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    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post
    There should be +60/+20/+60/+20 not "-".
    I do not have a quad, therefore GTLs 0,2 do nothing if I'm not mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codeman05 View Post
    I do not have a quad, therefore GTLs 0,2 do nothing if I'm not mistaken.
    You are mistaken my friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by xzulu View Post
    Well, back to playing around with my Q9650. Been busy with work and gaming. LOL!

    450x9....this was done about a month or 2 months ago....Just wanted to see it run stable at 450x9

    Just today, did some testing for my new 24/7 settings. 425x9....GTL Ref all Auto

    Rock stable. Played Farcry for more than 2 hours, no hangs at all...

    Thanks to CryptiK and andressergio

    Im testing it now @ 425x9 but with lower vcore and vNB voltages....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codeman05 View Post
    Guys, need some help with an e8400 (my e8500 killed itself this weekend).
    I can't even get this guy stable at 4.0GHz, and I'm pretty sure its not the CPU as I could get 3.8GHz w/ 1.325 volts and I also had hell getting this board over 450 with the e8500.

    Prime Blend fails in less than 15 mins...or the O/S freezes up.
    Temps as follows: Cpu= 56/57 | Power=41 | NB=46 | SB=42 | MB=37

    Any suggestions?
    How did your e8500 kill itself exactly? What happened? What voltages were you giving it?
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    Hi guys,
    I managed to find a pretty good Q9300, that is in my signature now (rock stable at 1.34 vcore).
    Do you have any settings for 7.5*500. With vcore 1.375 PC get in windows and I managed to make about 10minutes testing with Orthos but then PC freezes. So if you have some settings to stabilize it, i will be very greatfull.

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    What settings did you use to get into windows at 500 FSB? If you can fill out a template we can go from there and see what it can do.

    Depends a bit on how much you want to thrash it, and how it responds, some Quads will not do 500 FSB but I have not got any experience with them - some guys here do though, hopefully they can give you some advice. It will probably take 1.3 - 1.4 vFSB, 1.55 - 1.60 vPLL and 1.37 - 1.45 vcore, but you should be able to get a little more out of it without pushing it that hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptiK View Post
    What settings did you use to get into windows at 500 FSB? If you can fill out a template we can go from there and see what it can do.

    Depends a bit on how much you want to thrash it, and how it responds, some Quads will not do 500 FSB but I have not got any experience with them - some guys here do though, hopefully they can give you some advice. It will probably take 1.3 - 1.4 vFSB, 1.55 - 1.60 vPLL and 1.37 - 1.45 vcore, but you should be able to get a little more out of it without pushing it that hard.
    Almost everything is on Auto, because I really don't understand why I need so much things to twaek. On my older motherboards it was just vcore and everything goest fine Now there are so much settings and almost no explanations about what to do exactly, so I prefer to put everything on Auto and try that way.

    So here it goes:


    BIOS 1802

    Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
    Ratio CMOS Setting: 7.5
    FSB Frequency: 500
    CPU Clock Skew: Auto
    NB Clock Skew: Auto
    FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000Mhz
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
    DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual

    1st Information:

    CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
    DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
    RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
    Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
    Write Recovery Time: Auto
    Read to Precharge Time: Auto

    2nd Information:

    Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
    Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
    Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
    Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
    Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
    Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
    Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

    3rd Information:

    Write to PRE Delay: Auto
    Read to PRE Delay: Auto
    PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
    All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
    All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
    DRAM Read Training: Auto
    MEM. OC Charger: Auto
    Ai Clock Twister: Auto
    Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

    Common Performance Level: 9
    Pull-in of CHA PH1: Auto
    Pull-in of CHA PH2: Auto
    Pull-in of CHA PH3: Auto
    Pull-in of CHA PH4: Auto
    Pull-in of CHA PH5: Auto
    Pull-in of CHB PH1: Auto
    Pull-in of CHB PH2: Auto
    Pull-in of CHB PH3: Auto
    Pull-in of CHB PH4: Auto
    Pull-in of CHB PH5: Auto

    PCIE Frequency: 101

    CPU Voltage: 1.365
    CPU PLL Voltage: Auto (it is about 1.55 in Hardware monitor, I don't know what is this PLL for)
    FSB Termination Voltage: 1.325
    DRAM Voltage: 2.19
    North Bridge Voltage: 1.50
    South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
    South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

    CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
    CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
    NB GTL Reference: Auto
    DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
    DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
    North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

    CPU Configuration:

    Ratio CMOS Setting: 7.5
    C1E Support: Disabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
    Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
    Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

    Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
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    Auto settings often give components way more voltage than they need; it's best to set them manually. Even on older boards you had to set more than just vcore: vMCH/NB voltage, VTT/FSB Termination voltage and vDIMM/memory voltage were very important to set manually.

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    well ive had it with asus.i got my rma back for the second time,and this board is warped worse than the previous two.it was sent in an inside out, P5Q3 box.most likely used and repaired,or someone else replacement. this is total BS. im going to call them just to give them exactly what i think of this company right now.total crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by radaja View Post
    well ive had it with asus.i got my rma back for the second time,and this board is warped worse than the previous two.it was sent in an inside out, P5Q3 box.most likely used and repaired,or someone else replacement. this is total BS. im going to call them just to give them exactly what i think of this company right now.total crap
    Here is alittle info for you.
    Your going to have to argue this point with a supervisor not a phone drone, so insist on a supervisor or your wasting your time.

