AMD Phenom II 920 & 940 Full Review

[gosh]

I think that these results are very good. It seems that Phenom II is almost equal to C2Q in applications where C2Q has the best performance (rendering etc). That is a area where not even I would recommend Phenom previously. If the Phenom II is equal here that means it will be a very good buy because if you run more applications the performance of C2Q goes down faster than Phenom, it dosen't scale as good as Phenom. Most users today does practice multitasking.
i7 Seems to have been designed to be good on performance tests, I don't think that Phenom has the same goal. They seem to have designed Phenom II to be very power efficient. Even if that isn't something that XS members think about, it is a important area for others
The inclusive cache which i7 has will always be more power hungry compared to the exclusive cache that Phenom II has.

[OverClocker_gr]

Thanks for FIRST review of Phenom II OverClocker_gr!

I have quick question regarding setups.
Are you using energy saving options of AMD and Intel platforms or you disabled them in BIOS?

PS. Can't wait for updates on your website...

All energy saving options are disabled

[Shadov]

When I look at some comments I wonder if those people live on the same planet or are just spoiled brats.

Deneb was not meant to be a competitor to i7 and thats clear. Just calculate the price difference of the platform (CPU + MB + RAM). Its huge!

Furthermore looking at the results AMD will offer a sexy cost / performance wise platform, that will last much longer then Intel socket 775. Yet again some people are asking for clock per clock comparisons of two different architectures.

With such requests Intel dosent need any marketing, since as a result people who are less it educated and dont know the real price behind it will think that Intel is still leading across board. Though usually when they consider a purchase they are in the price segments where AMD should have the clear recomendation with their platform.

Look at the GPU market, where ATI HD 4870/4850 didnt perform like GTX280 but captured the hearts of users price/performance wise. Why is the CPU market still so different, ignorant or simply ...?

Just a free thought in a foreign language.

[Jochenp]

I think that these results are very good. It seems that Phenom II is almost equal to C2Q in applications where C2Q has the best performance (rendering etc). That is a area where not even I would recommend Phenom previously. If the Phenom II is equal here that means it will be a very good buy because if you run more applications the performance of C2Q goes down faster than Phenom, it dosen't scale as good as Phenom. Most users today does practice multitasking.
i7 Seems to have been designed to be good on performance tests, I don't think that Phenom has the same goal. They seem to have designed Phenom II to be very power efficient. Even if that isn't something that XS members think about, it is a important area for others
The inclusive cache which i7 has will always be more power hungry compared to the exclusive cache that Phenom II has.

Proof for anything you just said? Especially the bolded parts?
"Intel just made the cpu fast on tests, in real life it isn't as good"?

[sundancerx]

Proof for anything you just said? Especially the bolded parts?
"Intel just made the cpu fast on tests, in real life it isn't as good"?

turbo? lol just guessing here. some people are saying its not sustainable over long periods of pc use.

[gosh]

"Intel just made the cpu fast on tests, in real life it isn't as good"?

Who wrote that more than you?
If you should quote then copy and paste.

If you can handle a discussion about processor design I can discuss it with you, otherwise just put me on the "ignore list". There is a lot of information about caches and how these processors work. Start there