NDA lifts today, the first reviews pop in.
http://www.dinoxpc.com/Tests/articol...dex.asp?id=866
Especially interesting comparisons to Phenom 1.
Seems like scaling from 2.6Ghz to 3Ghz sometimes brings slightly more performance than the 15% you would expect.
With much better power consumption than Phenom 1, it's starting to make more and more sense to buy an AMD cpu again.
AMD back in the game.
I like the line graph they used to show the percentage improvement over Phenom I, that's a cool way of showing it.
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And it shows 5-15% IPC boost on everything except synthetics.Originally Posted by Cybercat
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Games just love cache.
That same site also says Phenom II AM2+ is compatible with AM3, if the rough Google translation is to be believed.
http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=
page 2:
and on the last page with conclusions...
So perhaps some confirmation of what the XS AMD board has been speculated for some time on?
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For those that dont venture to far from the News section.............
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=213690
Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Im glad they added the consumption of power.. and that they added intel's offerings.... what a worthless review
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Why do you say its worthless? somebody spent there time to get info to others.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
ClubOC review is up....
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/revie...40Black/p1.asp
yea i thought the review was nice. im really happy with the power consumption numbers. theres not a big difference from 2.8ghz to 3ghz and i hope it scales that way too when it overclocks. looks like one of these would run cooler than my 9600 is on stock. even with the large l3 and the imc its power consumption is still close to the core 2 cpus.
i have mad paint skillz.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ph...0-review-test/
http://techreport.com/articles.x/16147
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=16757
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/ind...=667&Itemid=27
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2338338,00.asp
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...phenom-ii.html
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Ente...nom-II-X4-940/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-940,2114.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...d-920-review/1
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...0_performance/
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Seems we made our greatest error when we named it at the start
for though we called it "Human Nature" - it was cancer of the heart
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some web has today review of GTX 295 ... Phenom II will be tomorrow
Wow. That's looking VERY good. As of right now, Phenom II could be at least a match versus Core i7. I would have preferred to see Ci7 920 numbers though--if the a940 can match or undercut the i920, they'll get a lot of sales. As of right now, the use of DDR2 and close performance in games says that an AM3 Phenom II and an AM2+ board may be a (much) better option then an i7. I guess I'll see though--Intel needs to get P55 out to compete, and hopefully memory prices will be driven down as DDR3 heats up.
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Lots of interesting reviews up allready. I want to se comparision against good old Q6600 and Q9550.
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=21074 80-0-0
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You talk as if current C2Qs/S775 don't even exist...
News flash, the performance levels of PII is right in line with C2Qs and the pricing reflects that. As many people will tell you, PII is more about competing against C2Q than Ci7.
What!? I just read 3-4 reviews and Phenom II hasn't bested any core 2 duos really so i7 even being a match..... What reviews are you reading?
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I7 is in a class of its own.Who want the best there is on the market, the choice is clear.
Meanwhile AMD offers a good fight in the middle of the pack , Q9400/Q9550 territory.Given Intel's price cut at the end of this month , Q9650 will take Q9550 place , while Q9550 replaces Q9450.Things will get really interesting there with Intel having the edge by a few %.
I'm actually surprised AMD is pitting PII against the low end C2D, aka Q9300/Q9400. That should tell a lot about the expected performance of these chips. It's kinda surprising how low they're clocking (stable) tho; at least that was the case with the Tech Report. I mean 3.5Ghz was max stable?
I was surprised at the TR numbers as well, but Anandtech got 3.9ghz with stock cooling (1.52v).I'm actually surprised AMD is pitting PII against the low end C2D, aka Q9300/Q9400. That should tell a lot about the expected performance of these chips. It's kinda surprising how low they're clocking (stable) tho; at least that was the case with the Tech Report. I mean 3.5Ghz was max stable?
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That's all I wanted to hear. Hopefully in the future I'd be able to replace Q6600 with Q9650 and clock it even higher. At least until octo cores become affordable for the main stream market.
About those OCs...
Hands up kiddies, who thinks reviewers have time to tweak (ACC, etc.)?
Zucker2k,
And Dr.Who? has just as much credibilty. Might be even less - where's that i7 6GHz?
Last edited by largon; 01-08-2009 at 12:11 AM.
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