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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Halford View Post
    Running 4.45GHZ (165 * 27) with 1,45v with HT enabled 24/7 but has never tried BOINC or anything similar in paralell with gaming...
    Wow, nice chip
    Anyway you should try it some time, makes the SS really work hard
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    maybe HT isn't really needed ?

    Right now running TmpgEnc Express 4 and Authoring Works 4 on 15.7GB DVR-MS raw video record file converting it to DVD-video @19x211 = 4009Mhz at 1.328v with no probs. 5hr raw video takes 71mins to convert to dvd-video and 53mins to convert to DIVX with HT enabled and source raw file on 750GB Samsung SATAII hdd. With HT disabled and source file on single 32GB OCZ Core V1 SSD, DIVX conversion took 43mins - nearly 10mins faster

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    • TmpgEnc Express4 DIVX Conversion without HT/32GB OCZ Core V1 SSD @1000Kb/s = ~43min


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    the test isn't a very good comparison, can you run it again , without HT on the 750GB hdd please, then we can get an idea of the gains from the SSD and also the benefit (or lack of) HT

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    I use HT all the time. It speeds up my rendering times immensly. For instance....

    My 4.4GHz E8600 rendered a scene I created in 6m 6s.
    My 4.0GHz i7 920 renders the same scene in 3m 9s with HT off.
    My 4.0GHz i7 920 renders the same scene in 2m 2s with HT on.

    Real world proof in VUE 7 - no synthetic benchmark crap. Now just think of what it does when I have 2-3 day render jobs!

    THAT is precisely why I bought the i7 vs. a Q9550 or something...
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    yeah could of been the SSD speeding things up (which is what i got SSD for hehe)

    will retest without HT on 750GB SATA as well as with and without HT on single 32GB SSD, 2x32GB SSD raid 0 and 4x32GB SSD raid 0 on Highpoint 3520LF tomorrow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eva2000 View Post
    yeah could of been the SSD speeding things up (which is what i got SSD for hehe)

    will retest without HT on 750GB SATA as well as with and without HT on single 32GB SSD, 2x32GB SSD raid 0 and 4x32GB SSD raid 0 on Highpoint 3520LF tomorrow!
    nice one Eva

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWMc View Post
    What is the literal name of this value in MemSet or the BIOS?
    DRAM write recovery time

    I'm having a lot of success and speed optimisations playing with memory timings....havent found optimal settings but i think the integrated memory controller is key to optimising these I7s. It certainly the limiting factor. Ive been able to reduce voltage too by playing with RAM timings so something is going on between the two pieces of hardware.

    Ive got ddr3 1600 running at 7-8-7-20-1T at 839Mhz 19*210 and I think there is room to increase the 210 significantly with optimised speed timings.

    Ive got more testing to do before getting back with screenies but Im optimistic right now. CPU volts 1.35 in CPU-Z and QPI 1.35 in BIOS still.
    Ram volts as standard 1.66 in BIOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWMc View Post
    Yep, I know. I'm going to try and see if it's still stable with it lowered next. I needed it to get stable even at lower overclocks with these 2 gig modules. I need some 1 giggers like yours so I can cheat. :P

    Edit: But isn't the QPI/VTT voltage max more of a thing referencing the max DRAM voltage which they only had to specify because the old DDR3 memory couldn't run at low enough volts to stay within 0.5 volts of the stock QPI/VTT? So if you are running 1.9v on your memory you need at least 1.4v QPI/VTT (probably more lke 1.5v) and this is 'safe' with sufficient motherboard cooling, I think.

    So far I am unable to get stable at all ever with 3 x 2gig modules at tight timings at 4.0ghz and beyond without exceeding 1.35v QPI/VTT. Actually, I needed 1.375v QPI/VTT to pass long prime blend runs even with 2 sticks.
    Ya, 3x2gb seems to make things much harder for a lot of folks.
    I was worried that 3x1gb would not be enough - that I would be going into virtual memory too much.
    As a mater of fact I am sure I am going into vm a lot - I don't even notice it though because I am running raid 0 .1ms SSDs.
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    anyone done any o/cing on the 3839A batch..just got one of these..

    wondering what they are like...in terms of oc capability...

    haven't been able to find much online..so i have come here

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    Couldnt you find a good batch first then buy ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie-revhead View Post
    Couldnt you find a good batch first then buy ?

    I had my buddy at Microcenter dig through a few boxes to find a particular "B" batch I was looking for
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie-revhead View Post
    Couldnt you find a good batch first then buy ?

    nah they said they couldn't because it was picked randomly from their supplier

    we will see how it goes...got a decent board now...so will give it a crack

    going to make a custom bracket for my all in one swiftech kit tomorrow

    should be able to push it a little more with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooti3 View Post
    anyone done any o/cing on the 3839A batch..just got one of these..

    wondering what they are like...in terms of oc capability...

    haven't been able to find much online..so i have come here

    Hooti3, i have one of those! Really don't know if good or not, never took that in consideration ... but i'm doing 3.6Ghz with stock settings only BCLK @ 180 a multi @ 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooti3 View Post
    anyone done any o/cing on the 3839A batch..just got one of these..

    wondering what they are like...in terms of oc capability...

    haven't been able to find much online..so i have come here
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    So many opinions and so few screenshots

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    Btw, my Batch is #3839A569

    Don't know anything if its a good one or bad one, but ok! @ 3.6 never had a single problem with it. @ Full it's @ 67ºC so ... its fits for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by day187 View Post
    the test isn't a very good comparison, can you run it again , without HT on the 750GB hdd please, then we can get an idea of the gains from the SSD and also the benefit (or lack of) HT

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmzy View Post
    I use HT all the time. It speeds up my rendering times immensly. For instance....

