AMD Phenom II X4: Highest AMD score in 3DM06 ever

[SF3D]

Hi all!

Now is the time to start 3DM06 benching with AMD platform. Team Finland already hit great scores in 3DM05, but we have to move forward

You can find more info from these from the following links:

Here is the 3DM05 thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=215074

Liquid Helium video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB0JodKgZ0A

We test our parts separately now and you can find Sampsas NB test thread from here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=215092


So, I benched 3DM06 last night with my new toys:

ASUS M4A79 Deluxe
2x 4870X2 @ 800/950 (again )
Very cheap DDR2 ram 2x 1GB.. can do 800MHz 5-5-5-18 2T
Thermaltake 1200W toughpower
Windows 7 Beta (32-bit)

Here is the ASUS M4A79 Deluxe:



Here is the preparation phase. You can see my cheap 18€ rams installed (New ones are coming, but they didn't come in time for these tests)



System running around -170- -180C ?



After 4 hours of testing...



And finally the scores!


Here is the new AMD 3Dmark06 record:

Note that my CPU can go high in MHZ, but NB is not clocking at the same time. They can clock well separately, but not together.

OS is Windows 7 beta

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9756686



Some other, not so seriously benched scores:










I hope you like it!

[knightwolf654]

awesome!
ever though of putting ln2 on the northbridge?

[massman]

The efficiency in 3DMark06 is not as bad as I'd expected it.

Nice runs, Petri!

[Oliver]

good job, sure alot of fun going on there

hehe i c u use some trandscend sticks...

[AndreYang]

hmm...AM3 CPU....

[SeLecT]

Awesome result with AMD!

Are you satisfied with the board?

[SF3D]

awesome!
ever though of putting ln2 on the northbridge?

The efficiency in 3DMark06 is not as bad as I'd expected it.

Nice runs, Petri!

NB is inside the CPU, so it is already cooled with LN2. It's all about this sample. New CPU's can do easily 4GHz NB speed.

So.. When we can find sample, which can do 4GHz+ on NB and high MHz in 06, scores will be a lot better. NB is affecting the efficiency greatly.

The performance is better than in yorkfield, if we can find good CPU. DDR3 will help also in the future

There was weird bug in this CPU.. only other value could be high, CPU speed or NB

good job, sure alot of fun going on there

hehe i c u use some trandscend sticks...

Hehe.. yes fun it is. Transcend do some really cheap ram kits

[AndreYang]

so AMD agree post AM3 cpus? We don't have any NDA since you post this.

[informal]

Nice scores SF3D .Congrats on AMD WR
Pity the cards couldn't run with higher gpu/mem clocks,you could brake 34K easily with higher Gfx clocks .
Oh and those cheap ram sticks are doin' great . I wonder how will AM3+DDR3 do in 3dmark06

[Dumo]

Nice cpu SF3D

Are we looking at early batch AM3 here?

[Dumo]

so AMD agree post AM3 cpus? We don't have any NDA since you post this.

Do you have the same batch Andre?

[SF3D]

Haha.. Andre, go and take your morning coffee

It is AM2+ ES CPU

We used this one in Chicago event. This did 3DM06 CPU test at 6GHz in there, but I couldn't replicate this yesterday.

AM3 boards can be used with AM2 CPU's and with DDR2, but AM3 board with DDR3 will be usable only with AM3 CPU's.. (how unclear sentence can be )

[informal]

AM3 boards can be used with AM2 CPU's and with DDR2, but AM3 board with DDR3 will be usable only with AM3 CPU's.. (how unclear sentence can be )

Or it is : "AM3 CPUs can be used with AM2 boards and with DDR2, but AM3 board with DDR3 will be usable only with AM3 CPU's.."

[AndreYang]

Do you have the same batch Andre?

oh~~yeah~~~

Haha.. Andre, go and take your morning coffee

It is AM2+ ES CPU

We used this one in Chicago event. This did 3DM06 CPU test at 6GHz in there, but I couldn't replicate this yesterday.

AM3 boards can be used with AM2 CPU's and with DDR2, but AM3 board with DDR3 will be usable only with AM3 CPU's.. (how unclear sentence can be )

come on...see your CPUZ stepping 1. It's AM3 CPU, not AM2. AM3 CPU can match AM2/AM3 mobos, but AM2 CPU cannot use on AM3 mobo.


I know this cpu is AM3 945 ES. Early AM2 ES cannot show stepping 1 on CPUZ.


hehehe...

see here.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=215454


I have some AM3s on hand, so I can throw NDA documents to trash can.

[SoF]

great screens and scores! Is CFX not working yet under windows 7?

[Sampsa]

Andre, c'mon why so aggressive? .. that CPU is from Chicago event (beginning of December) where me and SF3D first tested Phenom II X4 with LN2.

CPU is from old batch and has HT cold bug as you can see from screenshots (HT = 1 GHz). New CPUs with AMD's latest 45 nm process don't have any cold bug with HT and NB overclock alot higher.

Current AM2+ CPUs works just fine on AM3 motherboards like M4A79 Deluxe _IF_ they are equipped with DDR2 memory connectors. M4A79-T Deluxe is AM3 motherboard with DDR3 memory connectors and current DDR2 Phenom II CPUs won't work with it.

[Sampsa]

SF3D, good job with '06. Next target +6 GHz on all cores and +33k

[SF3D]

come on...see your CPUZ stepping 1. It's AM3 CPU, not AM2. AM3 CPU can match AM2/AM3 mobos, but AM2 CPU cannot use on AM3 mobo.


I know this cpu is AM3 945 ES. Early AM2 ES cannot show stepping 1 on CPUZ.:

You are wrong I think Macci and Sampsa will confirm to you, that this is 940 ES.

