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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Its vcore or pll, up pll first if that wont help, you'll need a drop or 2 of vcore
    usally 512 errors its pll
    upped pll from 1.60 to 1.62 and got this


    since that didn't work, I'll drop vcore one, rerun and if that doesn't help drop it again........and if THAT doesn't work I'll get back to ya.


    EDIT: pll @ 1.62 and vcore down one notch to 1.55625 and got:



    HELP GRNFINGER
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    xxDayTrader,
    What are you cooling that 6600 with? 75c seems way high...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnTRD View Post
    xxDayTrader,
    What are you cooling that 6600 with? 75c seems way high...
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    given what i've seen in other posts here, i'm suspicious that i'm putting too many volts to my cpu

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    grnfinger, Have you used the OCZ plats 1066 sticks in this board? What were you able to manage with them if so.
    I have some OCZ plats in this board (not sure of the revision off hand, but they are rated @ 2.2v). I can get them to run up to 1063 MHz FSB, but id I go up one more notch on the CPU FSB (from 424 to 425 MHz), they don't post. Still trying to figure them out. Can you post your timings please?

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    xxDayTrader
    I think you might be over doing it with your CPU and RAM Voltage. Try some of this..


    DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLED
    Ai Clock Twister : Mod- Strong
    Transaction Booster : Enable
    Common Perf. Level : 7

    CPU Voltage : 1.4V-1.45 (maybe less)
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
    DRAM Voltage : 1.98 (your ram is rated for 2.0-2.1V @ 1000MHz)
    Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
    CPU GTL Reference : .67
    North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
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    Well I'm going to take the Rampage BIOS dive again. I just got an 8GB kit of Geil Esoteria, and I'm having a little trouble getting it stable. So far I can only get it to DDR2-846 5-5-5-15 (rest set to auto for timings). I'm currently running the latest Maximus Formula BIOS. Any suggestions on the Rampage would be greatly appreciated.
    I have my CPU and NB on water too.
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    I can't seem to find who was asking before, but the question was "what happens when you set the memory FSB to 1066 and all the ram timings to Auto?" The answer: same thing. DET DRAM hang

    I also played around with setting the NB strap to 333, which brought the ram down to around 1021, then upped the FSB to 425 to see if there was an FSB wall @ 425 and got the hang again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    I found advanced 350ps was the sweet spot for my setup, if its running solid on 300ps then I would not touch it.
    Grnfinger, that may be it! When I saw that post I figured it would be worth a shot, since I have never messed around with those timings before. I set the vdimm to 2.208v (actual) and set the DRAM CLK Skew on Channel AB to Advanced 350ps , then changed the FSB to 425 and it posted! It even went into Windows perfectly fine. I am now playing around @430 FSB (mem - 1071) and Priming away for about 15 minutes so far. Probably going to reboot and go higher.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnTRD View Post
    xxDayTrader
    I think you might be over doing it with your CPU and RAM Voltage. Try some of this..


    DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLED
    Ai Clock Twister : Mod- Strong
    Transaction Booster : Enable
    Common Perf. Level : 7

    CPU Voltage : 1.4V-1.45 (maybe less)
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
    DRAM Voltage : 1.98 (your ram is rated for 2.0-2.1V @ 1000MHz)
    Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
    CPU GTL Reference : .67
    North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
    Just for the hell of it I gave this a shot and I posted fine but got BSOD as Windows was loading up.

    Going back to Grnfinger's 8x450 settings
    CPU : 1.5625
    PLL : 1.60
    NB : 1.53
    FSB : 1.52
    DRAM : 2.02 -- this is what I've had mine at for a bit now.

    .........AND AWAITING FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS
    Last edited by xxDayTrader; 01-02-2009 at 06:26 AM.
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    1071 went for 21 minutes so I stopped it. Now up to 1088 and Priming. How are my mem scores? They look so much better in Everest - I was using SANDRA before, which is reading them about 900 MB/s slower.

    EDIT: Doh, two cores failed
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    Do any of you other guys use Intel Burn Test for your stability testing? Just asking as i see primarily Prime95 shots.
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    All right I flashed the latest 0701 Rampage BIOS and all is well at 475FSB. I'm pretty excited now....I was worried that this new Geil Evo One RAM sucked, but it seems it was just the MF BIOS that didn't play well.
    I passed stability for an hour in blended.....good enough for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_HK47 View Post
    Do any of you other guys use Intel Burn Test for your stability testing? Just asking as i see primarily Prime95 shots.
    No, I just use Prime 95. I've heard some horror stories about people melting MOSFETs while stressing with the Intel tool. I ran it once and saw the temps.....it's WAY beyond what you'll ever experience in any computing environment. I was actually shocked to see how much power my CPU was consuming compared to Prime.

    I think it may be useful for a shorter run for those who are lazy (like me.) One thing is for sure: it will stress your CPU more than any application out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_HK47 View Post
    Do any of you other guys use Intel Burn Test for your stability testing? Just asking as i see primarily Prime95 shots.
    I have both OCCT and Prime95. I use Pirme95 because I need assistance and with Prime, I get more assistance. Hell, I'd run "I'mAPainInTheAssN00b.exe" if it would help things........
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    How many Volt i can config for 24/7? The board is watercooled, so i havent any temp problems...

    My damnit maximus extreme isn´t stable with 500 FSB@1.59 vNB ....

    My old rampage did it with 1.35 vNB... Is x38 to x48 so different?

