The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[ShawnTRD]

Might be, but I upped my CPU V and I think that fixed it.

[Grnfinger]

Might be, but I upped my CPU V and I think that fixed it.

If it still craps out, it has been my findings that if you drop a core on 1042 test up vtt or vNB

LMK how you make out

[xxDayTrader]

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : MANUAL 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : LIGHTER
Transaction Booster : MANUAL
Common Perf. Level : 8

CPU Voltage : 1.5625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.06 (might have been 2.08 - can't read my writing)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .67
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED : NB Volt
SB LED : SB Volt
CPU LED : CPU Volt
Voltmeter: ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum : DISABLED

CPU Ratio Control : MANUAL
 Ratio :  8
C1E Support : DISABLED
CPU TM Function : DISABLED
Vanderpool : DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit : DISABLED
Max CPUID Value : DISABLED

These settings ran stable for about 4 or 5 hrs and even though I worked up very slowly to them, I hoped to bring some of my temps down (maxed out around 74 degrees in 2 cores / 69 degrees in the other two) from Real Temp. If I bumped Vcore, PLL, NB or FSB down even one step I'd get an error in the 3rd core of Prime. So, I went back to my original settings and am running Prime again just to be sure I don't get any errors.

Assuming this looks OK, I'd like to get into improving my RAM but, much like what I've done so far, I'm rather in the dark about where to start, what to adjust and so forth so some advice (even if it's something to go read or research) would be great.

Mike




EDIT : Got the following failure

[Grnfinger]

Those redlines should do 1081 @ 5-5-5-15 easy

run the 12:10 divider and bump up the ram to 1081MHz
Next change these settings

Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : MANUAL
Common Perf. Level : 7

retest your ram if it craps out try clock skew first and alittle more volts, I think there safe to 2.2 volts so set max in bios to 2.12 if required

[chew*]

grnfinger, Have you used the OCZ plats 1066 sticks in this board? What were you able to manage with them if so.

[ShawnTRD]

Will using AS5 on the NB and SB lower my temp that much?

[Grnfinger]

grnfinger, Have you used the OCZ plats 1066 sticks in this board? What were you able to manage with them if so.

No sorry I have not , never had much luck with OCZ

[kup]

My QX6850 just cannot do 500MHz FSB. I've used all of my 515MHz+ settings from my old Q6600 and it locks after about 5mins. What voltages would you push to boost the FSB(or the wall?)?

[chew*]

Hmm well they are doing rated specs, NP atm, read alot about users having problems getting reapers up to speed though.

Any thought on prime stable small fft's , 3d06 stable but crysis bench crash? I'm thinking NB volts or ram.

Once i get the my TRUE in a couple of days I will post some OCZ ram tests (temps are to much for extreme ocing atm ). I picked it up for phenom II but figured I'd try it out in this first.

I prefer ceramique to as5, it's the universal soldier of thermal paste. Yes it will make a difference as well as straightening out the heatpipe assembly, only one corner of my SB was making contact when i recieved the board. Lay it on a large piece of glass and see how evenly it sits, adjust till its flat.

[Grnfinger]

Hmm well they are doing rated specs, NP atm, read alot about users having problems getting reapers up to speed though.

Any thought on prime stable small fft's , 3d06 stable but crysis bench crash? I'm thinking NB volts or ram.

Once i get the my TRUE in a couple of days I will post some OCZ ram tests (temps are to much for extreme ocing atm ). I picked it up for phenom II but figured I'd try it out in this first.

Oh no I'm not bashing the ram, I just had bad luck with them and even worse with RMA
I would agree most likely vNB, you could also try dram clock skew advanced 100ps to start and move up from there it might help..

My QX6850 just cannot do 500MHz FSB. I've used all of my 515MHz+ settings from my old Q6600 and it locks after about 5mins. What voltages would you push to boost the FSB(or the wall?)?

I find alot of PLL will move the wall slightly if you havent tried it yet.

