Best Gaming Mouse *Vote*

[man_bear_pig]

Got a steelseries ikari last week and love it. I also got another one for x-mas, unopened I may sell it. I guess its all about preferences, but this is the best one I have owned. I have had every logitech gaming mouse ever made, and the quality of the ikari is as good or better.

[grimREEFER]

love my lachesis.
but i suppose with any of the high end mice, give it time and it will eventually feel like an extension of your hand.

[rockfella]

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[rockfella]

Not worthy enough to upgrade + u might get the newer ones with thick bases (only 2)... stick with old one imo...

Mx-518 1600 dpi version right here,going to get the 1800 dpi version soon.

[rockfella]

Ah, seems like i have the best gaming mouse ever ha? I got the old MX518 1800 DPI 5 rubberfeet one hehe...

[Macadamia]

The G9 is the best Logitech. I hate Razers.


I *MIGHT* get a Cordless Sidewinder if this G9 fails next year, and if I get a boatload of cash.

[T_Flight]

If you are looking for a true gaming grade mouse, then there is only one...a Razer. Choose your DPI. Once you get up to about 2000 it really doesn't matter. Once you get up that high go on looks and feel and wehter you are left or right handed. I also chose based on looks. Alot of the Razers have 2000 dpi sensors, but I didn't like the look. I love my Copperhead becasue it is exactly like I want it, and if I were to build one it would be just like it.

Razers are not cheap, and that shows in the poll. What you are seeing is a poll based on price, but you have to remember that you get what you pay for. My Razer has a gold connector. Even rthe cable is designed for gaming. The sensor is not just about dpi. If you go onto Razer's site you will find out that alot of companies leave out specs...specs that Razer shows. It's becasue those companies have not been able to measure up to those specs.

There is a reason winner's, and pro's choose Razers. They can be put into the category this thread was supposed to be about...the "best". After owning numerous Logitech mice, and moving up to the Razer's, I can tell you without a doubt that I will not be going back.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

no T, the reason winners and pro's choose razer is that they get payed a lot of money to say that....

the real pros are good enough with their hand eye coordination it doesnt matter what mouse they use anyway. I have use 5 different models of razer mice and all I can tell you is that they bring frustration with their inconsistency and glitchy drivers

[SaiNRuB]

Logitech G9 and prior was a Razer Diamondback Plasma LE.

[T_Flight]

no T, the reason winners and pro's choose razer is that they get payed a lot of money to say that....

the real pros are good enough with their hand eye coordination it doesnt matter what mouse they use anyway. I have use 5 different models of razer mice and all I can tell you is that they bring frustration with their inconsistency and glitchy drivers

The real pros can get any company they want, but they choose to go with Razer.

I have never had an issue with drivers. I'm even running beta's right this second.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

The real pros can get any company they want, but they choose to go with Razer.

I have never had an issue with drivers. I'm even running beta's right this second.

you dont seem to understand, Razer pays them MORE money than anyone in their right mind is willing to. There is no legitimate link to razer's quality and the pro's using their mice.

I know quite a few lan players and cal-I CS players who are sponsored by them and they all tell me this exact same story.

[T_Flight]

If you are having issues with drivers ona Razer mouse. Check to make sure your driver version wortks with your firmware versuion. If that's OK, reset the mouse (instructions on the Razer site) clear out the firmware, reflash, and reload a clean copy of the drivers. A bad download, or a bad flash can really bork one up. It's scary, but you can reset and reflash. It is safe as long as you follow their directions.

[rockfella]

no T, the reason winners and pro's choose razer is that they get payed a lot of money to say that....

the real pros are good enough with their hand eye coordination it doesnt matter what mouse they use anyway. I have use 5 different models of razer mice and all I can tell you is that they bring frustration with their inconsistency and glitchy drivers

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

If you are having issues with drivers ona Razer mouse. Check to make sure your driver version wortks with your firmware versuion. If that's OK, reset the mouse (instructions on the Razer site) clear out the firmware, reflash, and reload a clean copy of the drivers. A bad download, or a bad flash can really bork one up. It's scary, but you can reset and reflash. It is safe as long as you follow their directions.

no thats not the issue. their drivers dont work very well in windows its not an issue of not working with the mouse.

and if you really wanna talk firmware lets talk about how the deathadder could read your mousepad up to an inch away from the surface up until about a few months ago. the mouse has been out for over a year now.

