Live MB OC Report :: ASUS Rampage Extreme

[cheapseats]

I'm using cellshock 1800 and a q9450, my voltages are:

at 3.6 (450*8)

and if i use 2x1gb I can run prime95 without problems.....



.....but if i try using 4x 1gb I can only ruum 2 testes without errors,

I've raised th nb voltage to 1.59 and I can run 4 prime testes then th cpu reboots.

In single post here u say that can be usesd 4x1gb ajusting ddrref acoirding tho recomendations, do you know what is the value?

I want to put my system stable at 450*8

Can you please help?

hi frank - sorry for the late reply and hope you've sorted it already. My own 4x1 experience is too limited to make any useful suggestions - my max 4x1GB clock was 800mhz (1600)....CL8 No quad here either.

Also Frank, the DDRref settings that I mentioned testing, were for 2x1GB D9JNL and at 500FSB/1:2/CL8/vNB 1.60/vDIMM 1.90
(I used NBDDR +12.5 and A/B DDR +12.5).




@ ragheb

hi ragheb , are you using a RE with CS3222271 (D9JNL) - same as me ?
I think ToyTen's kit is CS3222270 (D9GTR)

Happy to post my CS3222271-based settings, but for which clocks ?

Also what happens above 400FSB on yours ? Is your kit memtest stable at rated 800mhz/CL7 - mine needs about 1.68V for that.

[ragheb]

@ ragheb

hi ragheb , are you using a RE with CS3222271 (D9JNL) - same as me ?
I think ToyTen's kit is CS3222270 (D9GTR)

Happy to post my CS3222271-based settings, but for which clocks ?

Also what happens above 400FSB on yours ? Is your kit memtest stable at rated 800mhz/CL7 - mine needs about 1.68V for that.[/QUOTE]


Thanks cheapseats for your response & Happy New Year to all at Xtreme Systems..

As to your question, I am running I think the exact CS3222271 RAM as you as can be seen from the image below and I am struggling to get FSB beyond 380Mhz..I am stable though at 360 on OCCT which is hopelessly poor. All Bios settings are on AUTO except for the strap which is at 333 & the voltage increases shown on the Everest sensor page. I am also running it pretty cool on a WC for CPU / NB & GPU (8800 GTS slightly ovclkd).
I know in a post you sent on 8 Dec you showed FSB's from 450 at 1:2 all the way to 562 at 5:8 which is by my standard miraculous!!. I am using fairly similar volts increases as yourself but I am not sure whether I need to change the mem timings in Bios or via Memset.
I hope you can help as the lot of you here seem to be quiet geniuses at the huge overclocks...

[ci2kla]

@ ragheb

hi ragheb , are you using a RE with CS3222271 (D9JNL) - same as me ?
I think ToyTen's kit is CS3222270 (D9GTR)

Happy to post my CS3222271-based settings, but for which clocks ?

Also what happens above 400FSB on yours ? Is your kit memtest stable at rated 800mhz/CL7 - mine needs about 1.68V for that.


Thanks cheapseats for your response & Happy New Year to all at Xtreme Systems..

As to your question, I am running I think the exact CS3222271 RAM as you as can be seen from the image below and I am struggling to get FSB beyond 380Mhz..I am stable though at 360 on OCCT which is hopelessly poor. All Bios settings are on AUTO except for the strap which is at 333 & the voltage increases shown on the Everest sensor page. I am also running it pretty cool on a WC for CPU / NB & GPU (8800 GTS slightly ovclkd).
I know in a post you sent on 8 Dec you showed FSB's from 450 at 1:2 all the way to 562 at 5:8 which is by my standard miraculous!!. I am using fairly similar volts increases as yourself but I am not sure whether I need to change the mem timings in Bios or via Memset.
I hope you can help as the lot of you here seem to be quiet geniuses at the huge overclocks...

