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  1. 12-29-2008, 09:54 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by G H Z View Post
    It's beating a Wolf already @ similar MHz, not saying much though comparing 4 cores to 2.
    i have a 6GHz dual core run with my low bug cards at 30.5K (obviously AMD at some clocks will beat it)

    good wolfdales should do '06 at 6.3 maybe more so they are no slouches

    i think Andre had some monster dual core chip which could bench '06 ridiculously high

    obviously the real deal is with nehalems and a 5GHz nehalem is just crazy let alone faster and a few benchers seem to have chips that go beyond 5Ghz heh

    it looks to me like a non-contest nehalem vs deneb in '06...probably same deal with vantage i guess

    unless Andre is showing us some crappy runs here that dont represent real figures heheh
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    My chip did easy 6GHz 3DM06 run in Chicago, so I will do my Phenom II runs in mid January with that cpu. It is nice to have more parts to play with.

    Comparing Phenom II to other processors is hard.. We should remember, that the price of these will not be 1000-1200€. These are very powerfull cheap systems.. It's good for masses.
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  3. 12-30-2008, 12:29 AM #28
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    Really nice score! I waiting more! Thanks your share Andre!
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    Andre show us higher score please

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    Andre: why are not using HT Link multiplier 5x?

    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    i have a 6GHz dual core run with my low bug cards at 30.5K (obviously AMD at some clocks will beat it)
    Low bug cards? This isn't 3DM03
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    nice result I think!

    but nothing compared with a good Core i7 or a good QX CPU.
    I will see some CPU Score on 6G and unter XP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreYang View Post
    If you go very cold, the HT cannot go 1000+ stable. HT 1000+ on air no problem.
    More Volatage on everything? In first step I had problems with HTT/HT/NB freq. On my last bench on cascade (-114*C) I had 280HTT, and 2250 HT/NB freq. with no problems Go and puch it higher ;]

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  8. 12-30-2008, 02:43 AM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Andre: why are not using HT Link multiplier 5x?



    Low bug cards? This isn't 3DM03
    according to some '05 has some issues as '06

    throw nehalem into the mix and it gets even crazier hehehe
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  9. 12-30-2008, 02:44 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by SF3D View Post
    My chip did easy 6GHz 3DM06 run in Chicago, so I will do my Phenom II runs in mid January with that cpu. It is nice to have more parts to play with.

    Comparing Phenom II to other processors is hard.. We should remember, that the price of these will not be 1000-1200€. These are very powerfull cheap systems.. It's good for masses.
    you're right dude
    that is true indeed
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  10. 12-30-2008, 04:38 AM #35
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    Damn.. Deneb is crazy, and it uses cheap ddr2 to boot! Might be cheaper to switch to deneb than i7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrolock View Post
    Might be cheaper to switch to deneb than i7
    Oh...it will DEFINITELY be cheaper to move to Deneb than I7 and the PhenomII will offer better benching value for moeny...but will there be WR??

    Nice scores Andre, but dont try an saythats all you have to show us
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    according to some '05 has some issues as '06
    Define some and link me to the results they claim to be slower on low-bug cards.
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    Read it somewhere as wel.
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    Comparison Nehalem@4.2Ghz(Air) with X2 4870 Crossfire X



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    I think that PII will be a very fun and inexpensive way to bench. Will it beat a 965 in vantage? Of course not... but this is great news for everyone who doesnt have an i7 budget. Not to mention with a golden 6.5 (maybe ?) cpu you can still do damage!

    I want to see how they clock in 01 myself... could you try that Andre?
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Andre: why are not using HT Link multiplier 5x?



    Low bug cards? This isn't 3DM03


    HT has some problems on cpu cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreYang View Post
    HT has some problems on cpu cold.
    http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/2230/52258695qa6.jpg

    Cascade (-114*C), you want see more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryba View Post
    http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/2230/52258695qa6.jpg

    Cascade (-114*C), you want see more?



    Core 2????

    My chip cannot go high HT on 3D06 under LN2 -180.
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    thx for posting Andre

    its going to be exiting to follow these for sure

    keep pushing it
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreYang View Post
    Core 2????

    My chip cannot go high HT on 3D06 under LN2 -180.
    afaik ht cold bug has been fixed in very latest revision.. so wait for retail parts

    We will be using these latest retails parts in Las Vegas next week (XS party).

    Anyway, good start with '06
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreYang View Post
    HT has some problems on cpu cold.
    Even at 5x multiplier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampsa View Post
    afaik ht cold bug has been fixed in very latest revision.. so wait for retail parts

    We will be using these latest retails parts in Las Vegas next week (XS party).

    Anyway, good start with '06
    what about the shanghai thats on newegg will they clock good on a 4x4 board and also is there any plans for a ati chipset versions??
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreYang View Post
    Core 2????

    My chip cannot go high HT on 3D06 under LN2 -180.
    2 cores, b'couse MSI 790GX can hold that high CPU freq. stable with 4 cores. With all cores enable I can make something like 50MHz less, but with the same settings HT/HTT/NB/Memory/Timings.

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    Nice andre!

    Which bios did you use?
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