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    Hey guys is there a fix for the usb ports not working? I connected the front case usb cables and they wont work,is there a setting on the bios or something ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxDayTrader View Post
    upped pll from 1.60 to 1.62 and got this


    since that didn't work, I'll drop vcore one, rerun and if that doesn't help drop it again........and if THAT doesn't work I'll get back to ya.


    EDIT: pll @ 1.62 and vcore down one notch to 1.55625 and got:



    HELP GRNFINGER
    try a drop or 2 more of FSBT, it should help you, if not post your complete bios setup and I'll try your settings

    Quote Originally Posted by xxDayTrader View Post
    I have both OCCT and Prime95. I use Pirme95 because I need assistance and with Prime, I get more assistance. Hell, I'd run "I'mAPainInTheAssN00b.exe" if it would help things........


    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_HK47 View Post
    Do any of you other guys use Intel Burn Test for your stability testing? Just asking as i see primarily Prime95 shots.
    I use IBT to do a quick test of my settings, 10 loop with min memory in use, till the chip will pass, then 10 loops with max memory till it passes, then I tweak volts to lowest and run a 15 loop with max memory in use, if it passses it then goes to prime for 4-8 hours.

    Prime is very good and over the last 6 months or so I have been making a spread sheet of Prime errors, I have a good idea what needs to be adjusted depending on what test it fails. Its not a 100% guarantee but usually it works
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    I wonder the chances of me getting 543*7 stable? Man that would be insane for memory performance.....now that my NB is on water I can push the juice. I seriously doubt it's possible......but one can dream, right? :p
    I wish this chip had half multipliers.
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    on a 65nm quad?? I would like to see that

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    Is it just me or does my RAM performance seem week for 1066?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    on a 65nm quad?? I would like to see that
    Hehe I know, that would be badass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t_ski View Post
    I have some OCZ plats in this board (not sure of the revision off hand, but they are rated @ 2.2v). I can get them to run up to 1063 MHz FSB, but id I go up one more notch on the CPU FSB (from 424 to 425 MHz), they don't post. Still trying to figure them out. Can you post your timings please?
    5-5-5-15 other than below settings leave to auto for now....

    Dram static read Disabled
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    Dram clock skew CH A 300ps
    Dram clock skew CH B 300ps

    Dram volt 2.14
    Fsb term 1.28
    NB voltage 1.55 (Real)

    Settings are for max clock on ram.


    Grn,
    Any ideas on a black screen of death while priming?
    I got my TRUE 120 today bumped up to 3.7 fine, primed for a few hours fine, bumped to 3.8 boot to windows ran a quick PI 1M, fired up prime ran 2 cycles reboot/BSOD, no blue screen no errors just like its rebooting the more voltage i toss at it the faster it crashes.....I'm thinking PSU.

    Also anyone experience weird problems after a power outage or disconnecting power? This thing hangs on USB devices, loses hard drives, everytime after unplugging it to work on, never did it with the maxximus formula bios's. I have to pull all USB sticks out and unplug and plug one of my sata drives in to get it to realize it's there.
    Last edited by chew*; 01-02-2009 at 03:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    5-5-5-15 other than below settings leave to auto for now....

    Dram static read Disabled
    AI clock twister Lighter
    AI transaction Manual
    Performance level [07]
    Dram clock skew CH A 300ps
    Dram clock skew CH B 300ps

    Dram volt 2.14
    Fsb term 1.28
    NB voltage 1.55 (Real)

    Settings are for max clock on ram.


    Grn,
    Any ideas on a black screen of death while priming?
    I got my TRUE 120 today bumped up to 3.7 fine, primed for a few hours fine, bumped to 3.8 boot to windows ran a quick PI 1M, fired up prime ran 2 cycles reboot/BSOD, no blue screen no errors just like its rebooting the more voltage i toss at it the faster it crashes.....I'm thinking PSU.

    Also anyone experience weird problems after a power outage or disconnecting power? This thing hangs on USB devices, loses hard drives, everytime after unplugging it to work on, never did it with the maxximus formula bios's. I have to pull all USB sticks out and unplug and plug one of my sata drives in to get it to realize it's there.
    I've never experienced such issues with my MF. Do you have the PCI-E OCed high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
    I've never experienced such issues with my MF. Do you have the PCI-E OCed high?
    set at 100, fsb strap to auto but this does this even at stock clock when power is disconnected like for instance i set everything to defaults saved. rebooted at stock. then shut down and disc power to install TRUE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnTRD View Post
    Is it just me or does my RAM performance seem week for 1066?

    Shawn i just ran it although I just have a trial ( no Key gen ), at stock settings on ram I get
    8380 read and latency is 61.6ns. Looks like you might be able to tweak some stuff but it could be due to your overall cpu clock.
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    Zucker or grnfinger (or whoever with experience on this board with a 65nm quad and 8GB):
    What timings do you suggest I run on my Geil Evo Ones? I can post my BIOS settings later, but I'm at 8*475 Prime blended stable with the same timings as SPD, except 18 instead of 15....I'll post more later when I get home from work.
    I would like to run DDR2-1128 or so if possible.....I think these Evo Ones can take the voltage. The heatsink on them is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Shawn i just ran it although I just have a trial ( no Key gen ), at stock settings on ram I get
    8380 read and latency is 61.6ns. Looks like you might be able to tweak some stuff but it could be due to your overall cpu clock.
    Do I gain performance from lower multplier, and higher FSB?
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