Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[Khalmyr]

when do the temps get dangerous?

when the C2Ds came out everyone tried to stay under 70, then the quads came out and suddenly 70's were ok, but 80's too high...

now people are reaching 90's :p

[JWMc]

Supposedly the chip is resilient at high temps but I don't think anyone's going to run it like that on air long term.

I'm only running it this hard on air (in the winter) to prove the chip is water cooling worthy so I can convince myself to dive in.

[revenant]

well, intel says 100c max... I see people's loads in the 90s on air at 4ghz and beyond... that's too high for me. I am going to try and keep mine under or at 75c with a 22c ambient .. so then if the ambient goes up I have some headroom.. because in the summer my office becomes a damn kiln.. might need to get a portable AC unit in there finally... if this Jan is any indication as to what summer will be like we're in for a scorcher. :o

in other news, I hope to get to pushing my board one of the nights this week but have been gaming a lot in the evenings since I got it installed. I am going to shoot for 18x200 with mem @ 1600 for the next tier.. I know it's lower than most of you guys OC, but it will be plenty fast for me.

[Khalmyr]

at 33ºC ambient i get 81ºC at full load at 4Ghz.

I hope this heat wave goes away and I my temps go down to high 60's~low 70's

[systemviper]

BAM just got my first over 4g on my 920, now i got to find the sweet spot.....

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=489042

[roller11]

Theta mentioned having probs with S3 on a UD5 too

hehe, i've wondered if cross-flashing would be possible, but i'm guessing not since the extreme has more graduated voltage options etc.
anyone have any ideas/info ?

Re: sleep mode posts...
I fixed my problem by reformating/reinstalling the OS. I had done a new install previously and had the slow resume prob, so I don't know why it works now. I'm getting 6 second resume now, not the two second that gFiz is getting, but that's a helluva lot better than 18 seconds. I'm going into sleep mode in about 15 seconds.One problem remains however...if and only if I'm using F5E BIOS, everytime I launch EasyTune6 (any ver) I get a notification message that tells me to D/L the latest ver of ET6. This is somehow being generated by the BIOS cause no other BIOS causes this mess to appear. Not launching ET6 isn't an option cause ET6 is the only way to get Smart fan. Anyone else getting this message?

[Pyr0]

yup, same message here, i just ignore it

[SteveRo]

well, intel says 100c max... I see people's loads in the 90s on air at 4ghz and beyond... that's too high for me. I am going to try and keep mine under or at 75c with a 22c ambient .. so then if the ambient goes up I have some headroom.. because in the summer my office becomes a damn kiln.. might need to get a portable AC unit in there finally... if this Jan is any indication as to what summer will be like we're in for a scorcher. :o

in other news, I hope to get to pushing my board one of the nights this week but have been gaming a lot in the evenings since I got it installed. I am going to shoot for 18x200 with mem @ 1600 for the next tier.. I know it's lower than most of you guys OC, but it will be plenty fast for me.

I have run my 965 right up to 100C and not crash on multiple occasions. The i7 is surprisingly stable at very high temps. Running the cpu at 90+ over extended periods? only time will tell. I would think 80's should be fine, 90's for occasional spikes - on air - with cpu v aT 1.55V - this is typical -

[blossa]

How high PCIe can you guys run on the eXtreme board?

[Splave]

How high PCIe can you guys run on the eXtreme board?

think its goes to 199 if you want to ruin stuff I havent gone over 105

[revenant]

I tried pci-e @ 101 and my POS x-fi xtreme music would go unrecognized by windows! I have a new sound card now, but wow I was shocked it was that sensitive.

in other news... so in core temp the TDP says 147.3 watts or something.. it that due to having load line calibration set in the bios?? with my other board it just said 130.

[burningrave101]

Am I the only one that has experienced the issue where when I go above 200 blck to 205+ that Vista x64 only detects 4GB of RAM? CPU-Z still reads 6GB but if you go to system information Windows is only detecting 4GB. And when I open up Windows Task Manger is says my Total physical memory is only 2044MB!! If I fire up Prime Small FFTs though the CPU appears to be stable. Anyone know what's going on??