Hey man if you need any help just post here and I don't mind to help~
IMO, 380FSB should be a piece of cake considerin X48 natively supports 1600Mhz related FSB (400Mhz FSB).
If you're unstable in higher FSBs it's more likely that your ram is not stable. Hence a memtest86+ 2.01 run is recommended...
CPU VTT is rather high. For my rig I only need 1.19v to get 545FSB stable.
vCore is rather high as well. Most E8600 can do 4Ghz below 1.3v...
vNB is way too high...1.4v should be more then enough.
Also Set NBGTL to +20mv and it should give you a more stable situation.
Please try this out and report back so that to find out which part is holding you back

[cheapseats]

ragheb, maybe try this at 450FSB - since it's for the same kit etc, it could save time over working up from 360FSB. It's the maximum Memtest86+/HCI stable CL7 clock my kit will do. All volts are lower than you have been using....

As ci2kla mentioned - can you test with Memtest86+ and see what happens in Test 3 ? On my kit Test 3 shows errors with under- and overvolting, before any other test. With the other 450FSB settings below, vDIMM should be the only adjustment needed for the memory if your kit is capable of 900mhz/CL7.

If you can't pass 86+ at any vDIMM (higher or lower than mine), then bring down FSB 10mhz and test again. Keeping vDIMM as low as possible is key with my kit.

Not much to set for this FSB.....vTT/GTL *might* need adjustment/testing with higher CPU multi and vCORE, but vNB < 1.45V is plenty for 450x10/1:2/CL7 clocks using E8600 and 2x1GB CS3222271.

Hope it works

For 0403/1001 BIOS

1:2/900mhz/CL7 settings for CS3222271/E8600 (no CPU overclock)

AI OVERCLOCK TUNER =========================MANUAL
OC FROM CPU LEVEL ==========================AUTO
OC FROM MEMORY LEVEL UP ====================AUTO
FSB FREQUENCY ==============================450
CPU RATIO SETTING ==========================6-7.5 

CPU CLOCK SKEW =============================AUTO
NB CLOCK SKEW ==============================AUTO
FSB STRAP TO NORTH BRIDGE ==================266 or 333
PCIE FREQUENCY =============================100
DRAM FREQUENCY =============================1800
DRAM COMAND RATE ===========================1N
DRAM TIMING CONTROL ========================MANUAL
CAS LATENCY ================================7
RAS TO CAS DELAY ===========================7
RAS PRE TIME ===============================7
RAS ACT TIME ===============================14
RAS TO RAS DELAY ===========================AUTO
REF CYCLE TIME =============================AUTO
WRITE RECOVERY TIME ========================AUTO
READ TO PRE TIME ===========================AUTO
READ TO WRITE DELAY S/D ====================AUTO
WRITE TO READ DELAY S ======================AUTO
WRITE TO READ DELAY D ======================AUTO
READ TO READ DELAY S =======================AUTO
READ TO READ DELAY D =======================AUTO
WRITE TO WRITE DELAY S =====================AUTO
WRITE TO WRITE DELAY D =====================AUTO
WRITE TO PRE DELAY =========================AUTO
READ TO PRE DELAY ==========================AUTO
PRE TO PRE DELAY ===========================AUTO
ALL PRE TO ACT DELAY =======================AUTO
ALL PRE TO REF DELAY =======================AUTO
DRAM STATIC READ CONTROL ===================AUTO
DRAM DYNAMIC WRITE CONTROL =================AUTO

DRAM SKEW CONTROL
DRAM CMD SKEW ON CHANNEL A = AUTO
DRAM CLK SKEW ON DIMM A1 = AUTO
DRAM CLK SKEW ON DIMM A2 = AUTO
DRAM CTL SKEW ON DIMM A1 = AUTO
DRAM CTL SKEW ON DIMM A2 = AUTO

DRAM CMD SKEW ON CHANNEL B = AUTO
DRAM CLK SKEW ON DIMM B1 = AUTO
DRAM CLK SKEW ON DIMM B2 = AUTO
DRAM CTL SKEW ON DIMM B1 = AUTO
DRAM CTL SKEW ON DIMM B2 = AUTO


AI CLOCK TWISTER ===========================MODERATE or STRONG
AI TRANSACTION BOOSTER =====================MANUAL
PERFORMANCE LEVEL ==========================06

PULL-IN OF CHA PH1 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH2 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH3 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH4 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH5 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH1 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH2 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH3 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH4 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH5 =========================DISABLED

