GeForce GTX295 Card Exposed

[l33t p1mp]

Dont worry, Im sure that they will at some point.

If it was ati, they would start busting out some fractions.

[Blacky]

OBR time to post yours I guess !!!

[Macadamia]

I dunno, this doesn't look like 9800GX2 vs 3870X2, that was a big lead and hence nVidia could sell their cards at a nice ~$600.
This one is small and unimpressive. (Dead Space doesn't work on CF, bugger lol)

When you can get a 4850X2 for $280, OC it slightly so it's about the same as a 4870X2 (see FS review), it really upsets all of the scales.

But I'll see more real scores before making a conclusion.

[Mr.BSEL]

I'm shocked to see it consumes less power than a 4870x2 according to those numbers. This means that a gtx285 can consume less than a 4870.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

honestly its surprising to me that the 295 has such a lead in every single bar on those graphs, but it is entirely possible.... but hey I think 9.1 is gonna have to be good because of this so I am happy

[OBR]

GTX 295 has very good price ... by the way!

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

GTX 295 has very good price ... by the way!

If it's around the $399 mark I will get one.

[Blacky]

GTX 295 has very good price ... by the way!

I hope! tho the only thing is that is getting me worried is the heat this beat will produce :/

[Clairvoyant129]

honestly its surprising to me that the 295 has such a lead in every single bar on those graphs, but it is entirely possible.... but hey I think 9.1 is gonna have to be good because of this so I am happy

Why is it surprising? Considering that GTX 260 SP192 in SLI is trades blows with HD4870X2

[zanzabar]

the total lead is what i think that hes talking about

[tajoh111]

Although they are NV optimized games, I have to give them a kudo for using a proper baseline.

[slapmehard]

What nvidia does is making TWO almost identical cards and sticking them together, it is not a DUAL GPU solution, it is DUAL GFX CARD solution

got it?

Ohwait i buy one card with two cores and two pcb's,what the differance they are both an easy way to gain performance just two different approach.
both seem to be equally the low tech way out for both companys to have crasy fast cards,and not spend billions in r-n-d

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

A quad core has 2 dual core chips inside one package - but you still call it ONE processor, not two

Acually the Quad has 2 x Dual core processors. I look at the picture of the 295 and it looks like a single card. How does having 2 PCB's inside make it bad. The reason why Nvidia didn't go for single PCB is that they would have to spend crapload of money on developing new design.


As the saying goes, If it isn't broke don't fix it, something like that any way.

[jasonelmore]

LOE quit being a hater. The initial bench's look nice. Performance will only improve with newer drivers. I think TRI 280 SLI and Quad 295 SLI are going to be neck and neck however. The only reason to switch would be for lower power consumption or to free up a slot. I'm not sure how well these will overclock due to the thermal dynamics of the whole thing.

[slapmehard]

I agree LOE
its just that niether ati or nv has a single core in near future that matches thier x2 cards power.
that would take lots more money and time(plus it wont be easy to match)

[gallag]

LOE, Stop crying. Does it matter how they do the job if the job gets done?

[jasonelmore]

I am not a hater, I already said the 965 will have better performance and power consumption than the radeon x2

It's just lame making two separate cards and selling them as one piece of hardware

So If I take 2 GTX280 and glue them together with epoxy glue - will this make it ONE CARD? Nvidia pretty much did exactly the same thing, only used screws instead of glue

Nvidia made the 9800GX2 that way and they made this one this way. The Die on the chip is to big to put it on one PCB. Thermodynamics just does'nt allow for such a thing when you take into account off the other stuff they need on a pcb to run this G200 Core.

Some people like dual GPU solutions and it's good nvidia did finaly awnser to the 4870X2 with the 295. I dont think it's lame or a desperate attempt but rather a attempt to reach a certain market. Why are you hating on the design of it when it worked well with the 9800GX2?

[jasonelmore]

It's not about what is good or bad, it is about using the right terms

ATi X2 is a single (dual GPU) card

the 295 is DUAL (single GPU) CARDS

just to illustrate my point, and I'm outta here, before someone collapses in nerve breakdown


Oh, and just in case someone wonders - I am an NVIDIA USER

A dual GPU card is any card with two GPU's and one PCI Express Blade/Connector. These 295's are sharing bandwith and memory as with 280's in SLI do not.

[jasonelmore]

No there's no new tech. You were basicly saying all this card is was 2 280's in SLI on one card. But in SLI with the 280's, one card's memory and bandwith is used and the other card's GPU is Processing also, but not memory. With this solution (295) the bandwidth, memory, and GPU is all shared.

[hurleybird]

What is this, the Gamespot forum? Good job on the idiot proof illustration, LOE.

[safan80]

As a former 9800gx2 owner I advise no one to buy this card.

[Fungus]

My 9800GX2 works fine and only costed $279 (EVGA) for only about 15% drop in performance compared to SLI 260's (AFAIK)... AND it works on my Intel Chipset... so it's GREAT for me!

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

It's the same thing I said, a quad is 2 dual cores, so whats your point

I look at the picture of the 295 and see two cards stuck to one cooler, and as I just said, I don't really have a problem with that, simply cuz I don't believe in SLI, and will stay a single card user until they find a better way to do multi chip GPUs

I just say this seems like the lamest and most desperate way to compete

I had a 4870x2 and it uses Xfire if you want to get technical.

[nosboost300]

289 watts!! jesus this card is a winner... definitely going to buy one!

[dan7777]

well.... i wont step up if it aint worth it lets see what the numbers are before we jump to conclusions but im more than happy with my gtx260-216 also depends very much on price to. when these cards out ?