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    Looks like it's Xmas time all over again for both of us grn, Look what AMD sent me

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Looks like it's Xmas time all over again for both of us grn, Look what AMD sent me

    thinking about going green here...

    do me a favor chew and take a pic of the back of the cpu. i want to verify that 920's and 940's have 940 pins and not 938 like the am3 parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    ive got a 925es am3 but no motherboard.

    thinking about going green here...

    do me a favor chew and take a pic of the back of the cpu. i want to verify that 920's and 940's have 940 pins and not 938 like the am3 parts.
    I got a couple pics of the internet from a reliable source take a look, when I open the box I'll take another. That gigabyte board looks sweet for that chip btw

    AM2 left AM3 right. Even though the socket is pinned in the corner for AM3 they arent using it, at least not yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Looks like it's Xmas time all over again for both of us grn, Look what AMD sent me
    Lets see some pr0n

    I have been waiting to see what AMD can do this time around.
    My FX-60 was the last AMD chip I bought and it kick'd a$$

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    ah, good.



    pr0n mabye tonight or tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Lets see some pr0n

    I have been waiting to see what AMD can do this time around.
    My FX-60 was the last AMD chip I bought and it kick'd a$$
    Yah I will have pr0n soon, board wasn't avaialble that I wanted to use..will be here monday...I will have pr0n in the highest sense as well, sockets easier to insulate
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    Its lonely in here grn maybe this will convince you to grab another board.

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    Hey Grnfinger have you run Vantage with your shiny new 4870X2 yet? When you get your waterblock installed I'd like to see what OC you get on it. BTW, check out my little mini-review of the XSPC Delrin full coverage block. I have quite a bit of temp data there.
    My max bench stable OC is 862/1000 (maybe more on memory, haven't tried yet.) I'm still testing 24/7 gaming stability...I originally thought I was good at 852/1000, but I'm getting a hard lockup and artifacts every so often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Its lonely in here grn maybe this will convince you to grab another board.
    I'm thinking real hard on grabbing one from the 4sale section, I really miss the board, it was alot of fun

    Quote Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
    Hey Grnfinger have you run Vantage with your shiny new 4870X2 yet? When you get your waterblock installed I'd like to see what OC you get on it. BTW, check out my little mini-review of the XSPC Delrin full coverage block. I have quite a bit of temp data there.
    My max bench stable OC is 862/1000 (maybe more on memory, haven't tried yet.) I'm still testing 24/7 gaming stability...I originally thought I was good at 852/1000, but I'm getting a hard lockup and artifacts every so often.
    I hope to atleast run it this weekend on air, I will look at the block you recommended today.
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    I have 2x mcw60s on my 4870 x2; benching at 842/1000 and closing in on 25k '06. See sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    I have 2x mcw60s on my 4870 x2; benching at 842/1000 and closing in on 25k '06. See sig.
    zucker is that a 1gig or 2g, any idea how much diff it makes point wise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    zucker is that a 1gig or 2g, any idea how much diff it makes point wise?
    It's the 2GB x2 card, I have no idea what 2x 4870 1GBs do.

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    would prolly not make a difference unless you're gaming at > 1920x1080, but I guess with GPUs its always the more, the merrier. I didn't even know there were 1Gb versions, isn't the standard amount on the 4870 1Gb meaning the X2 would need at least 2Gb to rival 2 seperate HD4870s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by les_paulde View Post
    would prolly not make a difference unless you're gaming at > 1920x1080, but I guess with GPUs its always the more, the merrier. I didn't even know there were 1Gb versions, isn't the standard amount on the 4870 1Gb meaning the X2 would need at least 2Gb to rival 2 seperate HD4870s?
    Heh, the 4870 512mb is the standard version, the 1gb is the step up.....I just looked though, I guess they don't make a 1gig 4870 x2.....I was assuming they did based on single 4870's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    I have 2x mcw60s on my 4870 x2; benching at 842/1000 and closing in on 25k '06. See sig.
    If not to much hassle would you mind taking a pic of the card with the MCW60's mounted.
    I'm block shopping now and I have 1 MCW60 on the shelf so another would do untill I grab a full coverage.
    And whats your opinion on the CoolerMaster HAF case? I see you have one and I'm looking for a new case for my i7 build, looking to mount a PA120.3 and PA120.1 internally

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    If not to much hassle would you mind taking a pic of the card with the MCW60's mounted.
    I'm block shopping now and I have 1 MCW60 on the shelf so another would do untill I grab a full coverage.
    And whats your opinion on the CoolerMaster HAF case? I see you have one and I'm looking for a new case for my i7 build, looking to mount a PA120.3 and PA120.1 internally

    Thanks
    I'll do that sometime tonight or early tomorrow morning, it's really a straight forward strip and slap on kinda mount, except for removing the outer mounting shell of the mcw60s. The card is naked and actually running way cooler than before as it seems the heat from the cores were spreading to the metal shell of the stock cooler. About the HAF, I couldn't recommend a better case for either aircooling ([HAF is actually High Air Flow) or water cooling, in the price category. Highly recommend and you'll be blown away by how much space you have to work with. I got loads of crap in mine.

    Edit: How do you guys get your wives to become overclockers? Please, please do tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    If not to much hassle would you mind taking a pic of the card with the MCW60's mounted.
    I'm block shopping now and I have 1 MCW60 on the shelf so another would do untill I grab a full coverage.
    And whats your opinion on the CoolerMaster HAF case? I see you have one and I'm looking for a new case for my i7 build, looking to mount a PA120.3 and PA120.1 internally

    Thanks
    Grnfinger, just to warn you, i7 is like a nuclear reactor.

