Retail AMD Phenom II X4 (Deneb) OC spotted

[Zucker2k]

As soon as the i7 965 isn't a $1000+ chip and can work in socket 775 (just as PHII works backwards...) I'll be impressed.

Until then it's another new platform to upgrade to and another chip you get the privilege of paying an extra $500 to unlock the multiplier.

I know, that sucks.

yay finally someone defending defending the deneb thread's...that everyone has to try and through intel and i7 is better into.

Why dear jesus, havn't you smote these people yet?

Please come again.

[Donnie27]

I know, that sucks.

Please come again.

You're fighting a loosing battle against folks who think Intel is always wrong or never is right, never did anything good or worthwhile, lol, as was said they suck. You can't get anywhere with folks like that? No matter how RIGHT YOU ARE

[Brother Esau]

That is not what he says, that is what you make of it. I don't see anything wrong with his statement.
And change your sig man, it hurts my eyes.

SIG Stays! Buy new Eyes!

[Zucker2k]

SIG Stays! Buy new Eyes!

What's up with that though? Is that some kinda therapy?

[IvanAndreevich]

Damn, that's the worst sig I've ever seen. Wastes a lot of screen real estate (leaving little space for good posts), and as annoying as those flash ads you see everywhere.

[Drwho?]

As soon as the i7 965 isn't a $1000+ chip and can work in socket 775 (just as PHII works backwards...) I'll be impressed.

Until then it's another new platform to upgrade to and another chip you get the privilege of paying an extra $500 to unlock the multiplier.

"When I looked at Putin's eyes I saw 3 letters: K G B" ... (Senator McCain, September 2008)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAVlaIJWP-Q lol

С Рождеством!
Francois

[Brother Esau]

What's up with that though? Is that some kinda therapy?

L.S.D Therapy........It's All The Rage!

[Brother Esau]

Damn, that's the worst sig I've ever seen. Wastes a lot of screen real estate (leaving little space for good posts), and as annoying as those flash ads you see everywhere.

I'm Special ....Now stop jamming my action

[Nanometer]

Sweet vengeance.

I agree...only after what 2 years? lols

[largon]

Anyone have an idea if Deneb IHS' is soldered?
I gather Agena is soldered, am I correct?

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i7 vs PII; all I say is "6GHz"...

[gallag]

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i7 vs PII; all I say is "6GHz"...

We have to wait, What if deneb at 6ghz on ln2 only = i7-920 at4.2ghz air cooled? Not saying this is the case but claiming any kind of victory before we know is just plan silly. No?

[largon]

I was kinda referring to someone rather than something with "6GHz".

[Spacemaster]

I have a few silly question! Why compare the P2 with i7? I7 platform have better MB section (more SATA, more USB, SLI and CF fogether …). I7 is more professional platform, and it is not only for games, for the good sake i7 is made for the render software and app, right? For games any OC CPU higher than 3.8GHz (C2D, i7, p2) is good! Why Q9550 is not comparable? Why Q9450 is not comparable?

[Hornet331]

I have a few silly question! Why compare the P2 with i7? I7 platform have better MB section (more SATA, more USB, SLI and CF fogether …). I7 is more professional platform, and it is not only for games, for the good sake i7 is made for the render software and app, right? For games any OC CPU higher than 3.8GHz (C2D, i7, p2) is good! Why Q9550 is not comparable? Why Q9450 is not comparable?

Cause they have the "same name" so they must be comparable.

If we go with the "leaked marketing" slides, AMD themself compares PII with C2D (45nm). Only the hardcore amd fanboys want to compare PII with i7. (yeah flame me for that but thats what i have seen so far )

[bedlamite]

I am not even talking to the idle power of the Phenom II, I think you ll get a surprise on who is the hotter chip.

That's quite interesting, because I've noticed something pretty much different with my own eyes. New C&Q in these CPU's works really well, so I have no idea what are you talking about Maybe about PII with turned off C&Q vs i7 with turned on EIST? :P

[Hornet331]

That's quite interesting, because I've noticed something pretty much different with my own eyes. New C&Q in these CPU's works really well, so I have no idea what are you talking about Maybe about PII with turned off C&Q vs i7 with turned on EIST? :P

Well hes right, if you compare cpu/cpu only ci7 will win cause i7 needs in idle even less then then C2D.