I had to do a hard restart since Vista become unresponsive due to me trying Prime95 Blend and it eating up all my available RAM. I then tried upping the vcore a couple more notches to 1.35v and it wouldn't even POST. The BIOS just recovered and reverted to stock clocks. Then I tried upping the vcore one more time and it got through POST but wouldn't make it into Windows because it said the kernel had been corrupted. So I went back and tried upping my vdimm from 1.6v to 1.66v and that got me to my Vista desktop. I'm at 19x205 and it's running Prime95 Small FFT's no problem but Windows is only detecting 4GB of RAM still. Task Manager does now at least see 4092 total physical memory. Does the problem sound more like my CPU or the motherboard?

[ReverendMaynard]

Am I the only one that has experienced the issue where when I go above 200 blck to 205+ that Vista x64 only detects 4GB of RAM? CPU-Z still reads 6GB but if you go to system information Windows is only detecting 4GB. And when I open up Windows Task Manger is says my Total physical memory is only 2044MB!! If I fire up Prime Small FFTs though the CPU appears to be stable. Anyone know what's going on??

I had to do a hard restart since Vista become unresponsive due to me trying Prime95 Blend and it eating up all my available RAM. I then tried upping the vcore a couple more notches to 1.35v and it wouldn't even POST. The BIOS just recovered and reverted to stock clocks. Then I tried upping the vcore one more time and it got through POST but wouldn't make it into Windows because it said the kernel had been corrupted. So I went back and tried upping my vdimm from 1.6v to 1.66v and that got me to my Vista desktop. I'm at 19x205 and it's running Prime95 Small FFT's no problem but Windows is only detecting 4GB of RAM still. Task Manager does now at least see 4092 total physical memory. Does the problem sound more like my CPU or the motherboard?

please list ALL of your settings.

Multis and voltages.

[Splave]

thought a couple pages back another guy had a problem with his board reading 6gb so he RMA'd it

[ReverendMaynard]

thought a couple pages back another guy had a problem with his board reading 6gb so he RMA'd it

word, but you never know it could be a setting.

[burningrave101]

please list ALL of your settings.

Multis and voltages.

Here is my hardware config and overclock related BIOS settings:

Gigabyte EX58-Extreme (flashed to F4m)
i7 920 3837B075
2x3GB Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz (white slots)
Sapphire 4870x2

Turbo: Disabled
HT: Enabled
Intel power seaving features: Disabled

CPU multi 19x
BCLK 205Mhz
Uncore 17x
QPI multi 36x
Memory 8x  (1640Mhz) 8-8-8-24-1T

Performance enhance: Turbo

vCore 1.35v (1.296v load CPU-Z)
QPI 1.36v
DRAM 1.66v
CPU PLL 1.88v
QPI PLL 1.3v
IOH Core 1.3v
ICH I/O 1.6v
ICH Core 1.2v

PCI-E Frequency 101Mhz

I've tried 203Mhz and 204Mhz BCLK and both times Vista detects 6GB of RAM and I'm running Prime Blend now without a problem. But once I start getting into the 205Mhz+ I start having issues with stability and Windows only detecting 4GB or less.

I called Gigabyte tech support earlier but the lady I got wasn't really any help. She said it was probably my CPU because of the memory controller and at 205Mhz it's pushing it past it's limit. That's kind of what I was thinking it might be but noone else seems to be mentioning Vista detecting less RAM when you clock too high. And going from 204Mhz stable to 205Mhz isn't exactly a quantum leap lol.

[gFiz]

thought a couple pages back another guy had a problem with his board reading 6gb so he RMA'd it

that was me, and it was at stock. So nothing to do with blk for me....and it was the bios saying 4gb while windows and cpu-z would say 6gb.

[Hondacity]

gigabyte finally posted the lan drivers..hahahhaha

i can do benchies now... i heard the extreme is the extreme

[ReverendMaynard]

Here is my hardware config and overclock related BIOS settings:

Gigabyte EX58-Extreme (flashed to F4m)
i7 920 3837B075
2x3GB Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz (white slots)
Sapphire 4870x2

Turbo: Disabled
HT: Enabled
Intel power seaving features: Disabled

CPU multi 19x
BCLK 205Mhz
Uncore 17x
QPI multi 36x
Memory 8x  (1640Mhz) 8-8-8-24-1T

Performance enhance: Turbo

vCore 1.35v (1.296v load CPU-Z)
QPI 1.36v
DRAM 1.66v
CPU PLL 1.88v
QPI PLL 1.3v
IOH Core 1.3v
ICH I/O 1.6v
ICH Core 1.2v

PCI-E Frequency 101Mhz

I've tried 203Mhz and 204Mhz BCLK and both times Vista detects 6GB of RAM and I'm running Prime Blend now without a problem. But once I start getting into the 205Mhz+ I start having issues with stability and Windows only detecting 4GB or less.

