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    Testing with DDR2-800 just isn't proper these days. Even if the difference is small, the fact remains that DDR2-1066 memory is absolutely pedestrian. Anyone buying into the platform now for Phenom II is going to be getting DDR2-1066 unless they are completely clueless. In the enthusiast circles (the people interested in upgrading from a current AM2+ platform), there's also a high likelihood of already having DDR2-1066. Eight freakin' gigabytes of CL5 DDR2-1066 now costs $100 flat, so it isn't like the upgrade is expensive or outlandish. Anyone reviewing the Phenom II is providing information to people who are knowingly buying into the end of a platform. Soon all PII chips will be superseded by AM3 models. Anyone wanting to use DDR3 will have to chuck their current Phenom II anyway. There's no reason this late in the game to showcase the chip outside of its best light--it's proper light. This means not being retarded: Use some cheap-as-dirt 1066 as it best represents the product with average, cheap support hardware.

    Even if the difference between DDR2-800 and DDR2-1066 is 0.05% on average, it's the proper type of memory to test with at this point since it's the standard. Even Phenom was 1066 compliant with two sticks.
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