Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H BIOS versions

[Meizuman]

loaded F3 yesterday.
was able to boot 3.9ghz @ 1.6v and run pi, install a few things. restarted...never booted again at that clock.
MUCH longer POST time than F3h (my previous BIOS)
still can't break 2400mhz NB


EPP runs at 400mhz instead of 500mhz like stated in cpu-z?
not familiar w/ this function...

i have a few things to do today but might put on F3i

I have my NB @ 2484MHz with +0.175V, multi x12, HTT 207. CPU NB VID +0.175V
Not exactly 100% rock solid stable but freezings are quite rare.

And what I've seen, the NB should overclock more easily with Phenom II. Of course it may not be the case with this mobo.

About the EPP with 400MHz, do you mean there is EPP timings when manually setting RAM multi and RAM timings are on auto?

[CntdwnToExtn]

well i've got my NB @ 2410mhz (200.9 x 12, +.050v ) but anything over that doesn't boot...which is what i meant by not being able to break 2400mhz.
13x multi refuses to POST no matter what voltage i set on the CPU NB VID - +075v, +.100v or even +.125v...i think i might of even tried +.150v w/ 13x

bus speed increases w/ a 12x multi on the NB to put it over 2400mhz fail as well.


as for the EPP
right now, cpu-z shows 500mhz 5-5-5-12 for EPP#1
if i auto set RAM in the BIOS and switch to EPP and set to auto it boots 400mhz 5-4-4-10
as well it reports max bandwidth is pc2-6400 instead of 8000
i dunno, i might be a noob and missing something logical here. i've never ran these at 1066 until last week when i got my pII. just had a 5000+BE temporarily waiting for this cpu to be released.

[Meizuman]

well i've got my NB @ 2410mhz (200.9 x 12, +.050v ) but anything over that doesn't boot...which is what i meant by not being able to break 2400mhz.
13x multi refuses to POST no matter what voltage i set on the CPU NB VID - +075v, +.100v or even +.125v...i think i might of even tried +.150v w/ 13x

bus speed increases w/ a 12x multi on the NB to put it over 2400mhz fail as well.


as for the EPP
right now, cpu-z shows 500mhz 5-5-5-12 for EPP#1
if i auto set RAM in the BIOS and switch to EPP and set to auto it boots 400mhz 5-4-4-10
as well it reports max bandwidth is pc2-6400 instead of 8000
i dunno, i might be a noob and missing something logical here. i've never ran these at 1066 until last week when i got my pII. just had a 5000+BE temporarily waiting for this cpu to be released.

It is not possible to run with x13 multi. You have do it with x12 and increase HTT. I think the limit is somewhere in the 2500MHz area...

EDIT:
You can be happy with 2400MHz. You wouldn't gain any noticeable performance with higher speeds... I still would suggest a slight increase for NB and CPU NB voltages... But if it feels stable, then no use for overvolting.

Do you get a x5.00 option for RAM multi with those sticks? Btw, this review suggests that they should run at about 560MHz with default volts...

[CntdwnToExtn]

It is not possible to run with x13 multi. You have do it with x12 and increase HTT. I think the limit is somewhere in the 2500MHz area...

EDIT:
You can be happy with 2400MHz. You wouldn't gain any noticeable performance with higher speeds... I still would suggest a slight increase for NB and CPU NB voltages... But if it feels stable, then no use for overvolting.

Do you get a x5.00 option for RAM multi with those sticks? Btw, this review suggests that they should run at about 560MHz with default volts...

oh, did not realize i couldn't use the 13x...that explains a lot and no longer frustrated w/ that lol.
ty.
as for the voltages, i can increase the "Northbridge Voltage" as well? i read on the AMD forum not to touch that one and just use the CPU NB VID control...which kinda raised ???'s but left it alone anyway.

i do not get a x5.00. only x5.33...so 533mhz. not a lot of room for bus speed increases i guess.
just curious why EPP would state 500mhz and only boot 400mhz.
because i can't do x5.00 maybe? i dunno...i'm still nubbish w/ DDR2 RAM i guess.

[agentk7]

I noticed that Gigabyte has officially posted the F3 BIOS on their website:

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...S&FileID=14304

[nanohead]

I noticed that Gigabyte has officially posted the F3 BIOS on their website:

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...S&FileID=14304

I wonder if its the same one we've all been playing with, or is it another F3

[CntdwnToExtn]

only one way to find out XD

[nanohead]

Well, I loaded it from the Gigabyte website. It TOTALLY changes the behavior of the board. WAY WAY faster in nearly all respects... Its about time they fixed just the baseline performance of the board.

