AMD Phenom II Review Thread

**LowRun** · 01-09-2009, 04:46 PM

Funny that the ones that keep on whining about how disappointed they are or how they were hoping for a better showing from AMD are the same ones that were telling us to not believe the hype, seems like they couldn't take their own advice

ing hypocrites

**Macadamia** · 01-09-2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by LowRun

Funny that the ones that keep on whining about how disappointed they are or how they were hoping for a better showing from AMD are the same ones that were telling us to not believe the hype, seems like they couldn't take their own advice

ing hypocrites

QFT, right on.

**STaRGaZeR** · 01-09-2009, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by LowRun

Funny that the ones that keep on whining about how disappointed they are or how they were hoping for a better showing from AMD are the same ones that were telling us to not believe the hype, seems like they couldn't take their own advice

ing hypocrites

I said here multiple times not to believe the hype and get real. I'm not disappointed at all, this is just as expected. So don't generalize.

**Hornet331** · 01-09-2009, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by AbelJemka

I think that GA-EX58-UD3R doesn't support SLI Hornet331 and that GA-EX58-UD4P PCI-E configuration is 16x+16x+8x, and GA-EX58-DS4 is 16X+8x+8x.

maybe i mixed some things up, but thats not the point. THe point was that P55 boards will easly will be under 150€ even less.

**Aberration** · 01-09-2009, 05:27 PM

Just delete this thread already.

Its about PII reviews and nothing else.

FFS.

**G0ldBr1ck** · 01-09-2009, 05:35 PM

I think PHII is about what all of us expected. Its just that some of us looked forward to PHII's good points and some looked forward to PHII's weak points.

**cegras** · 01-09-2009, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Shintai

You could run an i7 with 2 phases if you liked. Got nothing to do with power consumption. More phases=more finetune for overclockers aswell as more stable supply. But also larger inefficiency.

You would also be amazed I guess on how few phases most server MBs got...

This one is 6 phases for example:
http://www.rackmountpro.com/imagevie...LUS.jpg&type=0

Intels own Smackover X58 board is 6 phases aswell. Asus T6T is 4 phases I think. Asus TEB-D is 5 phases. Flextronics TX65H is 5. MSI MS9199 is 3 or 4.

I highly doubt you can run an i7 with two phases. Maybe if you do something exotic in the cooling solution. Also, more phases translates to less time each phase is on for.

**roofsniper** · 01-09-2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck

I think PHII is about what all of us expected. Its just that some of us looked forward to PHII's good points and some looked forward to PHII's weak points.

lol

it seems that way

im happy with phenom II. i wasn't looking for it to beat intel out at anything and really i wouldn't care if it did anyway, just maybe then the trolls would disappear. performance of phenom I to phenom II is all that mattered to me and phenom II destroyed the original phenom. the new cool and quiet and power consumption are some nice key points. not to mention how well it can overclock. im overclocking until when i don't like the temps anymore, not the max of the chip. with how cool it runs and the heat seems to scale well when it overclocks im really happy with it.

**Donnie27** · 01-09-2009, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by roofsniper

lol

it seems that way

im happy with phenom II. i wasn't looking for it to beat intel out at anything and really i wouldn't care if it did anyway, just maybe then the trolls would disappear. performance of phenom I to phenom II is all that mattered to me and phenom II destroyed the original phenom. the new cool and quiet and power consumption are some nice key points. not to mention how well it can overclock. im overclocking until when i don't like the temps anymore, not the max of the chip. with how cool it runs and the heat seems to scale well when it overclocks im really happy with it.

How can you tell what THE temp is when more than one reviewer said AMD's temp sensor/probe didn't work right?

**roofsniper** · 01-09-2009, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Donnie27

How can you tell what temp it is when more than one reviewer said AMD's temp sensor/probe didn't work right?

hmmmm what does that have to do with my post? or are we just listing what we don't like about phenom II now?

**Epsilon84** · 01-09-2009, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by roofsniper

lol

it seems that way

im happy with phenom II. i wasn't looking for it to beat intel out at anything and really i wouldn't care if it did anyway, just maybe then the trolls would disappear. performance of phenom I to phenom II is all that mattered to me and phenom II destroyed the original phenom. the new cool and quiet and power consumption are some nice key points. not to mention how well it can overclock. im overclocking until when i don't like the temps anymore, not the max of the chip. with how cool it runs and the heat seems to scale well when it overclocks im really happy with it.

