The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[OVERK|LL]

Yep

They have heat issues. Is the drive in very close proximity to another? Does it have air going across it?

[ChaosMinionX]

They have heat issues. Is the drive in very close proximity to another? Does it have air going across it?

The whole rack in the case has 2 120mm fans goin across it, the drive is never above 30c...


Also why does my transfer from drive to drive start out at like 180-200MB/s and drops off to like 20-30MB/s?

[KALISPIMENTA]

Help please i was playing a game when my pc crashed when it restarted a the bios setttings were gone and the pc hangs on the blinking _.i tried installing windows again, system restore, clear cmos from the back and nothing always hangs on the blinking line (-)any ideas? ty

[OVERK|LL]

The whole rack in the case has 2 120mm fans goin across it, the drive is never above 30c...


Also why does my transfer from drive to drive start out at like 180-200MB/s and drops off to like 20-30MB/s?

Sounds like an issue with the drive or the cable. Have you tried another cable?

[ChaosMinionX]

Sounds like an issue with the drive or the cable. Have you tried another cable?

Just used a different cable. Will see how it fairs.

[lohoutlaw]

Hello guys,

Well after the fist post i did in this thread (post #7706), i did some voltage changes at the heart of the board.
Surprised myself with my findings.

I thought i would run a couple of tests to see just what voltage it took to make my O/C's stable.
As you can see from my last post that my voltages were kinda high to start with. But after adjusting most of the settings that count, i ran with it.

So these 2 tests were done with IntelBurn software, 10 irritations to be sure of stability 2X.
For each test run, i dropped the voltage to CPU 1 increment until i came up with the correct voltage required for my CPU.(Screen shots provided below)

Asus Rampage Formula
Intel E8600

Voltage as follows:
CPU ********
CPU PLL 1.50v
NB 1.55v
Dram 2.14v @ 2T
FSB Term 1.36v
SB 1.050v
SB 1.5v Voltage 1.50v
Load Line Enabled
All other voltage settings set to auto.

All the setting above were left alone on these tests, only adjustments i made were to CPU voltage.

(1.33750v to CPU bios)
4400mhz x 8 @ 2200FSB, Bus speed 550.0mhz @ 59c load temp.




(1.24375v to CPU bios)
4000mhz x 8 @ 2000FSB, Bus speed 500.0mhz @ 50c load temp.
As you can see i threw the Asus Probe software in there to help with CPU voltage confirmation. Yes it is a bit buggy as well.




As you can see in the screen shots i managed to get my CPU O/C'd stable with a huge decrease in voltage to CPU.
A Thank you to Renegade5399 @ BPC for the voltage help
I hope this will help others in the long run with there o/c's.

Source thread @ BPC

Enjoy

[xxDayTrader]

With these settings Prime went about 2 1/2 hours before there was a hardware error in one of the cores. Usually, I'd begin to bump vcore, then give it another shot, and slowly bump the PLL, NB and/or FSB (documenting along the way) to figure out where they had to be to get a 24hr stable run of Small FFTs in Prime 95 unless one of you guys have a better suggestion.

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : MANUAL 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : LIGHTER
Transaction Booster : MANUAL
Common Perf. Level : 8

CPU Voltage : 1.54375 
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .67
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF +10mv
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED : NB Volt
SB LED : SB Volt
CPU LED : CPU Volt
Voltmeter: ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum : DISABLED

CPU Ratio Control : MANUAL
 Ratio :  8
C1E Support : DISABLED
CPU TM Function : DISABLED
Vanderpool : DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit : DISABLED
Max CPUID Value : DISABLED

With vcore, PLL and NB set to Auto, I got a POST, booted into Windows. I restarted and got the following settings in the BIOS Hardware section:
CPU Vcore 1.46
PLL 1.616
NB 1.63
--DRAM set to 2.20 by me (this is the max Mushkin "recommends")
In AUTO for those 3 settings (and FSB Strap @ 333) I tried Prime and after about 1 minuted I got BSOD.

Thanks again guys.

[KALISPIMENTA]

Anyone?

[xxDayTrader]

Anyone?

I had a similar problem years ago and it turned out to be a HD issue......but you said you were able to reinstall the OS whereas I wasn't able to.

