Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[Xello]

but maybe only 3 degrees at 4.0Ghz, 211 bclk (my settings), full load Linpack. Comes to my mind the word "electric fatigue" or, better, "PCB fatigue".

Pass, that's out of my field even coming to guess work

The key is that with Linpack we can achieve very quickly (generally) a system full Prime95 stable. But is not so fast to reach a system Linpack stable (although this is faster than achieving a stable prime95 system using only prime95). The problem is compounded if Linpack from a certain OC level begins to introduce abnormal errors due to its enormous and abnormal power.

Hmm, there doesn't seem to be a way to define exactly how long a linpack run = how long a prime95 run though. I've read for months and months that it beats out prime hands down and will do in a very short time what prime will do in 1-2 days, i'm just saying that in my opinion everyone that talks like this is hugely exaggerating. Unless my one test yesterday was a fluke

I also forgot for a while but my old QX9650 which was 26hr~ blend stable failed IBT (same thing as LinX really right?) in like 10 minutes. Gah why is everything so f***ing complicated.

[Khalmyr]

Sorry for being offtopic here guys, but I just wanted to tell everyone that newegg has the new Giga boards.

UD3R for $199 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128375
UD4P for $259 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128374

UD3R finally broke the $200 mark for X58 mobos

[Hornet331]

oh "cheap" X58, even with Ultra durable 3.

THe DS4 has no ultra durable 3 (well at least offical ).

[Tobit]

UD3R finally broke the $200 mark for X58 mobos

Showing $209 still for me. NewEgg has had these boards for a couple weeks now. Couple other boards coming out soon from other manufacturers, definitely some interesting times. Egg also has the -DS4 for $245.

[Xello]

Heh, doesn't it seem like they have a bit too many boards out that are a bit too similar?

[Tobit]

Heh, doesn't it seem like they have a bit too many boards out that are a bit too similar?

Yeah, there are a few subtle differences but I donut understand why GB needs to have six X58 boards on the market. It's important to note that the budget boards only support Crossfire. I wrote this up a few weeks ago on another forum:

UD3R - 4 DIMMs, 16GB DDR3 2000, Crossfire Only, no eSATA, 2 PCI-E @ x16
UD4 - 6 DIMMs, 24GB DDR3 2000, Crossfire Only, with eSATA, 2 PCI-E @ x16
DS4 - 6 DIIMs, 24GB DDR3 2100+, Crossfire Only (3-way), eSATA, 12+2+2 phase power, 3 PCI-E (16/8/8)

All of the above have ALC888 audio, Realtek 8111D 1000Mbit LAN, and 1394. With the above boards, there are some subtle differences relating to number of SATA ports, legacy PCI slots, etc.

UD4P - 6 DIMMs, 24GB DDR3 2100+. SLI & Crossfire (3-way), 12+2+2 phase power, 3 PCI-E (16/16/8) with ALC889A Audio, 1 x 8111D LAN, and 1394

UD5 and the EXTREME are the high end boards with 12+2+2 phase power, SLI+Crossfire (3-way), ALC889A, Dual 8111D LAN, 1394, etc.

The only board that has an onboard TPM chip is the UD4P. All six boards have (fake)RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, JBOD

[lowdog]

Is there any confirmed success using the pencil vdroop mod on either the Extreme or the UD5?

Has anyone done a before and after comparison?

[fiskov]

Just curious if anyone else has had simular results in updating the Bios on the UD5 to the latest F4.

When i got my 920i/UD5 on release i could manage 185x21= 3885mhz @ 1.3250v ..... I wont go over this voltage, but no matter what i tried, how low i set the multiplier/uncore etc.. I couldn't get over 185 BLK
Just updated to this F4 Bios.. bloomin brilliant!
Not only can i finally get into Bios Instantly!! But im now using 200x20 = 4Ghz @ 1.3250, from a quick look 208 BLK seems to be the limit, and i cant seem to use speedstep once above 200x18.
Voltages i've messed with is:
Vdroop Enabled | 1.3250v | QPI/vtt 1.30 | Speedstep = OFF
Results:
200x20 = 4Ghz | Uncore 3400mhz
Akasa AK-967 heatsink | Idle = avg. 33 | Load = avg. 69

First Pentium since a PI 166mhz, very happy indeed with this, anyone else got a similar boost from F4 Bios?

(Edit: Just looked back, people mentioning f4k/j bios? i just used the update bios from web program so i've no idea).

[yenniedn]

@fiskov, if you read back a few pages to when F4 BIOS was released, all it did apparently was messed up most people's OC's and many went back to F4j or F4m.

[burningrave101]

You can't install 6 sticks of the Corsair Dominator DDR3 on the Gigabyte X58-EXTREME board can you? It doesn't look like the one in the blue slot closest to the CPU socket will fit because of the NB cooling. I've got the board already but I haven't taken it out of the package yet. This may help with my decision to go with the eVGA X58 SLI instead if it means I can't use all the memory slots on the board. You'd think Gigabyte would think of things like this and wouldn't try to put such crazy cooling on the NB when the NB doesn't even get hot in comparison to previous gen boards.

[VIctorj]

Guys, any news on Giga's utilities on Vista 64?

[yenniedn]

You can't install 6 sticks of the Corsair Dominator DDR3 on the Gigabyte X58-EXTREME board can you? It doesn't look like the one in the blue slot closest to the CPU socket will fit because of the NB cooling. I've got the board already but I haven't taken it out of the package yet. This may help with my decision to go with the eVGA X58 SLI instead if it means I can't use all the memory slots on the board. You'd think Gigabyte would think of things like this and wouldn't try to put such crazy cooling on the NB when the NB doesn't even get hot in comparison to previous gen boards.