EPU II PHASE CONTROL =======================AUTO
CPU VOLTAGE ================================SET AS VID
LOAD-LINE CALIBRATION ======================DISABLED
CPU PLL VOLTAGE  ===========================1.51 
FSB TERMINATION VOLTAGE  ===================1.10 
CPU GTLVREF 0 ==============================AUTO 
CPU GTLVREF 1 ==============================AUTO
CPU GTLVREF 2 ==============================AUTO
CPU GTLVREF 3 ==============================AUTO
NB GTLVREF =================================AUTO
NORTH BRIDGE VOLTAGE =======================1.41-1.43 
DRAM VOLTAGE ===============================AS REQUIRED (MINE: 1.88-1.90 FOR HCI)
NB DDRVREF =================================AUTO
DDR3 CHANNEL A VREF ========================AUTO
DDR3 CHANNEL B VREF ========================AUTO
SOUTH BRIDGE 1.5 VOLTAGE ===================1.51 
SOUTH BRIDGE 1.05 VOLTAGE ==================1.06
CPU SPREAD SPRECTRUM =======================DISABLED
PCIE SPREAD SPECTRUM =======================DISABLED

[cstkl1]

ok sold off my rampage 2 extreme
e8600 only

here is the super stable setup for skewing at 563fsb 1800mhz 8-8-8-24 1t 2x2gb samsung hco team xtreem pc3-16000

AI OVERCLOCK TUNER =========================MANUAL
OC FROM CPU LEVEL ==========================AUTO
OC FROM MEMORY LEVEL UP ====================AUTO
FSB FREQUENCY ==============================564
CPU RATIO SETTING ==========================7-8 

CPU CLOCK SKEW =============================Delay 200
NB CLOCK SKEW ==============================Normal
FSB STRAP TO NORTH BRIDGE ==================333
PCIE FREQUENCY =============================100
DRAM FREQUENCY =============================1800
DRAM COMAND RATE ===========================1N
DRAM TIMING CONTROL ========================MANUAL
CAS LATENCY ================================8
RAS TO CAS DELAY ===========================8
RAS PRE TIME ===============================8
RAS ACT TIME ===============================24
RAS TO RAS DELAY ===========================AUTO
REF CYCLE TIME =============================72/88
WRITE RECOVERY TIME ========================AUTO
READ TO PRE TIME ===========================AUTO
READ TO WRITE DELAY S/D ====================AUTO
WRITE TO READ DELAY S ======================AUTO
WRITE TO READ DELAY D ======================AUTO
READ TO READ DELAY S =======================AUTO
READ TO READ DELAY D =======================AUTO
WRITE TO WRITE DELAY S =====================AUTO
WRITE TO WRITE DELAY D =====================AUTO
WRITE TO PRE DELAY =========================AUTO
READ TO PRE DELAY ==========================AUTO
PRE TO PRE DELAY ===========================AUTO
ALL PRE TO ACT DELAY =======================AUTO
ALL PRE TO REF DELAY =======================AUTO
DRAM STATIC READ CONTROL ===================AUTO
DRAM DYNAMIC WRITE CONTROL =================AUTO

DRAM SKEW CONTROL
DRAM CMD SKEW ON CHANNEL A = Normal
DRAM CLK SKEW ON DIMM A1 = Advance 125
DRAM CLK SKEW ON DIMM A2 = Advance 125
DRAM CTL SKEW ON DIMM A1 = Advance 25
DRAM CTL SKEW ON DIMM A2 = Advance 25

DRAM CMD SKEW ON CHANNEL B = Advance 50
DRAM CLK SKEW ON DIMM B1 = Advance 100
DRAM CLK SKEW ON DIMM B2 = Advance 100
DRAM CTL SKEW ON DIMM B1 = Advance 50
DRAM CTL SKEW ON DIMM B2 = Advance 50

DRAM Read/Dynamic Write = Disabled
AI CLOCK TWISTER ===========================MODERATE 
AI TRANSACTION BOOSTER =====================MANUAL
PERFORMANCE LEVEL ==========================09

PULL-IN OF CHA PH1 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH2 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH3 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH4 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH5 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH1 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH2 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH3 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH4 =========================DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH5 =========================DISABLED

