AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[roofsniper]

edit: also if i may add (just trying to recall whats on my head, not searching or anything), volts doesnt produce heat. its the current that flows through the circuit that does. as current flows, resistance is encountered. when there is resistance, there is friction which in turn generates heat.

volts and amps can be converted inbetween each other. they both produce heat. as you know fan controllers use resistors to lower the volts which in turn lowers the fan speed. if you have ever touched one of those resistors they get pretty hot because they produce heat from lowering the volts.

[roofsniper]

The higher the voltage the less Ampere's are recquired to do the same amount of work. It all depends on the ciruit, but more volts does not at all mean that energy consumption has to be higher.

If I needed to do 200watts of work I could use 200amps@1 volt.
I can do the same amount of work with only 133amps if I use 1.5 volts.

Volts x amps =watts. So in the end im still using 200 watts both ways.

i and many others have said this many times already. im not sure if people are forgetting it or what. but just because the volts are higher doesn't mean the power consumption will be higher.

Is there a way to ignore a users post?.....In a way that their post never pop up as long as you are logged in?

yea go into your user cp and you can add people from there. who you trying to block? zucker is probably on half of the people's lists in here.

@accord some might not be accurate but that will be obvious when you encounter it. that would be a problem with the cpu not the entire cpu's design.

[accord99]

@accord some might not be accurate but that will be obvious when you encounter it. that would be a problem with the cpu not the entire cpu's design.

Why not? Brisbane's thermal sensors were broken at launch, and don't appear to have been fixed. Plenty of early Wolfdales and Yorkfields have stuck sensors.

[roofsniper]

its just too hard to believe that every single phenom II is broken when there was no problem with the first phenom and the temp sensors are the same now.

[accord99]

its just too hard to believe that every single phenom II is broken when there was no problem with the first phenom and the temp sensors are the same now.

The Phenom I temp sensors are not accurate.

[Macadamia]

The Phenom I temp sensors are not accurate.

Proof?

[accord99]

Proof?

Read the link I provided earlier:

http://forum.xcpus.com/amd/9811-phen...-behavior.html

[roofsniper]

Proof?

that one thread he posted is the proof that all phenoms have a bad temp sensor and are not accurate. the one that is a year old on the old B2 phenoms. that one.