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    Who/what company can I contact for a test and review sample?

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    Curse'd language barrier. >.<


    oooh, exciting.

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    Lol @ funky test pics!

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    hmmmm

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    How does the Zern PQ+ perform relative to the EK Supreme or Swiftech GTZ? If I read those charts right it is about 1C better than the Zern with really low power fans. Seriously 8dBA? What is the point to those fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    hmmmm
    Hmmmm.. that's extremely thin, possibly the thinnest base of any waterblock.

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    Any thinner and it'd be direct-die cooling. Aah, the old days of glueing plastic caps on Cyrix 6x86s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Cyph3r View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkosem View Post
    Any thinner and it'd be direct-die cooling. Aah, the old days of glueing plastic caps on Cyrix 6x86s...

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    Is there such a thing as a direct die CPU block? I was thinking an O ring seal around the IHS of the CPU that fits into a grove in the housing of the block pressed on by the CPU mounting mechanism would work quite well.. Is there such a puppy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.y2k.r1 View Post
    Is there such a thing as a direct die CPU block? I was thinking an O ring seal around the IHS of the CPU that fits into a grove in the housing of the block pressed on by the CPU mounting mechanism would work quite well.. Is there such a puppy?

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    People ave made them but they are far to risky to ever be sold through retail channels.

    Also to get the best heat dissipation you need to mill some kind of fin/pin grid into the ihs as running water over the smooth IHS would in all likelihood perform worse than a good non direct die block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post

    Also, if applied right you wouldn't need a pin matrix on the IHS itself, just a extreme flat IHS. From everything I've done, that strikes the best balence between direct IHS cooling and usability.

    More to come later)

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    See that does make sense to me, because you are saying that water directly on the IHS does not conduct heat as well as a heat sync pressed ontop of the IHS with pins... That cannot be correct, it's got to be due to surface area and the lack of with the direct concept. You could compensate so that by bringing the "ceiling" down closer to the IHS after the water enters the area, creating higher pressure in the block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    Well,

    I'm not going to entirely tip my design just yet. What I am saying is there are different ways of acheiving better thermal conductivity than what's been produced so far. I'm actually asserting just the opposiste in a round about way

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    Actually from what I just checked out, copper is around 800 times better at conducting heat than water so... http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/th...ity-d_429.html I need to work out some numbers. And, it should not be that hard to get the concept right so it's no more risky than a standard LC system. I'm sure people felt the same way about the risks when the accepted LC systems were first proposed.

    Has anyone ever tried adding super fine grains of copper to their loops?? If enough of it was in the loop and did not clog anything that should dramatically increase thermal conductivity and the greatly increase the rate of heat transfer.
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    I think that would add to the viscocity of the cooling solution and add more work to the pump which might increase the heat dump of the pump.

    That is an interesting idea though for better cooling properties of the cooling solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    As far as the OP topic goes, I'd love to get one of the blocks if it ever becomes availible in the US. It looks like a great design to me, and I'd love to test it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    Also, if applied right you wouldn't need a pin matrix on the IHS itself, just a extreme flat IHS. From everything I've done, that strikes the best balence between direct IHS cooling and usability.

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    if you people want test results for this still, I have one on the way and will be doing some heavy tests with it on a lapped q6600

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
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    This is sounding interesting......

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    So mcoffey engineers Swiftech's water blocks? I too am intrigued by the idea of using water direct on the surface of the CPU.

    As for the idea of dumping fine amounts of copper into the coolant, sounds like a king way to foul your pump, and increase the conductivity of your coolant for galvanic corrosion. Especially for those with silver kill coins and coils in their loops.

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    If it actually uses microchannels it will be the block I was anticipating since 2006.
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    I think Gabe is just waiting for you to perfect the design so he can show up at your house with a couple of Swifty goons to "buy you out" the way Bill Gates bought out Homer Simpson when he started up an IT company.



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