ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger,

Everest "write" and "copy" bandwidths, are affected directly by the CPU amount of cache. The 45nm CPU's have 6MB L2 (x2) and 65nm CPU's have 4MB L2 (x2).
So a 45nm CPU will have a much much higher "write" and "copy" bandwidth, then a 65nm CPU.

The other values, "read" and "latency" aren't affected my the CPU cache. And they are the only ones comparable between a 65nm CPU and 45nm CPU.

That is why those "write" and "copy" values are a bit low, because of my 65nm CPU. These days people are used to 45nm results and so.

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Simps

Thanks I'm well a where what the differences are in 65nm and 45nm cpu's and how they affect bandwidth.
So again I'll ask you what ram is that?

well im on the asus merry-go round once again.i call and ask to talk to the manager and the phone jockeys take my info and give me a new support ticket and they say someone will call,and of course if its like the last time no one does,so ill have to call again and do it all over again with someone else and the will tell me something similar about someone calling me but they never do so i call again this time im a little upset,cant explain myself clearly then they get some inkling of what im talking about and take some more info and tell me that they will have someone call me in the next hour,but no one does,and then guess what happens?nothing..........that is untill i call them again and again and again.

Perhaps your being alittle too polite, maybe take a royal dump all over someone, then say this is unacceptable you would like to speak with a supervisor.
Once he/her gets on the phone you will have to tone it down anotch or 2 or they will hang up on you....explain the problem and ask to be elevated to level 3 tech, once there remind the guy how much the board cost's, that your not some douche bag with more money than brains and refuse anything less than an upgrade, it worked for me and my Max X38 and it will work for you if your just irritating enough without crossing the line.

[CryptiK]

I got an RMA approved for my MIIF today, they're going to do the cross-ship method. I'm not sure if I'm going to keep the replacement or not as I'm having a lot of fun with my DFI LT P35 and my Gigabyte EP45 UD3P...

IMHO I think the LT P35 and the UD3P are much more capable ram clocking boards than the M2F. I still can't get 541 FSB & 650MHz to pass SPI32M, nor get 434 FSB & 650 MHz to pass. It's beyond me why, that isn't even pushing it frequency or FSB wise. My P5K could do that even, so could my mates LT P35.

I can get 534 FSB & 640 MHz to pass, but as soon as I crank up the multi at the same settings it fails straight away and no amount of skewing will make it stable. This board is a nightmare to bench on.

If I were you I'd sell it as new when you get it back (after testing it to make sure it works of course), they are still really expensive boards so if you took ~$100 off retail price you'd sell it in no time.

I can give it try for you...
You mean 1:2 divider, as a 400FSB giving DDR2-1600?
Is that right?

Yes, that's the one. 333 FSB & 666 MHz would be easier to test though, however my board wont boot no matter what I set on the 1:2 divider. I'm quite sure it's broken and Asus just never expected anyone to try and use it and find out.

Just to reply Simps on Gigabyte Thread, I won't be answering any questions here only there to avoid people getting upset. This is Asus thread so discussions should be Asus only...

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I know it's not a competition there is nothing to compete for, but sometimes it sounds like you underestimate engineers, if they build something to work with 6 Phase it's because they know what they are doing. Just because Asus has 16 Phase doesn't mean they can hold anything better. In fact as far as I'm concern the smallest route between to points is still a straight line...

Here:

[System Setup]
CPU: Q9650@3500Mhz 500x7
Voltages:
VCORE=1.29V
VTT=1.20V
VPLL=1.5V
VNB=1.26V
VSB=1.1V
VDIMM=2.24V
Mobo: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
Cooler: Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer
Ram: 2 x 2Gb - 4gb G.Skill Pi 9600 @1200 5-5-4-15
Video: X1300
PSU: OCZ Powerstream 520w Adj


[Stability and Memory Benchmark Testing]
I can't show Prime95 now as I don't have 7hrs of the day, but testing was done using IBT Max and HCi Memtest 3.8 150%. If my systems passes those 2they can Prime95 all year. But I can Prime95 during the week if you insist.

Another note is that Everest OSD doesn't show much info on this board only the stuff is on screen so you have to see all voltages on ET6 (Easy Tuner 6).