I haven't tried any stunts with it yet, just basic 9850 stability testing, no OC or anything like that.

And yes, they did remove the ganged-unganged option. It is default un ganged. I searched everywhere, including ctrl-F1 and underneath other options.

Its faster now, but why did they have to remove that option. All the memory tests I've done had ganged notably faster. I dunno whats with these guys

[CntdwnToExtn]

i loaded it as well over top the existing F3 i had.
no huge difference imo for the PII 940
still much longer POST (if POST's at all) over F3h
still getting 'page fault in non-paged area' which microsoft doesn't reference any vista problems w/ stop code 0x00000050
common intelligence would say "don't page in the non paging area then stuipd!"...but computers are too dumb.

[chew*]

How the heck do you get amd overdrive to work on this board?
Says I don't have a amd cpu installed........

I just want to see temps diff between this and bios........room is cold, my intel quad is running at 32C push/pull TRUE. This board is reporting sytem temps of 23C ( believable ) and cpu temps of 15C ( I highly doubt that ) on a OCZ vindicator that ran 20C higher loaded against the TRUE.


Also anyone have a fix for the audio before I waste time searching for a fix?

Anyone hitting a wall after 3.9 with F3/F3i?

[CntdwnToExtn]

i don't use AOD...i think there are some bugs w/ the newest release though.

are your readings temps in the bios?
mine shows anywhere from 13C stock to 22C @ 1.6v in BIOS. using HWMonitor it shows the cores are @ 28-29C stock and 36-38 @ 1.6v
CoreTemp 0.99.3 shows same idle temp
using OCZ Vendetta II w/ MX-2

what is the problem with the audio? what o/s?
not getting 5.1? or svchost using a lot of processor time?

i'm hitting a wall trying to achieve 3.9 on F3. haven't used F3i
it will boot once a day @ that speed, then a restart kills it.
'page fault in non-paged area' is my most common BSOD

3.8ghz is apps/games stable w/ 1 hour of small FFT prime then rounding error on core 2 or 3 for me so far.

[chew*]

Nah it was the HD audio bus issue but i already fixed it, vista users may have more issues however. Namely placing the hdaudibus.sys file in bin 32 as it won't install it unless it comes from that file.

Your using the gigabyte software to monititor temps? Guess I will have to deal with it for now.

Do the AMD cpu driver have to be installed? or is that only for someone intending to use cool and quiet? I know when I used 939 you didn't need it.

[chew*]

hmm this looks interesting, I may try to force flash this bios.....

http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Support/...ProductID=3004

http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Products...ctID=2887,3004

[Meizuman]

@ chew* DO NOT USE AOD 2.1.5 with this board.
2.1.4 works flawlessly, despite the GPU clock speed/temp reading not showing.

About HD audio bus issue: I had it (the device in device manager) disabled in XP. I don't remember if I installed the driver update for it. I use SB audigy SE with X-Fi mod drivers.

UD4H Bios: Interesting. It should not be an issue to try the UD4H Bios... since if it will not work, dual bios will (or should??) take care of that...

Have anyone of you checked the older F3 and this new Gigabyte F3 checksums? I will do this when I have the time.

Time to update the first post...

[chew*]

@ chew* DO NOT USE AOD 2.1.5 with this board.
2.1.4 works flawlessly, despite the GPU clock speed/temp reading not showing.

About HD audio bus issue: I had it (the device in device manager) disabled in XP. I don't remember if I installed the driver update for it. I use SB audigy SE with X-Fi mod drivers.

UD4H Bios: Interesting. It should not be an issue to try the UD4H Bios... since if it will not work, dual bios will (or should??) take care of that...

Have anyone of you checked the older F3 and this new Gigabyte F3 checksums? I will do this when I have the time.

Time to update the first post...

I will force the bios tonight, if all goes well and its decent maybe we can edit it for ease of installation for those that aren't comfortable force flashing. From what i can see the board has one extra cap and the sata is oriented differenty.......

[Meizuman]

Force flashing? (I admit it. I'm a nO0b)

One thing I like really much is that dual bios, gives a safer feeling and updating from USB is really easy.

[chew*]

Force flashing? (I admit it. I'm a nO0b)

One thing I like really much is that dual bios, gives a safer feeling and updating from USB is really easy.

Force flash, If i try to install the bios via qflash or an average flash utility it will say the bios ID is wrong for the board.

If I use say afudos.exe I can force the flash and pray that the damage is reversable....