[T_Flight]

you dont seem to understand, Razer pays them MORE money than anyone in their right mind is willing to. There is no legitimate link to razer's quality and the pro's using their mice.

I know quite a few lan players and cal-I CS players who are sponsored by them and they all tell me this exact same story.

I've been sponsored in all kinds of hobby's. That argument doesn't fly man. I have turned down companies before that would've paid me airfare for flying before becasue i didn;t wanna go through the hassle of using their products and suffering losses when I was flying aerobatic competitions. People use that BS argument all the time to diss quality products. It's BS...that's all it is. A pro is gonna use the best...period. If you think they are gonna risk a loss with substandard hardware think again. I have turned down golden deals before becasue an engine maker was nothing but trouble, and I watched as other pilots sat on the ground watching becasue they had broken cranks, mixture troubles, and everything else.

It's the same thing with any hobby. People who are sponsored choose VERY carefully. They're name is on the line. They don't "Get paid to say stuff". I have *never* been paid to say stuff. In fact it was just the opposite. If I was ever caught making BS up just to sell stuff I would've been kicked out ina heartbeat. Companies that are on top don't make up BS...they don't need to.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I've been sponsored in all kinds of hobby's. That argument doesn't fly man. I have turned down companies before that would've paid me airfare for flying before becasue i didn;t wanna go through the hassle of using their products and suffering losses when I was flying aerobatic competitions. People use that BS argument all the time to diss quality products. It's BS...that's all it is. A pro is gonna use the best...period. If you think they are gonna risk a loss with substandard hardware think again. I have turned down golden deals before becasue an engine maker was nothing but trouble, and I watched as other pilots sat on the ground watching becasue they had broken cranks, mixture troubles, and everything else.

It's the same thing with any hobby. People who are sponsored choose VERY carefully. They're name is on the line. They don't "Get paid to say stuff". I have *never* been paid to say stuff. In fact it was just the opposite. If I was ever caught making BS up just to sell stuff I would've been kicked out ina heartbeat. Companies that are on top don't make up BS...they don't need to.

you also clearly have another backbone career to support you other than being sponsored for what you do. don't think I am lying, I talk to the people who are sponsored I have a first-hand account of the facts

90% of pro gamers only play games, they have no other way to make money. they therefore take whoever offers them the most $$$. as I said, a truly good pro gamer doesnt need more than 800dpi to get the mouse to do exactly what his hand wants it to. All mouse "technology advancements" are e-peen showoff changes and none of it really matters at all.

point and case: most gamers who aren't sponsored by a mouse company use microsoft intellimouse over any other.

[T_Flight]

Really? I'm not sponsored. I guess I've been hallucinating and using an Intellimouse all this time.

Fact: There are a ton of unsponsored people here using Razers and none of them are "Paid to say that", including me.

Edited to add: You do realize there are laws against false advertising don't you?

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Really? I'm not sponsored. I guess I've been hallucinating and using an Intellimouse all this time.

Fact: There are a ton of unsponsored people here using Razers and none of them are "Paid to say that", including me.

Edited to add: You do realize there are laws against false advertising don't you?

ok I'll try this one more time using the example of professional athletics.

a pro football player is extremely good at football even if he's just wearing walmart brand equipment. He also has no other job than to play sports.

thus pro athletes give their advertising contracts to the company who is going to pay them the MOST money. The athlete doesn't care because it doesn't matter to him what he wears.