Whether or not you can do 6 sticks of RAM will depend on the HSF you use. My TRUE 120 will not allow for a 12GB setup if a fan is used on the side of the TRUE closest to the front of the case. I have my TRUE in a push-pull configuration and the only way for me to go 12GB is to lose the front fan (or get shorter ram).

[vega22]

Well...Numbers:
19x211/Qpi x36/Uncore x16/Memory x8/HT off/Turbo Off
Bios F4m/CPU Clock Drive=700mV/Pci-e Clock Drive=700mV (more stables than 800/900)
Mems: 8-8-8-24/subtimings Auto
7-7-6/7-7-7/6-5-1/6-6-1 (settings imported from F4j -a little bit faster than F4m defaults-)
Absolute minimum voltages in Bios:
Cpu=1.38750v
Qpi/Vtt=1.40v
IOH Core=1.28v
Vdimm=1.66v
(everything else -> auto)

Less than impressive, but is not too bad:


Ultra Linpack stable (12h +), with these temps:

Only a few degrees more in mobo and ioh -> freeze

EDIT: my batch CPU is "A"

[tonytiger]

Hi,
I am hoping someone can help.I cannot get bclk 170 and above to fully post (system powers on but keeps restarting until a failed overclock is displayed).I have tried many combinations and voltages to no avail.Below is what i have tested:-

bclk 170 x20
qpi/vtt 1.3 also tried a bit higher
cpu vcore 1.3 also tried a bit higher
dram 1.6
mem multipler x8
unicore x16
qpi x36

All other settings on auto for now

bclk 169 with turbo on is fine (same as above except lower volts ,vcore 1.28 and qpi/vtt 1.28.

Rig:-
3 x 2gb corsair cl8 1600mhz 1.65v
i7 920 batch 3838a820 rev c0/c1
true black with Scythe S-FLEX 1600RPM
gigabyte ex58-ud5 f4 bios (also tried f3 and the new f5a beta)
corsair 750tx
4870 512mb
linksys pci wireless card
1 x VelociRaptor 300gb
1 x wd 750gb
1 x samsung spinpoint 1tb
1 x samsung sata dvd writer
silverstone fortress ft01

This was a treat to replace my old e6600 rig (running @3.6ghz).I thought i could get at least 3.6ghz so i am a bit disappointed.Have i hit the limit of this cpu or is it the motherboard?

Many thanks and a
Happy New Year!

[SteveRo]

Tony - Try these settings, once you are stable, work at bringing down the voltages, particularly vcore, qpi/vtt and dram.
Based on the restart problem: f4 bios has been giving lots of folks fits - I would get ride of that first - most folks are running f4j or m.

[tonytiger]

Thanks for the reply, i will try those settings,Where can i get that bios version you have metioned?

[SteveRo]

Thanks for the reply, i will try those settings,Where can i get that bios version you have metioned?

I will hunt down the link for F4j, one other thing once you go beyond qpi and dram at 1.35v/1.65v you need to keep them within .5v of each other to prevent damage (so we are told). Also FYI intel max v's (I am going .1 over this on qpi and dram at times - taking up the intel engineering margin).

[SteveRo]

Tony - I just sent you a PM.

[SteveRo]

Tony - - link to some UD5 bios are at - (some folks are having success with f4k also) -

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/...a-ex58-ud5.htm

[tonytiger]

Tony - - link to some UD5 bios are at - (some folks are having success with f4k also) -

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/...a-ex58-ud5.htm

Thanks for link,it appears i may have my vtt/qpi voltage set to high.I have reduced this to near default (1.18v) to start with ,still using f4.I have managed to boot into vista now.I have also tried bclk 171 but i had a hard lock when trying to post this message(hard disk led on).I must say s775 was a bit easy compared to this although i have been out of the loop for a while.Looks like i have steep learning curve ,but all part of the fun!

Should i be able to reach 3.6ghz?

[fornowagain]

The official F4 bios is not going to help you at all Tony. As mentioned before try the betas, I think the most popular is F4r for the UD5 (anyone?). I know I wouldn't change my Extreme from F4J without a very good reason.

[tonytiger]

The official F4 bios is not going to help you at all Tony. As mentioned before try the betas, I think the most popular is F4r for the UD5 (anyone?). I know I wouldn't change my Extreme from F4J without a very good reason.

I did try f4f and f4l with the same settings but i still had the multiple restarts which resulted in the overclock failed message in the bios.As of now i have:
bclk 170 x20
vcore @1.2875
vtt/qpi @1.18
cpu pll 1.84
qpi pll 1.14
ram @9-9-9-25 1.66v
qpi/unicore and mem set to auto for the momment.
All cpu features of apart from HT.

Just ran a 1 hour test OCCT ( i know this wont prove stablity i will be using prime 64 and linx to fully test)
cpu idle 34,31,35,35
Load around 63,62,64,64



This will be my starting point to fully test stability.

[fornowagain]

I did try f4f and f4l with the same settings but i still had the multiple restarts which resulted in the overclock failed message

Your is the UD5 right? Some of those betas were as bad as the official F4. I was pointing you towards the equivalent of the Extremes F4J, which I thought was the F4R? Honestly you're on to a looser until you get a stable bios, like night and day.

[tonytiger]

Thanks i will try f4r to see if this board is more stable.

[GAR]

I am now using F5A bios, i have gone back to the stock cooler, as my Thermalright was not making full contact with the IHS, horrible contact. Anyway i have a Noctua P12 on the way, using stock cooler at 3.36GHZ with 1.120v. Nice and stable.