I think the boards are similar enough to constitute it so I will take the plunge and test whether it can be reversed.

[chew*]

Benny, I've been playing around with bios's and I can 100% confirm that f3i and f3 hinders OC. I'd be intersted in what changes were made. F2 seems to be the best for overclocking although I haven't tried anything other than f2, f3 and f3i. ( effects available multipliers the most, 18 refuses to boot F3, F3i )

Anyone have F3h so I can test?

[Meizuman]

I decided to give a change to F3o and oh boy. The first time I tried it, I couldn't get to windows with my earlier (semi-stable) clocks. And the experience was so afwul that I went for another version very quickly. Then, the other day, a second time with F3o... I went to bios and set my earlier OC step by step, booting after every change I made. It worked flawlessly, really. And it booted quite quickly. I tried to shut it down once and few minutes after fired it up again with no issues. And it seemed stable. I fiddled with ACC some time but then as I was so tired, I thought I'll try it the next day. Well, shut it down and went sleeping. The next day as I switched it on, black screen, waiting, waiting, waiting and there it was, the POST screen. The other day it worked without any problem. AND the OC was a no-go. It really looks like this board has serious ups and downs. I have tried to treat it well but... Well, again time for BIOS update... Now I switched (again) back to F2. If only the HT link speed would work right with it.

Nevertheless, they had to work in some extent with this board's BIOS issues, because the "F3-family" is getting big. And since they have h, i, m, and o... plus the "nameless" F3... who nows if there is more of them... Maybe thats why they released the UD4H, because the DS4H is just so crappy that they can't get it to "work".

[chew*]

F2 really isn't that bad, I personally think they botched f3's on purpose do to inexperienced users and trying to keep RMA status down......

After all the average people that saw Macci do all those clocks will think they can acchieve the same results... I can just imagine bricked boards by the truckload

I tested and can 100% confirm ACC is about as useless as tits on a bull in f3 bios's, I personally think with all the complaints they just disabled it but left the option there however it no longer works....

Its far from perfect but not that bad if you figure out how to get around the issues. Stay away from 19 multi and higher from bios and use ACC and its a cakewalk.

I didn't get that other bios to work via forceflash, Had a weird error, If someone takes the bios apart and just renames the string to the DS4H its should work like a breeze.

[nanohead]

F2 really isn't that bad, I personally think they botched f3's on purpose do to inexperienced users and trying to keep RMA status down......

After all the average people that saw Macci do all those clocks will think they can acchieve the same results... I can just imagine bricked boards by the truckload

I tested and can 100% confirm ACC is about as useless as tits on a bull in f3 bios's, I personally think with all the complaints they just disabled it but left the option there however it no longer works....

Its far from perfect but not that bad if you figure out how to get around the issues. Stay away from 19 multi and higher from bios and use ACC and its a cakewalk.

I didn't get that other bios to work via forceflash, Had a weird error, If someone takes the bios apart and just renames the string to the DS4H its should work like a breeze.

Yeah, these guys keep borking the board more and more. I can't even understand what they're thinking (or not thinking for that matter). F3 sped up the boot/post cycle enough to make me think it was better, but everything else doesn't work.

Maybe your conspiracy theory is correct

[chew*]

For those having issues with Page file in non paged are while attempting to OC on F3 and F3i Try pulling 2 sticks of ram out as it appears this is the cause of it when running 4x1gig.

If anyone is experiencing this with 2x2gig sticks please let me know.

[CntdwnToExtn]

i get that error with 2x2gig

2x2gig Mushkin Redline XP PC2-8000
both in slots 1/2 and 3/4
memtest86 said it passed


i'll pull out 1 stick maybe though to see what this does

i get this error at any 3.9ghz setting of Bus x multi. voltages anywhere from 1.500 to 1.625
both F3h and F3

[chew*]

i get that error with 2x2gig

2x2gig Mushkin Redline XP PC2-8000
both in slots 1/2 and 3/4
memtest86 said it passed


i'll pull out 1 stick maybe though to see what this does

i get this error at any 3.9ghz setting of Bus x multi. voltages anywhere from 1.500 to 1.625
both F3h and F3

OK so its a 4 gig problem then, not just a 4 slots full issue, with 2gigs installed 3.9+ is a breeze. I should have a new bios friday, I will find out if I can distribute it.

[diekul]

Got some problems too over here. Just installed 2x2gb OCZ spec ops 800mhz ram and suddenly i got an htt wall at 232mhz (with bios f3, the one before it was on the GB site). Gonna try bios F2 tomorrow and F3.