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flash to professional gamers, in the same situation as the athlete described above.

he doesn't care what he uses for gaming equipment as long as when his hand moves right the cursor moves right etc.

razer pays them more money than any other company to say "hey use razer, its the best and I use it!!!" considering the reasoning in the advertising is completely subjective there is no false advertising law that can get razer for doing this, life goes on.


now onto all the people on these boards that say razer is great. their reasoning is completely subjective as well. not to mention that people who say "OMG razer is teh best because the pros use their mice!" have clearly fallen prey to their marketing techniques and also enjoy the added placebo effect with their daily gaming.

[T_Flight]

ok I'll try this one more time using the example of professional athletics.

a pro football player is extremely good at football even if he's just wearing walmart brand equipment. He also has no other job than to play sports.

thus pro athletes give their advertising contracts to the company who is going to pay them the MOST money. The athlete doesn't care because it doesn't matter to him what he wears.

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flash to professional gamers, in the same situation as the athlete described above.

he doesn't care what he uses for gaming equipment as long as when his hand moves right the cursor moves right etc.

razer pays them more money than any other company to say "hey use razer, its the best and I use it!!!" considering the reasoning in the advertising is completely subjective there is no false advertising law that can get razer for doing this, life goes on.


now onto all the people on these boards that say razer is great. their reasoning is completely subjective as well. not to mention that people who say "OMG razer is teh best because the pros use their mice!" have clearly fallen prey to their marketing techniques and also enjoy the added placebo effect with their daily gaming.

I guess you just don't understand. I guess to understand you'd have to be sponsored at some point in your life. Oh well, I tried...

I don't have time to go back and forth with you again on here today, and I'm not. Later.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I guess you just don't understand. I guess to understand you'd have to be sponsored at some point in your life. Oh well, I tried...

I don't have time to go back and forth with you again on here today, and I'm not. Later.

I'm not saying your wrong about your hobby scenario, but the same doesn't apply to someone who makes their only income from sponsorship

[Hidetaka]

Logitech G9 and prior was a Razer Diamondback Plasma LE.

Razer Diamondback Plasma Limited Edition is truly the king. I'll be switching from my Razer Diamondback Salamander Red as soon as I get some money ^.-

[Pillo-kun]

All my friends have had problems with theirs razor mouses, including me. We have to buy it ourselves and to pay for it, it is so unfortunate that they produce such a low quality products. i dont understand really why 4000dpi is needed cus i am most at 800 and often i go as low as 200.

[cabbspapp]

DPI is not meant as a sensitivity adjustment. What you should be doing is setting your DPI up all the way and adjusting your sensitivity from there.

Also, I've owned three Razer mice and only had one problem, which was fixed by a firmware update.

[Cyrus_the_Virus]

sidewinder all the way

[T_Flight]

DPI is not meant as a sensitivity adjustment. What you should be doing is setting your DPI up all the way and adjusting your sensitivity from there.

Also, I've owned three Razer mice and only had one problem, which was fixed by a firmware update.

Precisely. Even better is to crank it up to the max, get used to it for awhile, and then dial the sensitivity back down a hair to nail precision. Then play with acceleration a bit.

I found the statement about "low quality" hilarious! There is not a higher quality periferal on the market. The sensors are the highest precision available. The cable is the lightest I have ever seen on a mouse. It's like using a wireless mouse. It never interfere's. The connectors on them are Gold...you can't get nay higher quality than gold. That's as good as it gets.

The firmware can be reflashed, most of the Razer mice have their own onboard memory, and profiles can be loaded into the mouse...not just onto a computer so it can be used with any computer...even ones that don't have the Razer Software on them.

By holding the button on the bottom down and replugging you can erase the frimware in case of a bad flash, reflash, and be right back up an running. They are built for precision.

Like I said before, look at the specs. Pay particular attention to the specs other companies leave out. They conviently leave those out for a reason...becasue they cannot match them. The specs don't lie. Razers have been tested, and review sites agree. There is not a better performing gaming grade mouse on the market.

I'll go dig up some of that info tomorrow. It's not all about DPI. There is alot more to it than that. It's about the precision of the sensor.