[KALISPIMENTA]

i install it but at start up hangs again it wont pass the black screen with the blinking _.tried new memory disconnected hds and nothing.im on the asus support phone line by the 2nd time now for 30 minutes Now with no luck*.god i miss evga support
edit:omg no help what so ever,right away rma 12 to 21 business days.Guiet tech guy with no answers??!!
Anyone else with ideas browsing the net on this ppc is fliping me out.

[MJR]

had the same issue. Turned out to be a grounding issue. the (-) I was told is a general fault code that encompasses many things. Asus support told me it is most commonly a grounding thing, which turned out to be my problem. Unplug all your peripherals, put your system on a grounded power bar and make sure the case isn't conducting.

[KALISPIMENTA]

Grounded power bar?ty for the help.this code is generated on the screen correct?

[MJR]

what country R U in?

If ur not in the US, I'm not sure what they call them but I'm referring to a grounded surge protector plug, just to rule out your electrical source as the issue.

[Grnfinger]

So I finally get time today to open my RMA from Asus, with teh holidays and all its been a busy week, and the wife gave me the evil eye whenever I went near it...she was kinda piss'd about my 2 hour benching session on Christmas day...go figure
Been waiting since August and 3 RMA's later to get my board back and working.
So I sent them a Maximus Formula SE and they were supposed to send me a Rampage as the SE is no longer in stock, guess what they sent me?
A freaking Maximus II Formula, now what the hell am I going to do with 2 boards of the same chipset?

[Commander_HK47]

So I finally get time today to open my RMA from Asus, with teh holidays and all its been a busy week, and the wife gave me the evil eye whenever I went near it...she was kinda piss'd about my 2 hour benching session on Christmas day...go figure
Been waiting since August and 3 RMA's later to get my board back and working.
So I sent them a Maximus Formula SE and they were supposed to send me a Rampage as the SE is no longer in stock, guess what they sent me?
A freaking Maximus II Formula, now what the hell am I going to do with 2 boards of the same chipset?

I want to laugh, but not at you, just the idiocy of ASUS's RMA department.

[Grnfinger]

I'm not pleased but it is a nice upgrade, I just did not want 2 boards of the same platform, I was looking forward to benching a bit tonight with it.

[Commander_HK47]

are both PCIE slosts 8x or is one of them at lest 16x(physical/electrical)?

[Grnfinger]

yes one is 16x and one is 8x

I dont do crossfire tho so its of little importance to me, my new GPU will be a 4870X2 2GB card so it will not be an issue

[Commander_HK47]

Yeah having at lest one 16x slot is fine. Just couldn't remember if they where both 8x or not.

[ZenEffect]

yes one is 16x and one is 8x

I dont do crossfire tho so its of little importance to me, my new GPU will be a 4870X2 2GB card so it will not be an issue

out of spite you should bench that board to a early death *less than 72 hours* and rma it again to asus and tell them to correct the order! i want to see 600fsb quad!

[ShawnTRD]

Grnfinger,
I got my G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK from Newegg today. Whats your recommended settings and starting point for these?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger,
I got my G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK from Newegg today. Whats your recommended settings and starting point for these?

Ahh new ram

What clocks are your running your 6700 at?

Heres my Q6700 3.6GHz setup

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advanced 250ps ( assuming your ram is in the blue slots)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advanced 250ps ( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ )
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.46 ( start here that what mine needed, you can adjust from here)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 ( you can try to lower this)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[chew*]

Finally decided to play with this some more, been running @ 3.2 for a while with stock volts so i figured I'd tackle my temps issue and lapped this scythe ninja copy. Finally got somewhat stable temps and completed prime for an hour with 1.325v, benched it in 3dmark also. Still needs alot of tweaking and the OS seems to boot a little sluggishly, I will play with non cpu volts tommorow to determine which is the culprit, most likely the southbridge.....

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9428367

Whats a decent PI 1M time with this setup? I'm pulling 14.172s untweaked for PI with sig parts.

[ShawnTRD]

Prime didn't error, but it looks like my 3rd core (normally the one that errors) stopped.

[chew*]

Thats odd my q6600 does 3.2 at 1.225v (stock VID) and the board undervolts it to 1.208.......then again it is #47 out of a batch but I didn't think batch really mattered when they glue 2 dies together from other batches.

You sure it not you memory settings?

I figured out why windows was sluggish, Hosed my OS with a couple BSOD's finding stable settings, reinstalling now, appears alot snappier.