    My 4.4GHz E8600 rendered a scene I created in 6m 6s.
    My 4.0GHz i7 920 renders the same scene in 3m 9s with HT off.
    My 4.0GHz i7 920 renders the same scene in 2m 2s with HT on.

    Real world proof in VUE 7 - no synthetic benchmark crap. Now just think of what it does when I have 2-3 day render jobs!

    THAT is precisely why I bought the i7 vs. a Q9550 or something...
    Guys i'm doing dvd-video to xvid and divx conversions in tmpgenc xpress 4 latest version supports core i7 but seems the gain is with ssd as source drive as HT and no HT result in about same times - with no HT slightly faster

    so what other encoding/conversion app would you guys suggest that's easy to setup and run ?
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    not a bad CPU score, about 200 points higher than my vista run, card was clocked lower here so overall score is less, but CPU performed better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Patty View Post
    not a bad CPU score, about 200 points higher than my vista run, card was clocked lower here so overall score is less, but CPU performed better
    Looks good. Whats your batch#?
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    Is there anyone who uses a D-tek Fuzion yet on an i7 CPU? I would like to know which nozzle (if any?) to use best with Core i7 and D-Tek Fuzion V1. I guess the quad nozzle isn't of any use anymore with i7 since all cores are intergrated into a single die. Anybody a suggestion?


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    They're saying don't use any nozzles in the DTek. Since the i7 is not longer two separate cores, and is on a single die you want all that water going right at it. Head over to the Water Cooling forum. There's alot of info on that that's already been posted. If you need help, just ask in there. It's one of the best if not THE best Watercooling forum on the planet.

    There are a couple people using those DTek blocks, but they had custom made mounts done up for them. DTek still hasn't got the Pro Mounts done for them yet. One guys is making plates for them though.

    Warning: Do not buy or sell in the watercooling section. It's a good way to get gone, and they will never let you in the FS section after that again. That includes PM's too. Do it in the For Sale section. I saw a warning about that in there so just a freindly reminder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooti3 View Post
    anyone done any o/cing on the 3839A batch..just got one of these..

    wondering what they are like...in terms of oc capability...

    haven't been able to find much online..so i have come here
    Just built my system and am definitely still tweaking, but it seems like a decent batch. With HT off, 200x20 has been priming for ~3.5 hours at 1.328v with a max temp of 66c (TRUE120). I would enable HT, but my board doesn't seem to like it very much... going to have to play with that

    Over 4ghz takes a significant voltage increase, but my temps were still decent. At 200x21 (Bloodrage Turbo always-on feature) and 1.424v vcore I was only at 75c max after 2 hours of prime, but it errored out. At 210x20 it wasn't even stable at 1.46v vcore and 1.4v VTT/QPI. Are such absurd voltage increases over 4ghz normal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Patty View Post
    not a bad CPU score, about 200 points higher than my vista run, card was clocked lower here so overall score is less, but CPU performed better

    Can you do a comparison with everest?
    In my case W7 is SLOWER than vista.

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    OK guys total newbie here... can you help me out? Got my first watercooled rig together and this is my first attempt to overclock. Please take alook at my setup and let me know what you think. Any advice much appreciated.
    Thanks,

    920/P6T 1102 Bios, CPU Batch 3841A403
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    I lifted these settings from another member that posted them here. So far no hangups...

    CPU 1.35V
    QPI/DRAM 1.35V
    IOH 1.18V
    IOH PCIE 1.50V
    ICH 1.2 V
    ICH PCIE 1.50V
    DRAM BUS 1.64V
    CPU Differential Amplitude 700mV
    CPU Clock Skew Delay 100ps
    CPU Spectrum Disabled
    IOH Clock Skew Delay 100ps
    PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled

    Here's my rig:


    My results: What else do I need to call it good? BTW, regarding temps, pic was taken about 30 seconds after test completed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Flight View Post
    They're saying don't use any nozzles in the DTek. Since the i7 is not longer two separate cores, and is on a single die you want all that water going right at it. Head over to the Water Cooling forum. There's alot of info on that that's already been posted. If you need help, just ask in there. It's one of the best if not THE best Watercooling forum on the planet.

    There are a couple people using those DTek blocks, but they had custom made mounts done up for them. DTek still hasn't got the Pro Mounts done for them yet. One guys is making plates for them though.
    Many thanks. I already asked that question in de WC section but only two members replied. I thought that because there aren't many i7 D-tek users yet that there would be a lack of experience. That's why I asked here as well and was hoping someone who already started OC'ing his i7 with a D-tek could provide an answer. In the WC section they tol be the same thing as you did. I guess I will give it a go then without any nozzle and see how it works out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Reid View Post
    OK guys total newbie here... can you help me out? Got my first watercooled rig together and this is my first attempt to overclock. Please take alook at my setup and let me know what you think. Any advice much appreciated.
    Thanks,

    920/P6T 1102 Bios, CPU Batch 3841A403
    G.Skill F3-12800CL8T-6GBHK

    I lifted these settings from another member that posted them here. So far no hangups...

    CPU 1.35V
    QPI/DRAM 1.35V
    IOH 1.18V
    IOH PCIE 1.50V
    ICH 1.2 V
    ICH PCIE 1.50V
    DRAM BUS 1.64V
    CPU Differential Amplitude 700mV
    CPU Clock Skew Delay 100ps
    CPU Spectrum Disabled
    IOH Clock Skew Delay 100ps
    PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled

    Here's my rig:


    My results: What else do I need to call it good? BTW, regarding temps, pic was taken about 30 seconds after test completed.
    Bill, Beautiful set up! looks like you are on your way!

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