    I recommend a dedicated loop for the CPU with a 120.3

    I'm on a 120.2 in a dedicated loop right now and at 1.43v I'm getting up to 80C under Linpack full load.

    Crazy hot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlojack View Post
    Grnfinger, just to warn you, i7 is like a nuclear reactor.

    I recommend a dedicated loop for the CPU with a 120.3

    I'm on a 120.2 in a dedicated loop right now and at 1.43v I'm getting up to 80C under Linpack full load.

    Crazy hot!
    Looks like its time to shift from computer watercooling equipment to High powered pumps with performance car radiators and window sized fans. It's been done before. Works better IMO anyway, larger surface area for cooling and makes a longer pass ( has more time to be cooled ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    I'll do that sometime tonight or early tomorrow morning, it's really a straight forward strip and slap on kinda mount, except for removing the outer mounting shell of the mcw60s. The card is naked and actually running way cooler than before as it seems the heat from the cores were spreading to the metal shell of the stock cooler. About the HAF, I couldn't recommend a better case for either aircooling ([HAF is actually High Air Flow) or water cooling, in the price category. Highly recommend and you'll be blown away by how much space you have to work with. I got loads of crap in mine.

    Edit: How do you guys get your wives to become overclockers? Please, please do tell.
    Thanks for your time, if the blocks look decent I'm going MCW60's
    I like the case as well wanted to hear some feedback from an actual owner, now you have convinced me.
    Getting the wife to play ball was easy, she actually wants to spend time with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by zlojack View Post
    Grnfinger, just to warn you, i7 is like a nuclear reactor.

    I recommend a dedicated loop for the CPU with a 120.3

    I'm on a 120.2 in a dedicated loop right now and at 1.43v I'm getting up to 80C under Linpack full load.

    Crazy hot!
    Thanks for teh info, looking at 120.3 for CPU and full coverage block for mainboard, and then a PA120.1 or a MCW220 for teh gpu depending on temps is the plan, if required I can make concessions.
    Is that Mushkin Tri Channel ram any good Jack?
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    Here Grnfinger, I forgot to post a link of the mini-review on the XSPC block. I'm really enjoying it....especially for the price. I already had 2 MCW60s, but after buying the Caldera block it would only be ~50 away from the XSPC, so I opted for it.
    I'm really glad I did too, as it keeps all of the components very cool.

    Here are some pics:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Thanks for your time, if the blocks look decent I'm going MCW60's
    I like the case as well wanted to hear some feedback from an actual owner, now you have convinced me.
    Getting the wife to play ball was easy, she actually wants to spend time with me

    Last run of my 3870X2....well maybe last run


    Thanks for teh info, looking at 120.3 for CPU and full coverage block for mainboard, and then a PA120.1 or a MCW220 for teh gpu depending on temps is the plan, if required I can make concessions.
    Is that Mushkin Tri Channel ram any good Jack?
    No problem, and impressive run with that quad of yours, and a 3870x2. I have 25k in my firm clutches now. A little bump in clocks should push me over the edge.
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    HHmmmm....I should install 06 on my rig. I haven't even run it since I got my 4870X2.

    Bah! I'm getting that openal32.dll error in Vista x64.......I thought I just had to reinstall openal, but it's not working. I'll post results as soon as I get the bench working.

    Ok I have it figured out. I'm currently running 06. It seems that it's more stressful on the GPU than vantage, as I have hard locked twice in FireFly Forest at 852 MHz and 842......now I'm backing down to 837. I was stable at least at 852 in Vantage......maybe even higher
    Yep it just looks like good old fashioned instability in FireFly Forest. It's a bit strange considering that I'm stable much higher in Vantage, but no worries.

    My 4870X2 runs so cool with this block.....it's just begging for voltage. I really don't have the steady hands to volt mod (or the balls TBH), so I guess it's BIOS mod or nothing (which most likely means nothing.)

    I need to clock this CPU higher.....score isn't very good compared to others.
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    "Bigger Rads" Exactly what I was talking about all last year. I did most of my water cooling test on a chiller based on American GM big block heater cores. I used one big one from my 64 Eldorado in a series w/ a few more of same size. I also set a few in a water bath chiller. So my 2nd thought was exactly the big block 4 row flat tube copper. Now these get rid of so much heat that the next step is now to take in outside fresh air and exchaulst right back out. In the summer the heat was too much for me in a 12x16 office so I can imagine a smaller 10x12 room.

    I'm building one of these i7's now and it does look like a hot overclocker.
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    So has anyone OCed a Q9550 on this board? I'm thinking about buying one to replace my Q6600 when those price drops kick in next week......I see people hitting 4.2 on air with some of these 45nm chips, so I should be able to do some damage with my water setup.
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    I'm in the process of overclocking my new E0 Q9550 on a rampaged P5E dlx (x48) and hit 4Ghz quite painlessly (471*8.5). I'm afraid temperatures seem not to be the limiting factor on these 45nms but your mobo's fsb capabilities instead, but keeping her cool is always a good idea I guess... Now I need quite a lot of voltage to get her up further but I'm really curious how far I can push it. Currently at 1.36v for 4 Ghz, so I should have some headroom... I am happy in comparison to my Q6600 though, that chip was a dog that wouldnt go over 3700mhz..

    What kinda temperatures are people getting here with which voltages under water as I'm not sure if mine are normal for water (idling ~41C, load ~60C)? Also I was wondering what vCore and FSB VTT should be considered safe for 24/7 use, as people's opinions on this seems to vary greatly.
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