EPU II PHASE CONTROL =======================AUTO
CPU VOLTAGE ================================
LOAD-LINE CALIBRATION ======================DISABLED
CPU PLL VOLTAGE  ===========================1.51 
FSB TERMINATION VOLTAGE  ===================1.29 
CPU GTLVREF 0 ==============================+40 
CPU GTLVREF 1 ==============================AUTO
CPU GTLVREF 2 ==============================AUTO
CPU GTLVREF 3 ==============================AUTO
NB GTLVREF =================================AUTO
NORTH BRIDGE VOLTAGE =======================1.59 
DRAM VOLTAGE ===============================1.9
NB DDRVREF =================================+12.5
DDR3 CHANNEL A VREF ========================+25
DDR3 CHANNEL B VREF ========================+25
SOUTH BRIDGE 1.5 VOLTAGE ===================1.51 
SOUTH BRIDGE 1.05 VOLTAGE ==================1.06
CPU SPREAD SPRECTRUM =======================DISABLED
PCIE SPREAD SPECTRUM =======================DISABLED

[/QUOTE]

ram skewing
for 500fsb 1600mhz Cl7-7-7-20-1t
use same skewing except no nbdram /dram A/B = Auto, fsb termination 1.12
dram at 1.67 ....nb = 1.25v
400fsb is the same.

vtt for 563 fsb termination issue .....1.19 for IBT stable
but will fail on my test 3 for orthos .. set blend.. then custom min fft 4096... only fsb termination at 1.29 will pass.
theres other ways to force 1.19 to pass for both but will result in weird irregular issues with usb ports.

[Ghostleader]

ok sold off my rampage 2 extreme
e8600 only

here is the super stable setup for skewing at 563fsb 1800mhz 8-8-8-24 1t 2x2gb samsung hco team xtreem pc3-16000

ram skewing
for 500fsb 1600mhz Cl7-7-7-20-1t
use same skewing except no nbdram /dram A/B = Auto, fsb termination 1.12
dram at 1.67 ....nb = 1.25v
400fsb is the same.

vtt for 563 fsb termination issue .....1.19 for IBT stable
but will fail on my test 3 for orthos .. set blend.. then custom min fft 4096... only fsb termination at 1.29 will pass.
theres other ways to force 1.19 to pass for both but will result in weird irregular issues with usb ports.

Nice of you to share this with us.

I really like to know how do you know how to tune all of those DRAM skews?

I don´t even know how to start tuning those skews. Feel free to PM me with some guidelines.


What will be your next board?

[cstkl1]

Nice of you to share this with us.

I really like to know how do you know how to tune all of those DRAM skews?

I don´t even know how to start tuning those skews. Feel free to PM me with some guidelines.


What will be your next board?

dont mind posting just that some joker will take this and make it a permanent guide for everything...
that is just pure misinformation

ok ram skewing guide for e8600 + samsung hco 2x2gb dimm a2/b2 the rest u have u test it ureself

software needed memtest86 / IBT / Orthos

Before u begin u must set the cpu skew/nb skew.. and not leave it in auto.
for e8600 confirmed up to 500fsb both is set at normal
oops forgot to mention that.


CLK Skew
first skew to test would be clk leave the rest in auto
so far i found that leaving Channel A +25 advance more than Channel B
use IBT to confirm say in windows diagnostic mode 4gb kit atleast 60 roughly 4 hours and 2gb kit atleast 200 runs with 1600mhz above i had to use clk skews +nb/dram vtt

CTL Skew and CMD Skew
with the ram i tested i found out that CMD skew is the indicator for ctl skew
meaning if the cmd skew is on delay than the ctl skew also must be in delay
if the cmd skew is on advance than the ctl skew is also in advance
and for me cmd skew is best with channel A1/A2 advance 50 to channel B1/B2
and for ctl skew like cheapseat uses channel A1/A2 delayed 25 to channel B1/B2

Test first initial test
use memtest86 test 5 only and run in loops... set vdimm one notch below than the perfect vdimm confirmed at ure setting
test 5 for memtest86 is the best indicator for nb voltage/vdimm voltage and skewing stability and also tRFC..
so example if u set cmd skew in delay then delay the ctl skews and test
find the limit.
later retest with clk skews to find the best almost perfect to pass excepts maybe hangs on pass 2-3. Take note there is no errors.. only hang.. if errors that means skewing is wrongly set.

