AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[iandh]

what do you need?

As I said before we would likely need access to confidential AMD/intel internal testing software and equipment... for instance we use Prime95 to test our CPU's for stability, but I bet you that isn't what AMD and intel use to do their binning and stability tests.

They likely have written their own testing routines. For instance, when developing a chipset, how would they determine that packets of data were being sent back and forth correctly, and more importantly if they weren't, how would they diagnose the problem and fix it without custom written testing (or at least data aquisition) software?

That also brings up the problem of if we were to somehow prove that one system ran "smoother" than another, how would we determine why this is the case without access to these things?

you made very good logical points and if i have half of your knowledge and experience, i would be very happy. i have bachelor's degree in electrical engg and little background on electronics too, but i worked on a manufacturing company for almost a decade now. i feel like my technical background is buried and i need to dig way deep just to be able to have little conversation with you guys.

I was in no way trying to act like I was smarter than you or anyone else here, this forum is filled with quite a few sharp people and I am not so arrogant to think that I somehow am special... I was more trying to make the point that I am a very qualified observer and have a highly technical background.

I actually have a little EE under my belt as well but never have gotten around to finishing a degree because I've been so busy with work. I was hired in high school at 17 and now have been there for ten years.

[roofsniper]

As I said before we would likely need access to confidential AMD/intel internal testing software and equipment... for instance we use Prime95 to test our CPU's for stability, but I bet you that isn't what AMD and intel use to do their binning and stability tests.

anything more specific? also it might not be much of a tool but has anyone used cpuid's perf monitor? its kinda handy although it doesn't always work perfect as i have found a few bugs myself.