the forum, but nobody seems to be able to help me... So I'll try posting here.

I just purchased an EX58-DS4 mainboard and the build went very smoothly... I'm running bios F4... I booted into Windows, installed all the drivers off the CD, and my onboard ethernet went CRAZY!

on/off/on/off/on/off/on/off

I am worried there is something wrong with my board?

I went into BIOS and there's an option called "GREEN NIC" or something like that... Which according to the description in the bios, says it's for power saving and it will automatically disable the onboard NIC. Well... when that option is turned OFF the onboard NIC goes haywire... But if I enable that option, it seems to work.

But I don't want the nic to ever automatically turn off.

Anyone have ANY info on this at all?

Should I just go get another board and see if it behaves the same way?

-rob

If it's only doing it on one port, can you disable it in windows and just use the other one? I had to do this with a board years ago, came down to hardware interrupts or something (check process explorer)


Flashed to F5e and as suspected, sleep issue is not fixed. Hit and a miss, gigabyte!

[Pyr0]

i leave "green lan" enabled
it's only supposed to disable an ethernet port if it doesn't have a cable plugged in

[SteveRo]

I have some new memory arriving tomorrow - upgrading from 3x1gb 1066 to 2000.
I am trying to figure out how to go about ocing it based on current cpu oc, bclock and uncore.
I have a lot of options but it seems like the uncore speed is going to be my likely limiter.
At 200+ bclock I will want to run the mem mutli at 10 so that means the uncore multi needs to be at 21 right?
But 200x21 is uncore running at 4200 which it seems it will not do.
So questions -
1. I assume cpu cycles are still king and that I do not want to give up on any of my cpu oc (almost 4.3 ht on, and 4.4 ht off).
2. How do I get the uncore speed high enough to run the memory at 2k?

[rob[GL]]

i leave "green lan" enabled
it's only supposed to disable an ethernet port if it doesn't have a cable plugged in

That's why I'm so very confused...

By default - the option is DISABLED in the bios. Which in my mind, means the LAN should *NOT* automatically be enable or disable. And - I did have a cable plugged in. Very strange. I can only get the LAN to work if I enable the option. I'm very concerned. Is it a quirk? Should I reflash the bios? Should I go exchange the mainboard?

[JWMc]

I have some new memory arriving tomorrow - upgrading from 3x1gb 1066 to 2000.
I am trying to figure out how to go about ocing it based on current cpu oc, bclock and uncore.
I have a lot of options but it seems like the uncore speed is going to be my likely limiter.
At 200+ bclock I will want to run the mem mutli at 10 so that means the uncore multi needs to be at 21 right?
But 200x21 is uncore running at 4200 which it seems it will not do.
So questions -
1. I assume cpu cycles are still king and that I do not want to give up on any of my cpu oc (almost 4.3 ht on, and 4.4 ht off).
2. How do I get the uncore speed high enough to run the memory at 2k?

Yea I'm sure max CPU clock cycles are still king, it's hard to make full use of the bandwidth we already have at modest memory speeds.

From what dejanh was saying, 4000 mhz is going to be the absolute max QPI clock. Of course you also want Uncore at least 2x memory speed so your Uncore is also running really fast.

Technically, the maximum DRAM speed for a stable system is equal to ((Max. Uncore) / (Safe QPI:Uncore Ratio)) / 2 or (4.0GHz / 9:8) / 2 = 1.777GHz. In between 1.777GHz DRAM and 2.0GHz DRAM you are likely to experience some level of instability over the long term. Past 2.0GHz you are just plain lucky.

As far as I can tell your only option to run the memory all the way to 2000 (under maximum system stress) is to keep bclk at 200, QPI at 4000 and Uncore at 4000 and pray. I bet you can get it rock solid in a 32-bit OS with HT off.

[SteveRo]

Yea I'm sure max CPU clock cycles are still king, it's hard to make full use of the bandwidth we already have at modest memory speeds.

From what dejanh was saying, 4000 mhz is going to be the absolute max QPI clock. Of course you also want Uncore at least 2x memory speed so your Uncore is also running really fast.



As far as I can tell your only option to run the memory all the way to 2000 (under maximum system stress) is to keep bclk at 200, QPI at 4000 and Uncore at 4000 and pray. I bet you can get it rock solid in a 32-bit OS with HT off.

sounds like a plan, I will report back, thanks!