It all depends on your expectations of course. I was skeptical at first but was then (stupidly, in hindsight) caught up in all the hype about easy 4GHz+ overclocks on air and Yorkfield levels of IPC, when in reality it requires effort to get high 3GHz overclocks and struggles to match Kentsfield per clock.

All in all I guess I am slightly disappointed in PII after all the hype, but looking at the bigger picture it really ain't that bad, its a respectable CPU at a good price, and I am glad that AMD users finally have a decent CPU that has good performance, overclocking and power consumption. If nothing else it will bring increased competition to the market and I'm looking forward to Intel cutting Yorkfield prices in response.

**mongoled** · 01-09-2009, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Donnie27

How can you tell what temp it is when more than one reviewer said AMD's temp sensor/probe didn't work right?

Sorry Donnie, but this post has been reported, you just dont know when to lay off. Give it a break, please

**ryboto** · 01-09-2009, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by mongoled

Sorry Donnie, but this post has been reported, you just dont know when to lay off. Give it a break, please

honestly , i didn't think id ever defend the guy, but what about his post was offensive? i also read about temp sensor issues, am i to be reported also?

**[XC] riptide** · 01-09-2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by mongoled

Sorry Donnie, but this post has been reported, you just dont know when to lay off. Give it a break, please

I don't see anything wrong with that post....

**[XC] riptide** · 01-09-2009, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Shintai

You could run an i7 with 2 phases if you liked. Got nothing to do with power consumption. More phases=more finetune for overclockers aswell as more stable supply. But also larger inefficiency.

You would also be amazed I guess on how few phases most server MBs got...

This one is 6 phases for example:
http://www.rackmountpro.com/imagevie...LUS.jpg&type=0

Intels own Smackover X58 board is 6 phases aswell. Asus T6T is 4 phases I think. Asus TEB-D is 5 phases. Flextronics TX65H is 5. MSI MS9199 is 3 or 4.

Doesn't current SuperMicro boards that support older Clovertons have like 4 phases? And are still rock stable.

**~~Chad Boga~~** · 01-09-2009, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by [XC] riptide

I don't see anything wrong with that post....

There doesn't need to be anything wrong with the post, that is how biased some people are, hopefully the Mods in this forum won't pander to this sort of irrationality.

**roofsniper** · 01-09-2009, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

There doesn't need to be anything wrong with the post, that is how biased some people are, hopefully the Mods in this forum won't pander to this sort of irrationality.

well some people also don't read the thread name when it says phenom II review thread. not phenom II flame thread.

**~~Chad Boga~~** · 01-09-2009, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by roofsniper

well some people also don't read the thread name when it says phenom II review thread. not phenom II flame thread.

People are discussing what the reviews show, but once again the fanboys are demanding that ONLY gushing praise of AMD be allowed.

You have the AMD Sanctuary for that sort of poor carry on.

**MAS** · 01-09-2009, 11:28 PM

http://www.ixbt.com/cpu/amd-phenom-2-x4-940.shtml - using 1066 memory

**duploxxx** · 01-09-2009, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Klarko

Anyone know when new AMD motherboards are coming out? The current ones seem pretty far behind the intel ones...

pls let us know why you think they are pretty far behind intel boards.

except for the fact that you have 1001 of the same boards with just another name and they use some fancy colors and cooling rubbish there is nothing more an intel board is able to provide, actually rather the opposite, try to find some intel boards that have such high feature set like 790f - fx and gx for that pricepoint.

Originally Posted by MAS

http://www.ixbt.com/cpu/amd-phenom-2-x4-940.shtml - usind 1066 memory

now if they would only add some cpu´s that are actually in the same price range would be added value for the review.......

**roofsniper** · 01-09-2009, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

People are discussing what the reviews show, but once again the fanboys are demanding that ONLY gushing praise of AMD be allowed.

You have the AMD Sanctuary for that sort of poor carry on.

its fine if people discuss it it just seems there are a few people that only have negative things to say, don't really know much about the topic and seem to just flamebait people.

**MAS** · 01-09-2009, 11:32 PM

q9300 has the same price

**~~Chad Boga~~** · 01-09-2009, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by roofsniper

its fine if people discuss it it just seems there are a few people that only have negative things to say, don't really know much about the topic and seem to just flamebait people.

A perverse interpretation of what has happened in this thread, unless you were referring to the posts by Mongoled.