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    Quote Originally Posted by gosh View Post
    Did you read this?

    • Sensitive to Sync (“cache coherency”) latency

    One of the biggest bottlenecks for Intel has been the sync latency. It is possible that once the "sync" bottleneck was removed


    In another thread (GTA IV) I informed about this and that wasn't popular because it is very hard to criticize Core 2 for the not having a L3 cache and data needs to travel through FSB which leads to bad synchronization between threads.
    I think that you will see more applications that will gain much more now because you finally can take advantage of more cores without having to think about the design of the Core 2 processors.
    About this test I don't know how it is done, what I do know is that if you run databases there are a lot of things in the computer hardware that has effect on performance.
    When it comes to servers it is no problem to talk about synchronization but on desktop's some go crazy.
    You do know that both companies you accusing of improprieties are AMD partners, right? HP sells a crap loads of AMD servers and always has. HP turned down Intel Rebates to sell AMD servers, workstations and desktops. Then still made more money than Intel only at that time Dell. So now you're saying they're lying for Xeons to make Intel look better? HP is an Intel partner but not its yes man or sucker. Through the years they've more than proven that.

    Quote Originally Posted by gosh View Post
    Trying?

    You should be suspicious if a company present numbers on their products or if the data presented are strange and with sparse information. Doesn't matter if it is AMD or Intel.
    If a company presents numbers and also is selling products that it presents numbers on, most will be suspicious.
    Don't remember you being suspecious of the AMD saying all of their first Phenoms would reach 3GHz or the 6GHz LN stuff

    Oh my gosh! Pardon the pun. Without bashing you but just disagreeing with your comments, there was always clues this was going to happening.

    Intel's FSB's was the biggest bottleneck and was Xeon's biggest draw back. The first Xeon based of the New Core architecture, Showed this going from two FSB's to 4 Cores with Two (separate dual) FSB's. It was handicapped to say the least and even the old ones would have done a lot better on an Alpha EV6 or 7 type BUS.

    Then add in all of the Core improvements and yes, nothing strange or questionable at all LOL! AMD had been winning Apache Web Srv apps tests since the first K7 showed up, yet, Opteron got spanked. Many members here KNOW point to point killz the FSB. Put the older Xeons on a Similar Alpha EV6 or 7 and it would do a lot better. But as usual, instead of listening, many folks saying this were called Intel Fans and dismissed. Now add all the things Intel did to make it do Parallel Processing better and Wa-La.

    Note, as well as it has been said all over the web that most analyst think Nehalem was made for server first then Desktop and notebooks as an afterthought. How did folks miss this being repeated over and over again.
    Last edited by Donnie27; 12-17-2008 at 12:29 PM. Reason: are Partners added!
    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman
    With the two approaches to "how" to design a processor WE are the lucky ones as we get to choose what is important to us as individuals.
    For that we should thank BOTH (AMD and Intel) companies!


    Posted by duploxxx
    I am sure JF is relaxed and smiling these days with there intended launch schedule. SNB Xeon servers on the other hand....
    Posted by gallag
    there yo go bringing intel into a amd thread again lol, if that was someone droping a dig at amd you would be crying like a girl.
    qft!

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