IBT 35 Loops Maximum Stress starting - LOAD (I can only see pics of your system on Idle)
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/s...R/a47f50c9.jpg


IBT 35 Loops Maximum Stress ending -IDLE
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/s...R/67fcc5b3.jpg


HCI Memtest 3.8
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/s...R/fff6555e.jpg


DDR2 500x7 FSB 1200Mhz Bandwith
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/s...R/248a7998.jpg

This board is pretty much a joy to use, so easy you can hit and tweak and you can get the job done.

No matter how low volts you use this board will use less and remain stable and no matter how high fsb you want this board will keep breaking records with Quads.

Hope that settles the friendly inter-thread challenge

Nice work, that board is great and your quad is a monster, I saw some of your results with it (4.4GHz stable) and was very impressed. You have got the hang of the Gigabyte well for a DFI aficionado.

well im on the asus merry-go round once again.i call and ask to talk to the manager and the phone jockeys take my info and give me a new support ticket and they say someone will call,and of course if its like the last time no one does,so ill have to call again and do it all over again with someone else and the will tell me something similar about someone calling me but they never do so i call again this time im a little upset,cant explain myself clearly then they get some inkling of what im talking about and take some more info and tell me that they will have someone call me in the next hour,but no one does,and then guess what happens?nothing..........that is untill i call them again and again and again.

That's appalling service, I had no idea Asus were so bad. Heh, now I think back, Grnfinger actually convinced them to upgrade him after the nightmare he went through, and they sent him the wrong board. They can't even make up for their bad service & faulty hardware properly

Hope you have better luck with them.

[seban]

I got this strange issue with MF2 and downloading.

When I start a file with IDM it goes let's say 2.5mb/sec then next file from list would go 2.3mb/sec and after 1h file will go 1.5mb/sec and the decrease rate will gradualy slow down so it is less noticeable but still present.

Probably you would say that my provider is stuffed and that can happen but when I put some speed meter or I watch firewall activity it will state all the time 2.5mb/sec and in fact I got very stable connection and 95% of time it is 2.5mb/sec.

Also when I stop download the meters and firewall will still be showing full activity and it will not drop down - and those are also not fake values because when I play some on line games pings r affected as with 100% loaded connection.

I already tested both LAN ports and in addition USB Wifi Stick - all the same. On my previous NF4 board all was fine and whenever I dont use network I download 24/7 so I am sure there was no issue like this.

The only solution I discovered "for hanging full load" is to disable Network adapter which is currently in use and re-enable it again (all from system lvl). Then it is downloading again full speed and slowly slowing down.

Very irritating.

Anybody saw something like this on their systems? Can you test it?

Cheers

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I just bought a new HDTV and have a blu-ray drive in the mail to me that I want to output to the TV.
I have a 4870x2, so I'm HDCP compliant there. However, I want to output the audio via the onboard Optical SPDIF to my 7.1 receiver.

Hi m8,

I dont have ATI card but as far as I know they got DVI to HDMI adapter and build in audio chip to passthrough PCM sound up to 5.1 (DTS and DD5.1) so I would do it this way on your place and forget onboard spdif. With HDMI it is cheaper and less cables also it is less stress and tuning then with onboard spdif.

Unfortunately neither your ATI or onbaord will be able to passthrough any 7.1 standard to your amplituner (so no MHD DTS and or HD DD 7.1 for you my friend). If you would like to pass through any of HD Audio formats you would need to buy ASUS 1.3 Audio card sorry cant remember full name at the moment.

As an alternative you can decode all formats on your PC and send them via analog cables but then your room with all cabling all over the place, would look more like rain forest rather than cozy little cinema (also if you would like to go this route then again you need good audio card for nice sound quality as all sounds would be generated by it - and MF2 free addition is kind of joke - for pass through you need anything even 5e card would do as all processing would be done by amplituner).

There are nice forums focused on HTCP and HDTV like http://www.avforums.com/ or http://www.avsforum.com/ you can get all knowledge and answerer you need there.

[ndGreg]

As stated in my last post, after testing to get NB GTL I had 3 values that stopped Prime @ 9 minutes. -40, -60, & -65.
Not sure if this would make any difference or be correct, but what I did was, Ran Everest Cache and Memory Benchmark, and found that -60 had the better latency.
So thats what I went with.
-40= 54.1ns
-60= 53.9ns
-65= 54.2ns