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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Alot of cases are coming with an E sata port so it's not that big of a deal, CM690 is a popular case that has it.
    My mobo is seating on the box it came in

    Then, if i used a case it would still suck for me as i don't like to connect stuff on the front if it requires a cable, Murphy's law says you will accidentally hook the cable and take part in a hardware mess

    This is a nice mobo tho'.
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    i could explain the external-sata design issue,
    why GIGABYTE use the extendted sata not use a "e-sata"

    first, the sata goes from SB, if you pull it to i/o panel, it goes a long way
    and the singal from internal pcb is not that clear, also will reduce singnal quality, and affect other componets ( from lab test max length from e-sata only 1.5M). and even you use a "e-sata" you need to prepare a "external-power cable" for your device, i can't see anything good here.( maybe it has good looking?)

    and like GBT's way, sata goes from SB, then use a extension, the signal
    is directly from SB and goes to extension sata, im sure the extension cable quality is very good,you can use 2M length sata connect to the extension still work well, also you have a power on the extension,

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    Quote Originally Posted by hicookie View Post
    i could explain the external-sata design issue,
    why GIGABYTE use the extendted sata not use a "e-sata"

    first, the sata goes from SB, if you pull it to i/o panel, it goes a long way
    and the singal from internal pcb is not that clear, also will reduce singnal quality, and affect other componets ( from lab test max length from e-sata only 1.5M). and even you use a "e-sata" you need to prepare a "external-power cable" for your device, i can't see anything good here.( maybe it has good looking?)

    and like GBT's way, sata goes from SB, then use a extension, the signal
    is directly from SB and goes to extension sata, im sure the extension cable quality is very good,you can use 2M length sata connect to the extension still work well, also you have a power on the extension,
    No big deal anyway, if it performs and is priced correctly (which is often the case here for Gigabyte mobos) i would consider buying it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveman787 View Post
    Yeah some people do still have IDE drives and pci sound cards.
    Yes, there are still people with IDE and pci devices, but, most mobo manufacturers release so many different models it woudn't really matter if atleast one of them would come without them.
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    To be clear about PWM section, it is 8+2 phases for CPU/IMC.
    Rest as stated by Caveman!

    Power section is one of the strong points of GBT top end boards. My DQ6 uses same design and there is no way of any voltage fluctuation up to 1.88V!

    Also if BIOS will be similar to what we have on DQ6 then max CPU vCore will be 2.05V
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    8+2 phase
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    Quote Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck View Post
    8+2 phase
    Hehe that reminds me of the funny discussion in another thread. I guess everything changed now
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    Hope it preforms as good as it looks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    Hehe that reminds me of the funny discussion in another thread. I guess everything changed now
    not sure I follow you? are you referring to the 790FX-DQ6 thread? not sure what would change.

    EDIT: NM I remember what your talking about now.
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    pretty hard to fault
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    I believe he's refering to the i7 discussion on how having a ton of phases is essentially useless and not needed.

    In truth it's not if your not overclocking and the power draw isn't immense.

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    Nice looking board but i would not get it .It needs more PCIe slots 2 just don't get the job done .For me 3 is the min. and 4 is better .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryboto View Post
    I'll never understand why manufacturers put a flat finless cap on their NB heatsinks...kinda impedes heat transfer...
    I can hazard a guess that it is a design for airflow coming from the cpu cooler (stock coolers exhaust radially around the socket area). Whether is is more effective than un-capped i'll leave that up to the designers.

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    even RAM need individual power supply
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    Only if it would have 2 free PCI slots when 2 double hight gfx card are in place.

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    FINALLY!!! Now maybe some of the idiot fanbois will admit that their ty current mobos really do look like they are from 2002. If this had a clear cmos button on the back I'd pick this thing up, really surprised it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogPO View Post
    This board looks killer.
    But why they still keep floppy connector and IDE. Also PCI should be ditched.
    Hey, I still use a PCI sound card

    Quote Originally Posted by Glow9 View Post
    FINALLY!!! Now maybe some of the idiot fanbois will admit that their ty current mobos really do look like they are from 2002. If this had a clear cmos button on the back I'd pick this thing up, really surprised it doesn't.
    Clear CMOS button on back is a bad idea IMO. Bump it, oh crap...
    Maybe a jumper or something, my DFI 790FX-M2RS had that but it was flush with the IO shield so you couldn't really use it too easily anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
    To be clear about PWM section, it is 8+2 phases for CPU/IMC.
    Quote Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck View Post
    8+2 phase
    The PWM controller is a chip that supports 6 phases at max so there's no way this thing has 8 real CPU phases. Thus, it is actually 4 phases with parallel inductors per phase, it doesn't seem there would be doubled FETs per phase as I think the PWM area is too small.
    Quote Originally Posted by Glow9 View Post
    FINALLY!!! Now maybe some of the idiot fanbois will admit that their (...) current mobos really do look like they are from 2002. If this had a clear cmos button on the back I'd pick this thing up, really surprised it doesn't.
    These current "banana" mobos allow OC'ing Deneb way over 6GHz so I'm not sure what you're foaming about.
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    even RAM need individual power supply
    Every board in the last 15 year, since SDR-SDRAM became obsolete has had dedicated power supply for RAM.
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    Thats a nice looking board coming from GB! I wont miss looking at that damn orange any time soon.
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    Nice board, The colors scheme is better for the eye, then the old rainbow color one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
    Hey, I still use a PCI sound card



    Clear CMOS button on back is a bad idea IMO. Bump it, oh crap...
    Maybe a jumper or something, my DFI 790FX-M2RS had that but it was flush with the IO shield so you couldn't really use it too easily anyway
    Spark I have it on my asus, its inset a little has an even ridge that the button sits in, very hard to hit it by accident. Of course with the asus you hardly ever need it becasue if you get a failed OC it just loads defaults anyway on the next boot.....

    Would be a nice addition, I'm just happy they added power and reset.
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    CLR Cmos jumper is still difficult to reach if there is some monster GFX card... One thing I hate in my DS4H.

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    Any update on pricing? Has anyone see it around in stores ?

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    The power/reset button placement seems bad to me... Looks like some stout hardware otherwise!
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    Does this board support the following cpu?
    AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...AMD-_-19103471

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