Platform is another thing, since most Ci7 are stuffed with feature and those need power (not to mention tripple channle, 8 layer etc.).
But there are even difference between X58 boards themself, just compare the smackover board with a Asus P6T, the Smackover needs 10W less with the same cpu.

Im sure the more feature packed PII boards will consume more then those with less features. When phenom hits retail and is a good performer, i bet we will see some of this "über" boards poping up from asus/gigayte/foxconn/Msi. They will come with lots of addones and features and they will also eat power, just like on the intel platform.

[Shintai]

If people want desktop idle and load power consumption values. Wait till i5 this summer without the X58 PCIe switch northbridge. And ofcourse less features like no SAS etc, and less phases for heavy OCers. Extra phases also use more power for those not knowing it. And no, its not needed to run an i7, C2D, C2Q etc. They could be run at 2 etc instead of 16+2.

[Dumo]

Guys, just wait. No use to argue now

Probly Deneb X4 940 will be a starting point of a new thing...Just like Yonah T2600 (after FX 60 cold bug debacle)...http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...highlight=dumo

Can't wait for NO cold bugged AMD chip....Been waiting for 3 years

[Spacemaster]

Cause they have the "same name" so they must be comparable.

If we go with the "leaked marketing" slides, AMD themself compares PII with C2D (45nm). Only the hardcore amd fanboys want to compare PII with i7. (yeah flame me for that but thats what i have seen so far )

But that is not ok!

AMD is doing great job with new P2 CPUs, and with prices that they offering, I think that costumers will be pleased. But comparision with i7 is too silly. Results of the 45nm C2Q is comparable, that is for shore

I spot this link here

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=4302

Let see some test of this link

1. Super pi 1m - C2Q is better
2. Super pi 32m - C2Q is better
3. Cinbench R10 (this is interesting)
AMD P2 at 3000 MHz - 9754
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 at 2664 MHz - 10471
Intel Core i7 940 at 2930 MHz (HT on) - 13792
4. Wprime 32m
AMD P2 at 3000 MHz - 13,437
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450, Q9550 ... can not find results
Intel Core i7 940 at 2930 MHZ - 8,46
5. Wprime 1024m
... i7 - 264,475
AMD p2 - 428,625 ...

Please can some one find rest of the results ( Q9550 and Q9450 at default clock )

The point is that i7 can not compare with AMD P2 it is not same platform ...

[Caveman787]

Those have to be fake....I don't see any possible way the deneb can be as slow as or slower then agena.

Because if it takes a 3.0 deneb to lose to a 2.66 yorkie then obviously there's something wrong.

[Spacemaster]

Those have to be fake....I don't see any possible way the deneb can be as slow as or slower then agena.

Because if it takes a 3.0 deneb to lose to a 2.66 yorkie then obviously there's something wrong.

No it is not fake http://www.techpowerup.com/?79688

Cinbench 10R
http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/asroc...ebench10-9.htm

this is more interesting
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=2260139

[largon]

Spacemaster,
You forgot to use your sarcasm detector.

[Hornet331]

No it is not fake

I think theres something wrong with that scores, just look at the 3dmark 06, a P9950 @ 3,8ghz scores ~5k cpu marks... deneb on 4ghz only scores 4,5K?

I don't believe that.

[Spacemaster]

Spacemaster,
You forgot to use your sarcasm detector.

Just trying to find true...

I think theres something wrong with that scores, just look at the 3dmark 06, a P9950 @ 3,8ghz scores ~5k cpu marks... deneb on 4ghz only scores 4,5K?

I don't believe that.

4.5K is with 3GHz
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-12-23/31i.png

5.9K is with 4GHz
http://www.breakthelimit.net/coolice...3d06-17754.PNG

[Hornet331]

wobs sry looked at the wrong screens

well its near my former QX9650 @ 3,5ghz it scored 5,5K on 3dm06. (thought i t was not a good run, there are CPUS on orb that get with 3,5ghz 5,6k. )

4ghz C2D scores ~6,1-6,2k in 3dm06