I called Gigabyte tech support earlier but the lady I got wasn't really any help. She said it was probably my CPU because of the memory controller and at 205Mhz it's pushing it past it's limit. That's kind of what I was thinking it might be but noone else seems to be mentioning Vista detecting less RAM when you clock too high. And going from 204Mhz stable to 205Mhz isn't exactly a quantum leap lol.

A couple of things stand out there.

Your vcore load voltage is a bit low. You should target for 1.36v full load, with your QPI/VTT at just a notch higher at 1.375v. The ICH Core is a bit high as well and that can cause instability. Also, drop the uncore to 16x. It's way more forgiving. If you're using the turbo performance mode, set it to standard which is just effectively changing dropping the Perf Level. You lose a bit on bandwidth, but make it up with the higher blck.

I post up and bench with 215x21 by only adjusting the vcore, dram and vTT. Results very, but from my experience with it, those 3 voltages are clutch.

[rge]

HOLY BUGFIX BATMAN!! New F5e for extreme, the reboot bug at high bclk is gone. Good job Gigabyte

I think F5e is smoothest for rebooting, no double boots yet, just fires up quickly each time. Just one quick stability test at 4.2 with linx went fine....have to do so more stability testing tomorrow, but so far looking like a keeper.

[GenTarkin]

Guys I have a question about the EX58-UD3R board...or any of these EX58's in general.
I was wondering is there any program that will show the CURRENT voltages (all voltages such as qpi/vtt and vcore, vdimm, pll's and all the ones that are displayed in bios?
The bios does not read out the "Current" values it only shows default ones. Does gigabytes EasyTune6 software show current values or only default ones?

By current I mean...actual read voltages, not what I have them set to and not what they are stock...
Thanks

[Hondacity]

thanks rge will try that too... ahh i940 user...i still have mine boxed will do some benchies later this week...

[burningrave101]

HOLY BUGFIX BATMAN!! New F5e for extreme, the reboot bug at high bclk is gone. Good job Gigabyte

I think F5e is smoothest for rebooting, no double boots yet, just fires up quickly each time. Just one quick stability test at 4.2 with linx went fine....have to do so more stability testing tomorrow, but so far looking like a keeper.

I just flashed to F5e and I wish they'd fix the annoying POST sequence after saving BIOS settings. The thing goes through its scenario of shutting down, starting up, shutting down, starting up, and then firing up the video card fan to full blast like three times. Changing BIOS settings on this board gets annoying after a while lol.

Has anyone gotten EasyTune 6 to work on Vista x64 yet?? I downloaded the version off the Gigabyte website and i just get a notification that it's crashed twice every time Windows loads. I try to launch it afterward and just keeps crashing.

[GenTarkin]

I just flashed to F5e and I wish they'd fix the annoying POST sequence after saving BIOS settings. The thing goes through its scenario of shutting down, starting up, shutting down, starting up, and then firing up the video card fan to full blast like three times. Changing BIOS settings on this board gets annoying after a while lol.

Has anyone gotten EasyTune 6 to work on Vista x64 yet?? I downloaded the version off the Gigabyte website and i just get a notification that it's crashed twice every time Windows loads. I try to launch it afterward and just keeps crashing.

LOL my EX58 UD3R has the same behaviour when changing some of the CPU options. I know a lot of intel boards seem to do this, they shut completely off on a reset and then back on. Its really odd...no AMD board Ive delt with does this.

[lowdog]

Went from f4m to f5e and still the same change settings in bios hit F10 and comp just shuts down and wont boot back up, have to go through a trip and turn psu off then back on, press power button then press it again blah blah then it will finally boot. Sometimes it boots up fine after changing oc settings other times it doesn't.........nearly at my wits end with this board, been nothing short of a pain since I've had it.