    Asus has a policy called "Non-Repair Grounds" if you send a board in with any of these issues they can refuse to repair it, guess what one of the non repair items are???
    Thats right "Board Deformed" so using there own policy ask them how on gods green earth can they send you something that they can refuse to repair themselves. If they can refuse it so can you. Also refuse to send it to the Indiana facility, Send it to Fremont California, that is a much better facility.

    http://support.asus.com/service/serv...e=EN-US&no=213

    I wish you luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post
    3. I got this problem which no body seems to have. It is random. I have some settings in BIOS I boot to windows and when I grab any window and I move it around it is choppy - in very distinct way. So kind of fast choppiness.

    Then I do restart boot again to Vista and it is smooth as silk when moving windows around. Another boot or two and again same thing... it is driving me nuts.
    Any ideas what may be causing this? Any body did see something like this on his machine>? Please do not tell me I am alone with this crap .

    Also starting from 1802 I got this really annoying 'PLEASE HIT ESCAPE' during boot and counting down seconds till automated boot. Where can I turn it off I can not find option in BIOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post
    Any ideas what may be causing this? Any body did see something like this on his machine>? Please do not tell me I am alone with this crap .

    Also starting from 1802 I got this really annoying 'PLEASE HIT ESCAPE' during boot and counting down seconds till automated boot. Where can I turn it off I can not find option in BIOS.

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    What version chipset drivers are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryptiK View Post
    How did your e8500 kill itself exactly? What happened? What voltages were you giving it?
    Not entirely sure. Just rebooted the PC Saturday night, standard procedure...and it never POSTed again. Vcore was 1.425 since day 1, never saw temps over 55c (when priming) on water. Thought it was the mobo at first, but turned out to be the CPU. It never acted odd or showed any signs of degradation prior to this. I didn't think it'd last forever at that voltage, but I figured the "death" would atleast be more exciting.

    So, I'm now using an e8400 out of my HMPC until I decide on i7 or C2Q, but currently this E8400 or mobo...are clocking pretty craptacular at the moment (see post 2372). Somewhat noticeable difference from 4.5GHz back down to 3.8GHz =/


    But I'll fiddle with it more tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post
    Any ideas what may be causing this? Any body did see something like this on his machine>? Please do not tell me I am alone with this crap .

    Also starting from 1802 I got this really annoying 'PLEASE HIT ESCAPE' during boot and counting down seconds till automated boot. Where can I turn it off I can not find option in BIOS.

    Thanks
    Seban i had once on vista when i had my VGA OC'd, this was happening on my P5K deluxe, so i came to a solution puting PCIE = 103+, later i added 2x2sticks of RAM and if using 1,25NB same problem, then upped to 1,4 and problem gone...But it was some bandwith problem or bottleneck somewhere, with the MF2 this problems are gone and my VGA OC it's impressive on lower volts also...

    I will try to find out what's causing that on BIOS 1802 wich is i'm runing

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    @grnfinger,thanks again for your help and advice i'm going to try getting ahold of someone in charge. hopefully they can help.
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    Dude, you said "someone in charge"........

    Good luck with THAT.....
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    im starting to like this board but the NB gets REAL HOT!
    and raid is a tad messed up

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    I just picked one up on a 'too good to pass' deal. still trying to decide whether to keep it or resell. Phil, is that the quad I sent you? I always knew that chip had potential if it was in something other than that crap ds3l I was crunching it in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    What version chipset drivers are you using?
    I am using newest ones from ASUS web page at least I think so.

    I still did not get my head around INTEL drivers web page it is little confusing .

    Which should I use? Can you give me number, link or download location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seban View Post
    I am using newest ones from ASUS web page at least I think so.

    I still did not get my head around INTEL drivers web page it is little confusing .

    Which should I use? Can you give me number, link or download location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Thank you. I will reinstall Vista today just to rule it out from equation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViViD View Post
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    Can you post your bios settings please ?
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    GTL reference voltages

    Hello guys,

    I'm currently tweaking my GTL reference voltages to try and get 8,5 x 475 stable with my q9550 C1. Core 0 and Core 1 are rocksolid at the moment, and Core 2 and 3 crashed instantly before I started tweaking, and now can run roughly 10 minutes of prime95 small FFTs using 1,4vCore, 1,38VTT and 1,34 NB. These are nowhere near the lowest possible to get this stable, but I'm overvolting a bit to rule out voltage problems. Now sometimes when I'm tweaking GTL reference voltages, cores I did not expect to be affected by not tinkering with their GTL reference voltages, become totally unstable (3 instant crashed in a row with prime95 small FFTs, which could run 10 minutes+ before just fine). This makes me believe I don't have the right idea of which reference voltages are used for which cores. I've seen 4 different versions:

    GTL0: Core 0,1 Data Bus
    GTL1: Core 2,3 Data Bus
    GTL2: Core 0,1 Address Bus
    GTL3: Core 2,3 Address Bus

    GTL0: Core 0,2 Data Bus
    GTL1: Core 1,3 Data Bus
    GTL2: Core 0,2 Address Bus
    GTL3: Core 1,3 Address Bus

    GTL0: Core 0,1 Data Bus
    GTL1: Core 2,3 Address Bus
    GTL2: Core 0,1 Data Bus
    GTL3: Core 2,3 Address Bus

    GTL0: Core 0,2 Data Bus
    GTL1: Core 1,3 Address Bus
    GTL2: Core 0,2 Data Bus
    GTL3: Core 1,3 Address Bus

    So which one is the real explanation on what the GTL reference voltages do for quad core CPUs on the Maximus II formula? This is very important to know, since sometimes it just feels I'm changing those settings completely in the dark, without knowing what core's stability the changes are going to affect. I would be very grateful, and I think many more people will be, if someone could tell which is the correct version.

    Musho

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    So excuse me cus' I messed an ep : is the 1804 available for duals or what ?

    Any answers for tha ram frequency Cryptic (all my modules are right there \o/)

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