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    I totally agree that for benching, the Maximus II Formula will not be the best choice, and I never said that. We know Biostar P45 is a better bencher, DFI p45 DK is more efficient on superpi, and as you said, those Gigabyte UD3P are showing some nice FSB clocks and mem clocks for benching too. And there are other examples out there.

    But as I said before, I am talking about 24/7. About the memory issue, YES, it is true, but, as an example, for a screenshot a 12000mb/s is very different from a 10000mb/s on everest. But on a day to day performance on games or other applications, it means absolutely nothing. Other things are much more important as stability, and low volts for higher solid stable clocks, and more important, SAFFER volts for 24/7 use for years.

    Maximus II Formula can keep overclocks, with lower volts then all other boards (I am saying this, because I visit the other board threads, and I can compare), including your UD3P. MIIF 16 phase power do make a difference on vcore and vFSB against the 6 power design of the UD3P, and the 8 - 12 power design of other boards. Mosfets on MIIF will ALWAYS be cooler then on those other boards, and more stable at very high quad clocks and FSB. Maybe it has some problems clocking ram at some point, but that is far beyond a 24/7 use situation anyway.

    The thing I don't like much about "showing a screenshot" or just benching for the highest number, is that it makes no sense for me. Everybody would be reaching 550 - 560FSB on quads, for a screenshot, if they were crazy enough to push 1.8 vFSB and 1.75vPLL, like NapalmV5 and others were doing. Everybody would be showing 12.000mb/s on everest, if they would push their 2.1v rated mem to 2.4v or so.
    There is no secret. I is just plain simple and easy. Buy the best and expensive hardware, and risk it by pushing crazy volts. You will get some nice numbers and screenshots for sure.

    Anyway, I don't have the money, and I never killed a computer part. Not even a single memory stick. I hope I can keep it that way... Except for the money part of course =/

    I will quote Leeghoofd on this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    The GB boards have got the A3 rev of the NB and the board pushes way more volts... for 24/7 I prefer the Asus board as I got the same clockspeed with way less NB and FSB term voltage... for benching the Gb might be better... but does that NB get scorching hot...
    Don't get me wrong, this is xtremesystems, and to push it is the way to go here. I believe there is space for everybody. For the extreme benchers, and also for the ones only interested in 24/7 operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simps View Post
    I totally agree that for benching, the Maximus II Formula will not be the best choice, and I never said that. We know Biostar P45 is a better bencher, DFI p45 DK is more efficient on superpi, and as you said, those Gigabyte UD3P are showing some nice FSB clocks and mem clocks for benching too. And there are other examples out there.

    But as I said before, I am talking about 24/7. About the memory issue, YES, it is true, but, as an example, for a screenshot a 12000mb/s is very different from a 10000mb/s on everest. But on a day to day performance on games or other applications, it means absolutely nothing. Other things are much more important as stability, and low volts for higher solid stable clocks, and more important, SAFFER volts for 24/7 use for years.

    Maximus II Formula can keep overclocks, with lower volts then all other boards (I am saying this, because I visit the other board threads, and I can compare), including your UD3P. MIIF 16 phase power do make a difference on vcore and vFSB against the 6 power design of the UD3P, and the 8 - 12 power design of other boards. Mosfets on MIIF will ALWAYS be cooler then on those other boards, and more stable at very high quad clocks. Maybe it has some problems clocking ram at some point, but that is far beyond a 24/7 use situation anyway.

    I will quote Leeghoofd on this:


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    No one was arguing your claim
    I like the MIIF its a solid board but lacking in a mature bios to really show its true potential. There are many boards that will clock chips with low volts the MIIF is not alone in this catagory, DFI will beat this board easy but the bios is what scares ppl off.
    You have done a great job here and have made a very valuble contrabution, you should be proud. My wife is reading your guide and will try to overclock my second MIIF board with a Q6700 and then a E8400. It will be interesting to see her results based on your guide.

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    Wow, I am curious to see what can she achieve with that Q6700. Please give us some feedback on that!

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    I'm about to put my MIIF and Q6600 back together, and use your guide. It oughta be a better combo than this friggin DFI x48 board.... Ugh....
    X299X Aorus Master
    I9 10920x
    32gb Crucial Ballistix DDR4-4000
    EVGA 2070 Super x2
    Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
    4 512gb Silicon Power NVME
    4 480 Adata SSD
    2 1tb HGST 7200rpm 2.5 drives
    X-Fi Titanium
    1200 watt Lepa
    Custom water-cooled View 51TG



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