But seriously, go somewhere else to trash threads. You never have anything positive to say to me.. always this same kind of aggressive BS.

AM3 scores will come out next month or when AMD will let us show them. Actually, I haven't even touched AM3 parts yet.

[Gautam]

Gentlemen, please. A mix-up over a single digit in CPU-Z can be handled more civilly than this.

Good looking start, I hope that the vcore in CPU-Z is wrong.

Must say oddly enough the thing I like most about your pics is what you've done to the 4870X2 on the bottom, seems like I'd better go out and get another MCW30 along with a hacksaw.

[AndreYang]

Andre, c'mon why so aggressive? .. that CPU is from Chicago event (beginning of December) where me and SF3D first tested Phenom II X4 with LN2.

CPU is from old batch and has HT cold bug as you can see from screenshots (HT = 1 GHz). New CPUs with AMD's latest 45 nm process don't have any cold bug with HT and NB overclock alot higher.

Current AM2+ CPUs works just fine on AM3 motherboards like M4A79 Deluxe _IF_ they are equipped with DDR2 memory connectors. M4A79-T Deluxe is AM3 motherboard with DDR3 memory connectors and current DDR2 Phenom II CPUs won't work with it.

You are wrong I think Macci and Sampsa will confirm to you, that this is 940 ES.

But seriously, go somewhere else to trash threads. You never have anything positive to say to me.. always this same kind of aggressive BS.

AM3 scores will come out next month or when AMD will let us show them. Actually, I haven't even touched AM3 parts yet.

OK, just ask macci comfirm that. Why do CPUZ show AM3 CPU stepping? Some AM3 already sent to some guys before you went to Chicago event.

CPUZ can read all AM2 cpus no problem at all. It's only AM3 CPU different. Prove it I am wrong.

Why not say it's early AM3? So it has cold HT issue. Or AMD want to say they have 2 different cpuid on AM2? CPUZ already can read all AM2 stepping no problem at all. It only cannot read very new cpu, such as AM3.

[Solarfall]

very nice scores on the amd platform there petri how are you liking clocking with windows 7?

[[XC] gomeler]

Impressive scores with a crippled chip and crippled memory Once you have some nice GMH/GKX that'll do DDR2-1200C4 and a 4GHz NB those scores will take off

Any possibility of another LHe run when you either get a new CPU or AM3 samples? Might be time to use an evaporator design for a pot rather than an open LN2 pot

OK, just ask macci comfirm that. Why do CPUZ show AM3 CPU stepping? Some AM3 already sent to some guys before you went to Chicago event.

CPUZ can read all AM2 cpus no problem at all. It's only AM3 CPU different. Prove it I am wrong.

Why not say it's early AM3? So it has cold HT issue. Or AMD want to say they have 2 different cpuid on AM2? CPUZ already can read all AM2 stepping no problem at all. It only cannot read very new cpu, such as AM3.

Jesus Christ, take it to PM and stop trashing this tread.

[AndreYang]

Andre, c'mon why so aggressive? .. that CPU is from Chicago event (beginning of December) where me and SF3D first tested Phenom II X4 with LN2.

CPU is from old batch and has HT cold bug as you can see from screenshots (HT = 1 GHz). New CPUs with AMD's latest 45 nm process don't have any cold bug with HT and NB overclock alot higher.

Current AM2+ CPUs works just fine on AM3 motherboards like M4A79 Deluxe _IF_ they are equipped with DDR2 memory connectors. M4A79-T Deluxe is AM3 motherboard with DDR3 memory connectors and current DDR2 Phenom II CPUs won't work with it.

Are you kidding me?? AM2+ CPU worked at AM3 mobos????

AM2 cpu only has DDR2 memory control. It cannot worked at DDR3 mobos. All DDR3 mobos named AM3.

I start to test AM3 mobo now. I know 940/920 AM2 CPUs on AM3 mobo no post at all. Why did you say AM2 cpu worked at AM3 mobos????? Who told you that?? You test AM3 mobos???

[informal]

Are you kidding me?? AM2+ CPU worked at AM3 mobos????

AM2 cpu only has DDR2 memory control. It cannot worked at DDR3 mobos.

I start to test AM3 mobo now. I know 940/920 AM2 CPUs on AM3 mobo no post at all. Why did you say AM2 cpu worked at AM3 mobos????? Who told you that?? You test AM3 mobos???

No you read it wrong .
What Sampsa said is that AM2+ CPUs will work in AM3 motherboards IF those motherboards are DDR2 based,like the one(ASUS M4A79 Deluxe) Petri used in the OP.That motherboard is branded like AM3 since it has BIOS support for the AM3 CPUs out-of-the-box,while the socket(as I believe it) is still AM2+.

There will be "real" AM3 motherboards that will have DDR3 memory support.In those boards,AM2+ CPUs won't work.

[AndreYang]

No you read it wrong .
What Sampsa said is that AM2+ CPUs will work in AM3 motherboards IF those motherboards are DDR2 based,like the one(ASUS M4A79 Deluxe) Petri used in the OP.That motherboard is branded like AM3 since it has BIOS support for the AM3 CPUs out-of-the-box,while the socket(as I believe it) is still AM2+.

There will be "real" AM3 motherboards that will have DDR3 memory support.In those boards,AM2+ CPUs won't work.

OK..got it.

You just compare with Sampsa thread and SF3D thread CPUZ and one guy post 945 AM3 CPUz.


So this cpu is "early 945 AM3 ES" or "early 940 AM2+ ES"? I believe SF3D didn't know that. I am so mad because I must follow with ing NDA and some guys can post it.