[chew*]

Shawn I found a small fan over the NB also does wonders. The way the heastink is pinned screws fasten to it quite easily. Don't mind the mess I just recently organized everything when i swapped PSU this is just an old pic.

[xxDayTrader]

Those redlines should do 1081 @ 5-5-5-15 easy

run the 12:10 divider and bump up the ram to 1081MHz
Next change these settings

Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : MANUAL
Common Perf. Level : 7

retest your ram if it craps out try clock skew first and a little more volts, I think there safe to 2.2 volts so set max in bios to 2.12 if required

12:10 @ 1081 CHECK
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger CHECK
Com. Perf. Level : 7 CHECK

As for Clock Skew.... am I correct in assuming the lower the advance the better? At someone's recommendation here (I believe it was Zucker) I had the CLK Skew Channel A & B to : Advance 300ps. When I was inputting your suggestions, I changed it to NORMAL and hung at DET RAM. Bumped both to Advance 50ps and got BSOD as I was posting this reply so now I'm back to Advance 300ps on both. Is that ok or should I try to lower it?

Sorry for all the N00B questions..... just trying to keep myself on track and have something to work on while I'm waiting for replies.


Here are the rest of my memory settings:
DRAM Frequency : DDR2 - 1081MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Advanced 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Advanced 300ps

1st Information: Manual -> RAS# ACT Time / Auto for the rest 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
2nd Information : Auto (8-3-5-4-6-4-6)
3rd Information : Auto (14-5-1-6-6)

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

[Grnfinger]

I found advanced 350ps was the sweet spot for my setup, if its running solid on 300ps then I would not touch it.

[kup]

I find alot of PLL will move the wall slightly if you havent tried it yet.

What would you recommend as max? I can't believe I lost all my saved settings when I formatted.

[Grnfinger]

iirc 1.70 is max, someone correct me if I'm wrong please
is this going to be a 24/7 setup?

[chew*]

iirc 1.70 is max, someone correct me if I'm wrong please
is this going to be a 24/7 setup?

That real voltage or set because mine overvolts like crazy, etc 1.50 set = 1.61 measured.

[kup]

It'll be a 24/7 Folding setup. I'll try up to 1.65v and that will give about 1.7v actual. What did you run on yours, Grn?

[chew*]

Figured out my crysis bench problem. Won't even bench at stock, either the bench is screwed, the game is screwed or my dx10 is screwed because it benches in DX9 fine.

[Grnfinger]

It'll be a 24/7 Folding setup. I'll try up to 1.65v and that will give about 1.7v actual. What did you run on yours, Grn?

about 1.72 actual for over 6 months, chip was still going strong when I sold it.

[xxDayTrader]

got a Fatal Error 2 1/2 hrs into Prime95 "Blend" test (usually I'd just run the Small FFTs) in core #2. When I was running the Small FFT tests it was usually core #3 that would get the error.

[Grnfinger]

Its vcore or pll, up pll first if that wont help, you'll need a drop or 2 of vcore
usally 512 errors its pll

[xxDayTrader]

Its vcore or pll, up pll first if that wont help, you'll need a drop or 2 of vcore
usally 512 errors its pll

Sweet! I didn't realize the iteration gave a clue as to what went wrong. Now I wish I would have been posting up my Pirme screenshots a week ago when I started this mess.

Had CPU Voltage : 1.5625 & CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60. Just bumped PLL to 1.62 and rerunning Prime.

Thanks again Grnfinger!

[ShawnTRD]

What about me?

[Grnfinger]

try some vtt

[ShawnTRD]

WOW!!!

I just did that and WOW! I was thinking about doing something like that a couple weeks ago but never did. My NB Idle temp dropped from about 40c to 33c. My load looks to be staying around 37-38ish. They were in the 46-47ish range.

Shawn I found a small fan over the NB also does wonders. The way the heastink is pinned screws fasten to it quite easily. Don't mind the mess I just recently organized everything when i swapped PSU this is just an old pic.