Retest with orthos in diagnostic mode
Set to blend.. and then custom min fft 4096 max 4096 priority 10.
try to pass more than 4 hours... take note this is hard.. a lot of test that will pass memtest86/hci memtest will not pass this.
example the config above trfc 60 pass 35 mins/72 4hours 12 mins/88 24 hours manually stopped
also noted was at 563 fsb fsb termination at 1.19 for IBT but for this test requires 1.29
have fun

1600 CL7 tRFC 110.. vdimm 1.65 for samsung hco 2x2gb with the same skewing

then try running 3dmark06 in loops.. and see whether ure gc fps sometiemes goes haywire..
so far with the skewing i did above solved all this issue


eh sorry typo had to give back my rampage 2 extreme.. test unit
and sold off the rampage extreme because i am tired and dont think can go further

also last note.. with the skewing above u can reduce ure nb voltage example for 563 fsb from no skewing at 1.61set(1.59set) to skewing at 1.59set( 1.56 true).. i call that worth it...
so far doesnt do much for vdimm voltages for me personally
also y skewing is so important
so far from my experience if i get 4ghz and whatever fsb super stable and all the skewing right.. then upping the multi and vcore is 100% confirmed and trouble free from any ram or nb voltage issues...this is y this mobo can do 4.5ghz confirm stable everytime
the maximus 2 etc.. i can get today 4.5ghz stable 6 hours small fft priority 10.. and again tommorow fail in 3 minutes.. and next day pass 1 hour etc etc.. because of skewing..
vcore voltage reduction ... cmd skews affects this..

[frank.lopez]

hi frank - sorry for the late reply and hope you've sorted it already. My own 4x1 experience is too limited to make any useful suggestions - my max 4x1GB clock was 800mhz (1600)....CL8 No quad here either.

Also Frank, the DDRref settings that I mentioned testing, were for 2x1GB D9JNL and at 500FSB/1:2/CL8/vNB 1.60/vDIMM 1.90
(I used NBDDR +12.5 and A/B DDR +12.5).




@ ragheb

hi ragheb , are you using a RE with CS3222271 (D9JNL) - same as me ?
I think ToyTen's kit is CS3222270 (D9GTR)

Happy to post my CS3222271-based settings, but for which clocks ?

Also what happens above 400FSB on yours ? Is your kit memtest stable at rated 800mhz/CL7 - mine needs about 1.68V for that.

My Kits are CS3222580 - PC3 14400

do you think i should try to change spd info?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=190793

[sunny7day]

hard to break 14k

[Expat GriZ]

hard to break 14k

Well, for me anyway....but is sure feels good when you do!!
I want to tighten up the back end of the ram...hope to be +13,000 across the board!!

[aln688]

Need some advice regarding cooling HDDs in a Lian-Li rack. It is really necessary to cool two Seagate 7200.10 7200 RPM HDDs with an 80mm fan? I'm using this Lian-Li EX23NB HDD module here:



While it seems a nice idea to blow air across the drives, these aren't Ultra 160 SCSI drives like I used to have, so I don't see the need. I've also saw a few Dell XPS machines with HDDs with no fan cooling them.

The only plus to keeping the fan is that cool air runs across the drive and into the CPU area behind it. I've already got a Panaflo medium-speed 86 CFM 120x120x38mm fan front and rear.

Thanks.

[sunny7day]

Well, for me anyway....but is sure feels good when you do!!
I want to tighten up the back end of the ram...hope to be +13,000 across the board!!

It had big trouble capturing the screen above 14100+. With loosing timming I can cap the screen:

[ci2kla]

Well, maybe time to surrender...
471FSB stable seems easy but difficult for me
IBT v1.9 20 loops Stable, PI Stale, OCCT Stable
But BSOD in ORTHOS Large FFTs....no matter what settings used.
Just totally confused.

[emvella]

Well, maybe time to surrender...
471FSB stable seems easy but difficult for me
IBT v1.9 20 loops Stable, PI Stale, OCCT Stable
But BSOD in ORTHOS Large FFTs....no matter what settings used.
Just totally confused.

Yep it's hard getting quads stable on this board. Very sensitive to gtl's - all cores have to run in perfect synch for stability. Till now only got perfect stability up to 450 FSB x8.5 with Q9550 CPU and G Skill 12800 Pi 2x2GB Ram - learning slowly but surely. Hope this attacment helps to start to understand cpu gtl and NB gtl settings.