AMD Phenom II 920 & 940 Full Review

[Leeghoofd]

Look i told you what i think about "benches" you used.They are lame and not representing real world apps(apart games and newly added x264 HD encoding Benchmark). Call it "Full preview in synthetic non real world applications" or something similar.

I think you saw reviews of another planet... if you even had the slightest idea how boring it is to watch all them gamedemos, benches,... To rerun them 3-5 times to obtain an average result... if the numbers don't please ya plz don't post anymore as it's getting very annoying what you and some other are trying to force here...

I find it a very objective review and it's one of the first too. It seems the guys are still working hard on the review and are adding results all the time. so it's not done yet !!!

Maybe it doesn't include all the applications you run. But feel free to link me to a website that does all your stuff in their reviews... people want to see what they are known to see... 3dmarks, Superpi's, games,... boring for you ? I think your stuff is even more boring even though they are your real world apps...

The review shows clearly the weaknesses and the strengths to me of the New Phenom II@stock... Is PII overhyped : yep it is to me. AMD's for sure is on the way back CPU wise, but not in a brutal way as some would have hoped (like they did with the GPU's...)

PhenomII is a decent CPU, is it a revolution ? Nope it's a nice evolution...but nothing earthshattering...If you don't see that too bad... it's a good upgrade for most AM2 users, can it compete with I7 ? ( as this seem to be the CPU of interest for most flamers here)... hardly think so... but it will extend the life cycle of AM2 socket for current AMD users which is a very good thing.

And don't repeat a zillion times how expensive I7 is... the i920 retails a tiny bit higher as your beloved PII 940 here... just the mobo and ram are more expensive ( this is if you like triple channel kits) What will you do with AM3 ? As you will have to use the same DDR3 modules as we are using now on socket 775 or I7 platform...I can buy a decent 4GB PC12800C9 kit for 120 euro's, I7 mobo's are retailing around 220 euro's...

Only thing that keeps me from moving to I7 is the heatoutput when doing 4Ghz ops...I'll await Bulldozer or the I7 die shrink...PII it will not be... unless to mess around with it

Give the HWbox guys some time to complete the review and add some more stuff instead of being so rude and ungratefull...

I really hope the AMD fanboys will get some "real" numbers from other sites, that are being referred to as more "reliable" or let's just say that they publish results that PLEASE you...

Good job Team Hwbox !! Plz add some more games and then finally the OC'ing and thermal/consumption part...

Nuff said...

[roofsniper]

Finally, if you have seen with your own eyes that ph2@stock can do better feel free to post in this thread your scores so we can see it too. Either now or the following weeks.

Regards.

i have nothing to post right now as i have never had one for my own use. if i am lucky tho i should have one in a few days. i will post my results then.

[sundancerx]

I think you saw reviews of another planet... if you even had the slightest idea how boring it is to watch all them gamedemos, benches,... To rerun them 3-5 times to obtain an average result... if the numbers don't please ya plz don't post anymore as it's getting very annoying what you and some other are trying to force here...

I find it a very objective review and it's one of the first too. It seems the guys are still working hard on the review and are adding results all the time. so it's not done yet !!!

Maybe it doesn't include all the applications you run. But feel free to link me to a website that does all your stuff in their reviews... people want to see what they are known to see... 3dmarks, Superpi's, games,... boring for you ? I think your stuff is even more boring even though they are your real world apps...

The review shows clearly the weaknesses and the strengths to me of the New Phenom II@stock... Is PII overhyped : yep it is to me. AMD's for sure is on the way back CPU wise, but not in a brutal way as some would have hoped (like they did with the GPU's...)

PhenomII is a decent CPU, is it a revolution ? Nope it's a nice evolution...but nothing earthshattering...If you don't see that too bad... it's a good upgrade for most AM2 users, can it compete with I7 ? ( as this seem to be the CPU of interest for most flamers here)... hardly think so... but it will extend the life cycle of AM2 socket for current AMD users which is a very good thing.

And don't repeat a zillion times how expensive I7 is... the i920 retails a tiny bit higher as your beloved PII 940 here... just the mobo and ram are more expensive ( this is if you like triple channel kits) What will you do with AM3 ? As you will have to use the same DDR3 modules as we are using now on socket 775 or I7 platform...I can buy a decent 4GB PC12800C9 kit for 120 euro's, I7 mobo's are retailing around 220 euro's...

Only thing that keeps me from moving to I7 is the heatoutput when doing 4Ghz ops...I'll await Bulldozer or the I7 die shrink...PII it will not be... unless to mess around with it

Give the HWbox guys some time to complete the review and add some more stuff instead of being so rude and ungratefull...

I really hope the AMD fanboys will get some "real" numbers from other sites, that are being referred to as more "reliable" or let's just say that they publish results that PLEASE you...

Good job Team Hwbox !! Plz add some more games and then finally the OC'ing and thermal/consumption part...

Nuff said...

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very good post!!!
yeah clock to clock comparison at say 3.2-3.4 (on air@stock cooler if possible) to see performance scaling (with corresponding temp/system wattage). more games pls.

[OverClocker_gr]

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very good post!!!
yeah clock to clock comparison at say 3.2-3.4 (on air@stock cooler if possible) to see performance scaling (with corresponding temp/system wattage). more games pls.

the clock to clock comparison is set to be @ 3.1.
If i have enough time i will rerun them @ 3.7.

The power consumption is sthing easy.

About the temps,there is no program to read from the diode to support deneb.

So i think you dont want to see temps from a mobo prog(call me asus probe etc)

[sundancerx]

the clock to clock comparison is set to be @ 3.1.
If i have enough time i will rerun them @ 3.7.

The power consumption is sthing easy.

About the temps,there is no program to read from the diode to support deneb.

So i think you dont want to see temps from a mobo prog(call me asus probe etc)

ok thnks very much. are you gonna review few more games, 3 or 4 more of the latest ones?
i forgot about 9950be(shud be very cheap these days), if you can include in review.